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ClearWaterMS

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Short version: how should I run a gutter down spout so that it isn't in the way.

My garage is detached from the house to the north. My garage is located only 4' away and runs parallel to the house.

Here is an image


The walkway between the two is the only access to the back door which is the primary entrance for access to the house.

When you get to the back of the house, you can see the entry door (with the farm house light over it) in this picture



The garage has concrete on all 4 sides. The necessity of a gutter is for the slippery condition that is created when snow melts off of the garage and lands on the concrete causing a freezing condition. Every location I conceive for a downspout has the water either going across the pathway taken to/from the main entrance to the house. If I have it exit the front and have the water run down the driveway, it will create a slippery driveway which would be dangerous for guests even when the use the front door. If I have it exit the back, I either have it long enough that it creates a tripping hazard to the man door, or i leave it short enough that it deposits the melting water onto the concrete and causes a slippery situation.

Is there something that I can put over the door that isn't hideously ugly that would divert the water to the other side of the door towards the garbage cans and into the yard?
 
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Two things. Add a cover over your door like this:


One day and $700.

Second, run your downspouts through the concrete and into drains that come out in a more convenient location.


 

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Re: back of garage...can you run the downspout off of the gutter parallel (horizontally) to the ground and then down to the slab so it exits on the right of the door as we are looking at it in the picture?
 

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Run a down spout horizontally from the garage to the house down spout at the front & use that to move the run off. I'd suggest burying under the walk at the back, but since you're talking about snow melt I assume it would freeze under the walk & cause the same mess.
 

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What about going across the back of the garage to the other side with the downspout. It won't be the most attractive thing but it will keep the water away. Our perhaps I the other side of the garage door at least.

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In your1st photo of the front of the house, run the right side of garage downspout across the 4 foot span connect to the house downspout.
 

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You mean across the ground? I don't think that will work. That path is the primary path between the front of the house and back of the house. Putting it across the path will create a tripping hazard.

No he means right off the bottom of the gutter across to the house. You would walk under it.
 
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ClearWaterMS

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Nice house and garage.

Thank you; we moved here last year and the garage was a selling point of the home but it is older and is functional but not ideal for how I use it. I plan to start a new thread in the future on how to go about upgrading it.
 
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ClearWaterMS

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No he means right off the bottom of the gutter across to the house. You would walk under it.

im going to guess a gutter that floats between two buildings 8' in the air that will be seen from the street will not meet the wife code. Unless somebody has pictures where this is done regularly or how we can dress it up... i suspect she would tell me to cut open the concrete and bury PVC before we do that.
 
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ClearWaterMS

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What about going across the back of the garage to the other side with the downspout. It won't be the most attractive thing but it will keep the water away. Our perhaps I the other side of the garage door at least.

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that is the best solution I have come up with up to this point. I just think it would look really tacky snaking around the door and running along the siding.
 

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Hey, another Lombard, IL member! Didn't think I'd see that here lol. Great looking property, too. Looking forward to your upcoming thread about garage plans. Sorry I don't have much to offer with regard to your current dilemma.
 

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Is that a gate to the left of the man door on the rear of the garage? What if you ran the downspout there and cut out the concrete to the left of the door and run pvc under the sidewalk out to the yard, where you could have a pop-up? Less digging and cutting if it would work.
 
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ClearWaterMS

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Hey, another Lombard, IL member! Didn't think I'd see that here lol. Great looking property, too. Looking forward to your upcoming thread about garage plans. Sorry I don't have much to offer with regard to your current dilemma.

yeah; we recently just moved here from Westchester. We are in the north west corner of town right off the prairie path.
 
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ClearWaterMS

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Is that a gate to the left of the man door on the rear of the garage? What if you ran the downspout there and cut out the concrete to the left of the door and run pvc under the sidewalk out to the yard, where you could have a pop-up? Less digging and cutting if it would work.

those pictures are old; that gate is gone. The north side of the garage has a driveway that goes the full length of the garage (so it would be 10' of concrete)
 

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im going to guess a gutter that floats between two buildings 8' in the air that will be seen from the street will not meet the wife code. Unless somebody has pictures where this is done regularly or how we can dress it up... i suspect she would tell me to cut open the concrete and bury PVC before we do that.

Why not disguise it with a trellis and a planter. Use a metal 8" tall trellis to disguise the cross pipe, and add some nice vines to go across the trellis from a hanging plant.

If that wont fly, open the wallet and do what I did above.
 

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if you are concerned about running it along the back of the garage you could run 4" pvc through the garage wall then through the garage along the ceiling and out the opposite wall and down to the ground with downspout
 

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Why not disguise it with a trellis and a planter. Use a metal 8" tall trellis to disguise the cross pipe, and add some nice vines to go across the trellis from a hanging plant.

If that wont fly, open the wallet and do what I did above.
The idea was across the walk but at roof level just enough to get drainage. The above is an inexpensive way to hide it, this could be a $100-200 fix for now then decide if cutting concrete is something you want to do.
 

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Run your leaders in the rear of the Garage.

This.

Sawcut the concrete walkway and tie in to whatever perimeter drainage the others are going in to. If they just go to splash blocks do the same but run them out in to the yard to get the water away from the garage. A little bit of concrete work to patch and it'll look like it was meant to be instead of some of the other abominations being proposed.

Here is another idea for patching if water is always an issue here.
sidewalk-channel-300x300.png
 
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ClearWaterMS

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This.

Sawcut the concrete walkway and tie in to whatever perimeter drainage the others are going in to. If they just go to splash blocks do the same but run them out in to the yard to get the water away from the garage. A little bit of concrete work to patch and it'll look like it was meant to be instead of some of the other abominations being proposed.

Here is another idea for patching if water is always an issue here.
sidewalk-channel-300x300.png

Homer, the bottom link; is that a trench drain? that is an interesting idea because that is something I could install /w a concrete saw and not have too much repairs to do...
 
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