I have a 10 gun cabinet in my spare bedroom and will have to be using the room for our newest addition soon. I was going to move all my rifles to the wall in the back of my closest and hang them on there side like a display type way. Let me see some pics of what you have done similar or if you got a better idea?
Gun wall storage ideas?
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They will be 5' from floor and in a closet, not worried about a kid getting to them. I have kids now and never been a problem with them in the cabinet which doesn't lock.
Probably 8 but under the bed is full of her craft stuff but it may be a last resort.
TractorJeff
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I had always thought of doing something like that. We are never home so instead I got 2 gun safes that fit into a different closet. A closet that is wider than the doorway. Put one on each side wall, hang clothes, safes disappear!
rkevins
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I prefer a gun safe they are fireproof (to an extent)
Homak makes an in-wall rifle locker. They call it a 'safe' but it's more like a 'locking flush-mount steel cabinet'. I've got one in my master suite closet- it's full with 4 long guns.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Homak-Security-White-Between-The-Studs-1-32-cu-ft-Long-Wall-Safe-WS00018002/202920087
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Homak-Security-White-Between-The-Studs-1-32-cu-ft-Long-Wall-Safe-WS00018002/202920087
Even if you've never had a problem in the past, it only takes one time. Guy around here kept a loaded twelve gauge high up on his bedroom wall, thought the kid would never get to it. Well, the kid did. You can guess how it ended.
I don't lock up my guns, but if I had little ones running around I'd definitely get a safe.
ibedayank
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Seen some closets that are 10x more secure then any cheap gun safe.
Metal door frame with a good steel door and good deadbolt lock with walls made from something more then just sheetrock.. aka safe room
Metal door frame with a good steel door and good deadbolt lock with walls made from something more then just sheetrock.. aka safe room
bczygan
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Some questions...
Will the cabinet fit in the closet?
Does the closet lock?
Why do you need to have the cabinet unlocked or the guns in an unlocked closet.
Unless there was a prime necessity for doing so, I would think the standard mode would be for the guns to be locked up. Do they all have trigger locks?
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/10/second_child_this_week_shoots.html
WallyKowalski
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why not make it functional? store your guns AND have extra shelving?
check out http://www.covertcabinets.com/
check out http://www.covertcabinets.com/
why not make it functional? store your guns AND have extra shelving?
check out http://www.covertcabinets.com/
I do like that and I can always use another shelf.
Cabinet will not Fit in closet.
Why would you lock all your guns in a cabinet with trigger locks? Might aswell just get rid of them cause if someone is to break inn in the middle of the night I don't think I can tell them to hold on while I look for my keys.
Kids don't shoot guns accidentally do to not being locked up.
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What??? This has to be one of the most irresponsible gun safety statements I have ever heard/read. It doesn't matter how many firearms you have, how long you've been shooting or what you do or did for a living
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Continued from above.
Kids are curious. If you think they have the mental capacity to be responsible around firearms unsupervised, I think you may have to rethink things a little.
Kids are curious. If you think they have the mental capacity to be responsible around firearms unsupervised, I think you may have to rethink things a little.
tez929rr
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You know what? They are the OP's kids - he gets to decide. If you want to tell him you think it's a bad idea, tell him why and then shut up. Every state has their own laws on what is OK and what's not, and it's his responsibility to comply.
I don't have kids, but when kids come over I lock up the loose guns (while is no small task). But they aren't my kids - so that's the decision that I make on my own.
Aside from that, the pompous nanny statements are pretty annoying.
I don't have kids, but when kids come over I lock up the loose guns (while is no small task). But they aren't my kids - so that's the decision that I make on my own.
Aside from that, the pompous nanny statements are pretty annoying.
R6 Racer
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I'll second that! We have enough entities trying to tell us what to do without joining in the fray ourselves.
The OP will make their own decision. as do all of us.
ScottsGT
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I trusted my kids. Took them shooting and got rid of the curiosity factor. It was their friends I didn't trust. I could not be there 100% of the time to watch over things and for me it was peace of mind.
rockcrawler
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My buddy has some of these at his house. Uses the large one in the master closet and a small one by the front door.
http://tacticalwalls.com/shop/1450-concealment-cover/
http://tacticalwalls.com/shop/1450-concealment-cover/
rockcrawler
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tez929rr
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Sure. If the OP has a bolt action with the bolt completely removed and locked up, it's not safe.
Give me a break.
When I was 10 when my best friend, Sean, went over to visit another friends, John's, house. They were playing along and John pulled his fathers shotgun out of the closet pointed it at Sean and blew his head off. I lost two friends that day. It just took John about 10 more years to die violently.
For everyone's sake, lock'em up!
For everyone's sake, lock'em up!
R. Deschain
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This is the internet, open for all to see and explore and scheme in, so there is no way I will be discussing what I may own in terms of things that go bang, discuss where I would keep them in my house, or describe the manner in which they may or may not be kept safe. I will show my garage, big heavy tools, the jeep, and lots of projects, but no pictures concerning the above.
