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daveblank

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Hey, I fixed it for you.:bounce:

I'm not interested in a discussion about he said, she said.

Seems there is a lot of talk and negativity from your side don't tell us what can't be done, start contributing what can be done. Seems like you want to contribute well contribute something positive and useful to this thread.

I see a lot of interest out there. If you wanna help make a call and see if Matco wants to support a deal for a group buy on this forum. They can decide what they want to offer. This way your not :headscrat and you will have a couple weeks to organize a proper GB.

If it fails then your point is made. By the way large ticket items are not the way to go keep it under $200.

Good Luck and wish you the best.:thumbup:

You want negativity from me? here it is. Don't go putting words into my mouth by quoting me & adding to it. I never called you a name & I never will.

As far as me calling Matco, technically me selling outside my route is against my franchise agreement. Do you really think that I want to call them & give them a reason to put me under the microscope? I'll answer that for myself....no!

Also, like many people have already said, a group buy on what? A product needs to be identified. So, in your own words "If you wanna help", do so by identifying a product that the members want. Until then (I do mean this in a positive way) you're not going to get far.

But if all you want is a discount code to get a discount off anything that a manufacturer has...I do know one for http://www.billettechnology.com/ It might not be what you're looking for, but you haven't specified so, I'm just trying to help.
 
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You aren't going to get a deal direct from any dealers.
1. It's against the franchise agreement to sell directly over the Internet. That is why I have the links to the website in my sig.
2. The dealers margin is not as high as you think it is.
3. There are shipping costs.
4. At least for me, I am busy enough as it is running my business. I don't need to deal with managing a group order and shipping out 10-20 seperate packages for a reduced
profit margin.
5. Based on the posts I have seen from the OP I would charge him full list plus a PITA tax.
 

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wouldn't a group buy have to be initiated by the manufacturer?

i doub't if any truck brand would care since the majority of members here aren't thier primary market. mike wren has already done a group buy and a member who doesn't come here any longer offered discount's on wright.

if you really want to contact a manufacturer for a group buy try SK......they need a shot in the arm, but don't hold your breath........


now back to your regularly scheduled trolling drama.........
 
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You want negativity from me? here it is. Don't go putting words into my mouth by quoting me & adding to it. I never called you a name & I never will. .


I hope you see the irony in this statement!:rolleyes2

As far as me calling Matco, technically me selling outside my route is against my franchise agreement. Do you really think that I want to call them & give them a reason to put me under the microscope? I'll answer that for myself....no!.

Well, you should have not offered that "deal" on here. Someone might report you. Then you be in trouble!

Until then (I do mean this in a positive way) you're not going to get far. .

I posted this to ask why there were no GB's. Not to start my own group buy on here! I guess you answered my question finally. Only took like 5 posts from you.

But if all you want is a discount code to get a discount off anything that a manufacturer has...I do know one for http://www.billettechnology.com/ It might not be what you're looking for, but you haven't specified so, I'm just trying to help.

I could offer a group buy too, at a pretty good discount. But it's not tools therefore does not belong here.

But I'm just trying to help.:thumbup:
 
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Evogun

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You're right. That's why I'm not calling them & telling them. I might look stupid, but I doo have a small brain.

I have no idea what you look like, why not post a pic and we can have a poll?:bounce:

I never judge a book by it's cover. I Judge a cover by it's book!

I call a turce?:beer:
 

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He what kind of group buy can you offer some of us might be interested, just trying to stick to the OP's topic.
 
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This going nowhere, and fast.

Evogun, how can you propose a truce with first apologizing to Dave.

I found the following statement to be extremely antagonistic and disrespectful, and I can only assume that he saw it that way as well.

Seems there is a lot of talk and negativity from your side don't tell us what can't be done, start contributing what can be done. Seems like you want to contribute well contribute something positive and useful to this thread.

I see a lot of interest out there. If you wanna help make a call and see if Matco wants to support a deal for a group buy on this forum. They can decide what they want to offer. This way your not and you will have a couple weeks to organize a proper GB.

It seems to me that you're not looking for a group buy, you're looking for an easy discount, or to be part of a quantity discount.

A quantity discount spread amonst many participants would be foolish since shipping costs would more than offset the savings.

A group is best attempted when the products are not available for sale, or not available for sale in small quantities.

Foreign tools would be better purchased as a group buy. Closeout/clearanced tools would make for a good group buy. Hard to find tools, etc etc.

