Gutter Advice Needed

[itstippy]

The corner where the eve of the house meets with the roof of the front porch leaves a 10" gap with no gutter. It's surprising how much water comes off this 10" section of gutterless roofline. It splashes onto the driveway, digging a hole in the asphalt and making treacherous ice in winter months. We're getting a new concrete driveway this Fall and I'm motivated to finally fix the problem. The question is, how? Any ingenious ideas? Is there some way to do it without another downspout, by tieing into the exiting main gutter? I'm stuck.

 

[nbpt100]

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[ard]

Upload them to this site- (instead of finding a new hosting service). It will be easier if you want a fast answer...

 

[ddawg16]

Good ol' photobucket and their free photo hosting service......until you reference them

 

[itstippy]

Sorry. Photobucket CEO must have lost his mind. Let's try TinyPic:

Ignore the dates on the photos - I took them 5 minutes ago. My camera is a mess.

 

[firebirdparts]

I have a stagger just like that on my shop. My solution was just to put a little deflector up there to kick the water over. It's not that attractive. My deflector is a piece of aluminum facia board cover, simply laying face down and nailed to the roof under a shingle. It's angled so that it's downhill in the direction I want the water to go, of course. If that's not clear I could take a picture.

 

[firebirdparts]

Well maybe this will suffice instead. This kicks water two directions but otherwise similar.

 

[tjdux]

I dont see why couldn't buy a small peice of gutter and a downspout. Its odd that it didnt get built full length.

You could just extend the roof but thats a lot of work. Or use the diverter mentioned above.

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[captain14]

I have seen that methods used above doorways where they is no porch or overhang
That would be the easiest to install

It's a shame they just didn't build that roof ladder just a little longer to meet up with the front gutter. I'm sure during snow and ice season you have a good collection of that on the driveway too.

If you look in the area by the aluminum /gutter material at your home supply store yiu can find something that will work.

Ask This Old House actually did a project like that for someone. Maybe google it?


Much more work would be to add two corner sections of gutter and tie into front. It looks like like tjdux beat me to to.

 

[ard]

I'd do 2 or three small deflectors.

OR, two corners and run gutter up, then across that section. Not an additional downspout.

 

[JRC3]

https://www.menards.com/main/buildi...38-c-5817.htm?tid=-8628717040466722375&ipos=1

Look around and you can probably find it in brown or grey.

 

[ilovevocs]

Find a someone who knows how hand cut a miter in k style gutter and extend it up and around.

A deflector may give you issues.

Remember shingled roofs are hydrokinetic systems. Gravity and overlap keeps them waterpoof.

Obstructing or Impending the flow of water off the roof is bound to create issues.

IN some climate zones you may be able to pull it off, however, it's still theoretically flawed approach.

 

[ddawg16]

Find a someone who knows how hand cut a miter in k style gutter and extend it up and around.

A deflector may give you issues.

Remember shingled roofs are hydrokinetic systems. Gravity and overlap keeps them waterpoof.

Obstructing or Impending the flow of water off the roof is bound to create issues.

IN some climate zones you may be able to pull it off, however, it's still theoretically flawed approach.

I agree.

If it was me, I'd be extending the roof so as to fill in that section....but that is me and it's most likely not worth the effort.

Filling that in with gutter is a pretty easy task. You can buy what you need at the big box store.

You can pop off the end cap and join into the existing gutter, or add a rain chain and let the water go down gently.

 

[ard]

Im rethinking deflectors in a freezing climate...

Oh, the 'why'd they do that??" question.... wanna bet it was based on lumber lengths on hand? Whats the width of that porch? 16ft 4inches?

 

[rburke65]

Extend the gutter to pick up the 10" roof section. You should be able to tie that into the porch gutter.

 

[johnnyradiant]

The devil is in the details and whoever built the roof line that way for 10" was a devil and whoever got the gutter job was the devils devilish brother.

Water coming off of there will also erode your concrete in little time, so if the timing of a permanent fix comes after the cement put something from a plastic sheet to a scrap of plywood will you get it fixed.

Some ell shaped flashing on a angle like that dbl angeled one above will work wonders and it doesn't need to be large or thick either for water. Snow will dictate gauge and height.

 

[matt_i]

I might try this idea.

First, gutter the short piece above.

Next, I would propose to bend a J-shape in the heavier "gutter stock", its sort of like a trim coil but about .010" thicker.

The J-shape is your water connector. It would get water from a hole bored thru the left end of the short horizontal piece. It would send water thru a slot cut in the back of the existing gutter (may have to be extended about 5"). It doesn't need to be as deep as the gutter, I would think 1" deep x 2" wide would be plenty of capacity. In a gulley-washer rain it would simply overflow anyway and who cares at that point. But should be just fine to handle those pesky drips.

Could also go more advanced with the folding and make it look like an "L shape viewed from the top to dump into a slot cut in the endcap of the existing gutter (that would eliminate the need to extend it)

Depends on how much you want to customize and what bending capabilities are at your disposal

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Run the 10" gutter plus gutter from the top 10" to the bottom gutter...so an L shape. The sloped gutter sits on top of the bottom gutter. Or if you have the money have the gutter guys do it all one piece with the sloped gutter integrated.

 

[itstippy]

Thanks, guys. Good advice from all. I'll fix this and life will finally be perfect!