I am a little paranoid about it, but a touch of paranoia can be a good, solid thing. My advice is to be very careful with what you post.
Think about it: You post pics of your sweet 1911 collection, 5 ARs and grandpappy's BAR that he brought back from WWII. Mention that they are in the spare bedroom closet or even better in the garage. Someone flags your username and waits. Months later you mention on a different post that you are heading out of state for a weekend with the wife to look at a dream Hemi 'cuda. 6 months ago you mentioned in the electrical forum about doing POE cameras in the house, but not your garage. BAM! You get home and grandpappy's BAR among other things that go 'pew-pew' are gone and never to be seen again. I would give the same advice to a jewelry or coin collector. My $0.02 worth
I am a little paranoid about it, but a touch of paranoia can be a good, solid thing. My advice is to be very careful with what you post.
Think about it: You post pics of your sweet 1911 collection, 5 ARs and grandpappy's BAR that he brought back from WWII. Mention that they are in the spare bedroom closet or even better in the garage. Someone flags your username and waits. Months later you mention on a different post that you are heading out of state for a weekend with the wife to look at a dream Hemi 'cuda. 6 months ago you mentioned in the electrical forum about doing POE cameras in the house, but not your garage. BAM! You get home and grandpappy's BAR among other things that go 'pew-pew' are gone and never to be seen again. I would give the same advice to a jewelry or coin collector. My $0.02 worth
Playwme
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Yeah, but what about when you come home one evening, the perp is already there, and he's holding your guns when you walk in the door?
Lock em up. Get an electronic keypad lock if you feel you need fast access. Personally, I'd focus more on keeping the perp out of the house than shooting them in front of my family after they'd gotten in.
I had a friend who's dad got shot in a home invasion cause everything was in the gun room under lock and key, I've learned from others experience.
CadillacJack
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Not everyone is dumb enough to use their real name/location on the Internet.
http://drivenoutside.com/blog/
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http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2013/08/couch-bunker
Pretty cool but I bet it's hell to sit on.
Pretty cool but I bet it's hell to sit on.
PhantomEB
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I dunno, call me paranoid, but hear so many stories of stolen guns etc, my place is pretty well secure, in the normal mans way, IMHO.
When I start picking up some long arms, I plan them to be in a locked closet under the stairs in gun safe with trigger locks. Bullets in the garage locked up as per Canadian Law.
Theif doesn't know if that shotgun is loaded or not....
When I start picking up some long arms, I plan them to be in a locked closet under the stairs in gun safe with trigger locks. Bullets in the garage locked up as per Canadian Law.
Theif doesn't know if that shotgun is loaded or not....
justanengineer
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Whenever I'm at the mall early or late and see the accordion style security gates/cages over storefronts I think it would be neat to adapt a set of those to cover gun some builtin gun cabinets. Many of the mall ones recess into a wall, you could do something similar and have open display at home but good security when not.
As for the kids and guns debate, myself and most every lil boy growing up in our area had full/unlimited access to the .22LR(s) hanging over our beds by age 10. If we wanted to shoot cans or go squirrel hunting we didn't ask,, we went, and I never heard of a single issue. JMO but the folks who are keeping firearms away from kids bc kids ~ immature are doing their kids and community a serious disservice.
As for the kids and guns debate, myself and most every lil boy growing up in our area had full/unlimited access to the .22LR(s) hanging over our beds by age 10. If we wanted to shoot cans or go squirrel hunting we didn't ask,, we went, and I never heard of a single issue. JMO but the folks who are keeping firearms away from kids bc kids ~ immature are doing their kids and community a serious disservice.
dbabicky
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Exactly ! I am in the same situation !! The OP didn't ask for your opinion about Locked guns and Kids. He was just looking for storage Idea's. If you can't comment on that, STFU !! Rant over.
Now to the original question. If you have room in the back of a closet go for it. I have a false wall in the back of one of my closets. You'd never even know it's there plus the clothes in front of it act as camouflage as well. I also just have a couple "real" safes anchored to the floor. Yes, and loaded ones in every room. I can fight my way in or out from any where in my house.
No, I'm not paranoid, I don't have to be. I'm prepared.
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btdobie
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I keep only one gun loaded in my house and it is always either on me or lock in a bolted down safe that I can access quickly with a digital combination. The rest have trigger or breach locks on them so there are no accidents. I firmly believe that all guns should be locked up unless they are physically in your possession.
Agree on the hidden wall. Or build out something between three sets of studs?
Also absolutely agree with your comments on shutting TFU with the unsolicited opinions on gun safety. My layout sounds very similar to yours. Prepared is not paranoid.
Lassen Forge
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In our old house, we did the same thing when I had to absorb my dad's collection for a brief time... the closet was large enough, so we built wall racks to store the firearms, and then reinforced the entry to the closet with a bolt-lock arrangement (kind of like a safe or strongroom) on the sliding door, and an additional electromagnetic lock controlled from across the room. When the door was open and/or unlocked, it was fine, but when it was closed, it took 2 people (on opposite sides of the room) to unlock it.
