Hammer time!
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d42jeep
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The Plomb needs to head to Albany. 
The hammer marked Standard was made by Stanley. They were a price line.
-Don
The hammer marked Standard was made by Stanley. They were a price line.
-Don
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four.cycle
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so... that little one would be a 306B then.
Roy claimed that Plomb hammer head almost the same minute I posted it!
I'm going back over there tomorrow to pick up some arrowheads... I may dig around a bit more. Hard to believe how much stuff they have that's just jammed into every nook and cranny, or just laying around on the ground out in the rain.
Roy claimed that Plomb hammer head almost the same minute I posted it!
I'm going back over there tomorrow to pick up some arrowheads... I may dig around a bit more. Hard to believe how much stuff they have that's just jammed into every nook and cranny, or just laying around on the ground out in the rain.
Oregon rock crusher
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Here is an interesting hammer I found at a coastal junk...I mean antique shop. I first spotted it a month or so ago but as it was marked down about 40% last week, I picked it up. We were at the coast to see the King tides but the ocean was flat as it gets so we went shop hopping instead. Probably a smith made job. I don't think I've ever seen a double ball hammer quite like this one. Probably for metal shaping work, it may come in handy someday. No marks found on it. Ed.
four.cycle
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tinners hammer maybe? 
neophyte
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Almost certainly made for metalsmithing.Here is an interesting hammer I found at a coastal junk...I mean antique shop. I first spotted it a month or so ago but as it was marked down about 40% last week, I picked it up. We were at the coast to see the King tides but the ocean was flat as it gets so we went shop hopping instead. Probably a smith made job. I don't think I've ever seen a double ball hammer quite like this one. Probably for metal shaping work, it may come in handy someday. No marks found on it. Ed.
Picard and MOB Peddinghaus still manufacture similar double round peen hammers.
Picard used the term “Embossing Hammer”.
The Picard designs are more symmetrical with regards to head length from the handle, but that could vary based on manufacture, or possibly use is being used to hammer from the inside, were a shorter or longer hammer might be necessary for access.
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Oregon rock crusher
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Thanks for that info neo. I have found several examples of similar hammers from the 1800's as well. Here is a picture where the center hammer has similarities. Just not quite as well defined "balls". Metal shaping has a place in many trades. Ed.
Patrickm82
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I grabbed this nice Plomb 1428 body hammer this afternoon from market place. Original handle in very good condition still nice and tight. Not bad for $15
jeffmoss26
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dutchgray
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Estwing makes loads of them at 16" long, the 22oz, 24oz, 28oz and 30oz, I'm not sure if they do a long version of the 20oz.
There's also a 25oz cali framer style head which is 18" long, which imo is best avoided and they really should do a shorter version of it.
Bryan Burns
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Yellow hammer not yellow. Anyone know anything about this brand?
Bryan Burns
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Flat sided 5 oz. ball peen. Very flat on both sides. Was this most probably done with a mill? I assume it would be difficult to get this flat with an angle grinder. Is the red epoxy in the head indicative of a Plumb? I know I've seen this red around before.
Bryan Burns
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Another user (not me) modified hammer. Peen no longer ball shaped.
Almost certainly Plumb IMOFlat sided 5 oz. ball peen. Very flat on both sides. Was this most probably done with a mill? I assume it would be difficult to get this flat with an angle grinder. Is the red epoxy in the head indicative of a Plumb? I know I've seen this red around before.
Probably done on a belt or disc sander.
Cool finds Bryan!
RTM
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Cripe
I’ve googled, deleting or excluding everything that wasn’t a real hammer.
"yellow hammer" -bird -drink -cocktail -coral -florist -garden -birds "claw hammer" -"yellow handle"
Amazing how much **** bears that name that isn’t really a hammer, and how many “stock” photo companies are selling images of hammers that aren’t yellow, but have a yellow handle that they lump together.
There is some Roll Tide post game cheer that is tied to the term Yellow Hammer, maybe some alumnae made it, but otherwise, I got NOTHING USEFUL.
Bryan Burns
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Beerhippie
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The long-handle is for stand-up framing. If you don't know what that is, you don't need a long-handled hammer.
Yellow hammer not yellow. Anyone know anything about this brand?
Well, Yellow Hammer is a type of woodpecker--Yellow-Shafted Flicker--found east of the Rockies.
I can see naming a hammer after a woodpecker--especially that Yella' Hammer that's pounding on the side of the house at 5AM again, making you wish you had a hammer to throw at him.
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Is anything known about this tool line? I have a scratch awl under the same name -"Red Diamond" with the same font.Never heard of Red Diamond tools.
At the same location found a pliers as well as this hammer.
It was just "too pretty" not to bring home.