Also, I've seen at least one or two manufacturers initiated group buys, but they're utter bunk, and the savings were almost as false as they were with some "forum-exclusive" discounts.
 
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Evogun, how can you propose a truce with first apologizing to Dave.

First this sentence makes no sense to me?

I found the following statement to be extremely antagonistic and disrespectful, and I can only assume that he saw it that way as well.

Don't assume it makes a *** out of u and me! Also butting into are discussion is very rude so sweep your own door step first please.

It seems to me that you're not looking for a group buy, you're looking for an easy discount, or to be part of a quantity discount.

"Easy" man I'm been defending this thread for a while, now your on me as well! If I wanted a easy discount I would go to a store sale or Ebay, Craigs etc.
Not sit here trying to motivate ppl to bring a feature here that's on hundreds of forums.

A quantity discount spread amonst many participants would be foolish since shipping costs would more than offset the saving.


I think you are missing the point, I think there is a growing base of ppl here that tool manufactures aren't looking at, and should be, this can be beneficial for everyone if someone starts to get the ball rolling.

I don't know, I'm getting a lot of ppl against this idea, seems I have answered my own question why this forum has no GB.
 

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First this sentence makes no sense to me?

Don't assume it makes a *** out of u and me! Also butting into are discussion is very rude so sweep your own door step first please.

"Easy" man I'm been defending this thread for a while, now your on me as well! If I wanted a easy discount I would go to a store sale or Ebay, Craigs etc.
Not sit here trying to motivate ppl to bring a feature here that's on hundreds of forums.

I think you are missing the point, I think there is a growing base of ppl here that tool manufactures aren't looking at, and should be, this can be beneficial for everyone if someone starts to get the ball rolling.

I don't know, I'm getting a lot of ppl against this idea, seems I have answered my own question why this forum has no GB.

Well, when you come across as a jerk in a public forum, that's an open invitation for others to "**** in".

You're trying to "motivate" people into bringing a feature here? That's a different tune than when you said you were only asking about why it's here.

I posted this to ask why there were no GB's.

You're getting a lot of people "against" the idea b/c the main premise is very ill formed.

Nobody has yet to identify anything specific to inquire about. At least I'm thinking about things rather that trying to motivate others to do the thinking for me.

A general quantity buy from a domestic retailer or manufacturer? Not going to happen. In the end, distribution of the product to the group would result in a higher than retail price.

That leaves us with trying to look for a group buy item that would provide greater than marginal savings. Such an item has not been identified yet, thus no group buy. For a group buy, you need to have obvious widespread demand for a product.

Thus, it's that we are against group buys, it's just that a good idea has yet to come along. How many times must this be said before it finally sinks in with you? People cannot be motivated to start identifying potential buys at random. It has to come naturally. That is why there are no group buys.

I think you are missing the point, I think there is a growing base of ppl here that tool manufactures aren't looking at, and should be, this can be beneficial for everyone if someone starts to get the ball rolling.
Again, the direct market here means absolutely nothing to manufacturers. Larger manufacturers often cannot sell directly to consumers at lower than retail prices due to contracts with their distributors. For us to actually entice a manufacturer to consider our proposal for a group buy, the quantity would have to be larger than would be feasible in a forum setting.

I'm not against a group buy, in fact I'm all for it, but I'm approaching this realistically.
 

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To the OP:

If you hang around here long enough and keep your eyes open, you'll see that while a group buy doesn't come around too often, good deals on tools are pretty abundant. You just have to be quick or someone else will beat you to the deals!

Of course if you ask people if they would be interested in a group buy, most of them will say yes. The catch is, they're only interested if it's a tool they need or want, and around here 20 different people will want 20 different tools.

You're catching a lot of flack because you're a new member who came on here asking why there were no group buys (looked like you were here trolling for tool deals), and then you put the respected tool dealers on this board on the spot asking them to "contribute" by offering a group buy. All the dealers that regularly contribute on here are good guys that offer a wealth of knowledge about the tools they sell and don't push their wares on board members. These dealers do pass along deals to those who are interested. You just won't see them posting it up as a "group buy."

I'm always open to a good deal on something that I need or want, whether it's on ebay, GJ classifieds, or a group buy.
 

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New members need to be more aware of how to comport themselves in an already established forum, and how they should interact with longstanding and well-respected members. This is not a good example.

Period.
 
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