We had to make some modifications to the room (of course) - we had to build a wooden "shell" wall attached to the wall studs to carry the weight, replaced the hollow sliding door with a solid one (and track and roller hardware to match), but the result was if we ever needed to secure the closet (say, we were going out of town or both going to work, or the kids came over or whatever) we could.
I always wondered what the new owners of the house thought of the closet - IIRC the RE agent marketed it as a "safe room".
I had thought for a short while of doing a "display case" gun cabinet made of something like impervious steel and bank teller glass built into a wall (kind of a new take on the old days), but even then, go away on vacation, and some scumbag would tear your house apart to get your firearms. The MOST important component of your firearm safety is that NO ONE - not your friends, neighbors, kids that will blab, etc. - knows you have firearms. What people don't know about - they won't steal.
We had to make some modifications to the room (of course) - we had to build a wooden "shell" wall attached to the wall studs to carry the weight, replaced the hollow sliding door with a solid one (and track and roller hardware to match), but the result was if we ever needed to secure the closet (say, we were going out of town or both going to work, or the kids came over or whatever) we could.
I always wondered what the new owners of the house thought of the closet - IIRC the RE agent marketed it as a "safe room".
I had thought for a short while of doing a "display case" gun cabinet made of something like impervious steel and bank teller glass built into a wall (kind of a new take on the old days), but even then, go away on vacation, and some scumbag would tear your house apart to get your firearms. The MOST important component of your firearm safety is that NO ONE - not your friends, neighbors, kids that will blab, etc. - knows you have firearms. What people don't know about - they won't steal.
mikeyr
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in the old days we trusted our kids and their friends with access to guns, now you can't trust their friends. When my daughter was born, we started keeping all ammo in the garage and the guns in pieces so a toddler could not accidentally shoot one. As she was growing up she gained limited access to my guns and I always felt safe with her and guns because she was not curious about them, she shot them with me and her mother. As she grew up and started bringing friends over who had paranoid parents and kept their kids away from guns even toy guns, they were very curious about the guns. I got a safe and put them all away.
Now everything is in a safe even though she moved out of the house long ago. I think we are beyond the times when people kept their gun collection on the wall or a display cabinet. Now too many of us, hide them and hope no one knows we even have a gun. My safe is well hidden in a part of the house, most people that visit miss it and I am the only one that knows the combination...HOWEVER everyone in my family knows that our attorney has the combination of the safe in our will. That is important, that when you get a safe either you let many people know the combo or you make sure that they will get the combo when you are gone, in my case my wife didn't care for the combo that is why she does not have it. Oh, and one handgun is not in the safe but it is in a lockbox bolted to the floor by the bed...
Now everything is in a safe even though she moved out of the house long ago. I think we are beyond the times when people kept their gun collection on the wall or a display cabinet. Now too many of us, hide them and hope no one knows we even have a gun. My safe is well hidden in a part of the house, most people that visit miss it and I am the only one that knows the combination...HOWEVER everyone in my family knows that our attorney has the combination of the safe in our will. That is important, that when you get a safe either you let many people know the combo or you make sure that they will get the combo when you are gone, in my case my wife didn't care for the combo that is why she does not have it. Oh, and one handgun is not in the safe but it is in a lockbox bolted to the floor by the bed...
Lassen Forge
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We were raised with guns, with hunting, with shooting sports, from the ripe old age of 5 when we graduated from a BB rifle to a 22. Now kids are arrested by brainwashed flock-followers for pointing at something, and their hand makes the "shape of an evil gun". Emphasizing the almost religious and ******** charged attitude kids feel about guns.
The sad result of a media-led population where you can be indoctrinated that "guns are an evil, nasty, horrible thing" and why kids, when they get one, are likely not to know how to handle one responsibly or have some icon fantasy about them, so when they get their hands on one they do great and grievous damage... because it's not a gun or a tool, it's a "worshipful mysterious power stick of the deities, and, gee, I get to TOUCH it (heart racing sense of daring added)".
And of course - if they're beat up in school, or a social outcast, or didn't get that A they thought they deserved, or Janey went out with Billy instead of them, or mom cheated them out of their $50 dollar allowance this week (and, horrors, took away their smartphone for mouthing off about it), then EVERYONE is against them, and, well... They can get a Deity-stick of power and smite them like they deserve... and THEN they'll be feared and respected...
And the media... gets to run more "Seee, we told you, all guns are EVIL" and even presidential candidates campaign how they're going to "rid our nation of these evil sticks-o'-satanic-evil" when WE THE SHEEPLE and the politicians who used it to gain power and office deliberately created this problem... and the nuts bought into it and spread it.
Sorry... getting off my soapbox now...
you can argue all you want about safety, kids, training, whatever. but guns, any guns, only need to be in one place, a gun safe, put the gun safe in the closet so it cant be seen, and be done with it. your kid might be safe but what about his play mates.
tez929rr
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Thank you, nanny brownbagg.
Maybe you could try actually answering the question posed in the OP, rather than taking the opportunity to deliver the unwanted lecture.
No, that would be too hard.
Basskiller
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Whoa thread revival and it's popping fireworks 
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