RTM
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Maybe this trademark
Masback incorporated, filed 1948, in use since 1930?
Official Gazette of the United States Patent Office
books.google.com
Not in ITCL, but a catalog available on ebay.
Vintage Masback Incorporated Full Tool Catalog 1952 Good - Josephmarc.com
Vintage Vintage Masback Incorporated Full Tool Catalog 1952 Good for sale
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Masback Hardware
Walter Grutchfield Photographer, fine art photographs, landscapes, cityscapes, fire hydrants
www.waltergrutchfield.net
I suspect they are a distributor brand, like Keen Kutter, Stiletto, Craftsman, etc, slapped on a tool made by others.
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four.cycle
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RE: Masback / "Red Diamond"
Definitely a registered private-label brand of Masback Hardware Co., Inc.
The "Est. 1875" claim on the front of that catalog is a rather dubious claim - if you read the text of that Grutchfield page, it looks like they were not in operation prior to 1936, although three different trademark documents claim first use of Nov 6 1930.
I went through everything "Masback", but the only thing I have here is mention of a little wrench set in a 1936 catalog.
Masback / Masback Hardware Co. Inc., 324-344 Hudson St., New York, NY / ca. 1936-1979 / hardware and tool wholesale distributor / "Red Diamond" private label brand / TM 561840 Jan 24 1950 first use Nov 6 1930 & TM 561843 Jul 21 1948 first use Nov 6 1930 / https://www.waltergrutchfield.net/masback.htm /
Definitely a registered private-label brand of Masback Hardware Co., Inc.
The "Est. 1875" claim on the front of that catalog is a rather dubious claim - if you read the text of that Grutchfield page, it looks like they were not in operation prior to 1936, although three different trademark documents claim first use of Nov 6 1930.
I went through everything "Masback", but the only thing I have here is mention of a little wrench set in a 1936 catalog.
Masback / Masback Hardware Co. Inc., 324-344 Hudson St., New York, NY / ca. 1936-1979 / hardware and tool wholesale distributor / "Red Diamond" private label brand / TM 561840 Jan 24 1950 first use Nov 6 1930 & TM 561843 Jul 21 1948 first use Nov 6 1930 / https://www.waltergrutchfield.net/masback.htm /
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four.cycle
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The Audubon society and ornithologists agreed to rename both the Yellow-Shafted Flicker and the Red-Shafted Flicker (as well as the Gilded Flicker) to "Common Flicker" (Colaptes auratus) years ago.
I have nothing that matches that.
Check Wolfgang's site - that hammer may well be European.
Beerhippie
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Yes, because the Red and Yellow freely interbreed where their ranges overlap, hence the Gilded.
But did they consult with me first? Nope, they sure didn't, so I feel free to ignore their arbitrary name changes. I've been birding since I was a teen in the '70s and have done a fair amount of field work in various fields of ornithology. When I look at a recent bird book, it takes me a while just to figure out that all these "new" birds are actually familiar species with new names.
Botany is much, much worse.... Life was so much simpler before genomics screwed everything up.
four.cycle
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^ Actually it's kind of funny digging out my field guide and reading that, because I've been calling it a "Northern Flicker" for over 30 years now..... and now I'm not sure where that came from. Might have been the local Audubon chapter.
(You did know that Tacoma, Washington is home to one of the largest Audubon society chapters on the planet, right? )
I don't mind so much the name changes on botanical species, but I do wish they'd make up their damn minds as to what they want to call the Himalaya Blackberry. Is it Rubus procerus or is it R. Discolor this week? Or maybe R. armeniacus ?
(You did know that Tacoma, Washington is home to one of the largest Audubon society chapters on the planet, right?
)I don't mind so much the name changes on botanical species, but I do wish they'd make up their damn minds as to what they want to call the Himalaya Blackberry. Is it Rubus procerus or is it R. Discolor this week? Or maybe R. armeniacus ?
Things often get screwed up by the "dissertations" by "experts" working on getting their PHD. then everyone starts kowtowing to the "new expert" in the field, and changing **** without verifying...
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four.cycle
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Four little hammers I finally got finished with.
L to R:
Small claw hammer that needed some cleaning up.
4 ounce Stanley "Standard" ball pein re-handled with a MAC handle from @d42jeep.
8 ounce no-name ball pein re-handled thanks to @d42jeep
"Occident" (private label brand of Seattle Hardware Co.) tack hammer re-handled thanks again to @d42jeep!
Thanks Don!
** ACE Hardware has the itty-bitty-teeny-tiny wedges in the HILLMAN bins in bulk - 45 cents a pop. You have to hunt to find them.
jeffmoss26
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Interesting claw hammer followed me home from a friend’s ongoing cleanout.
At first, I was inclined to think it said “Fussstahl,” but other tool examples stamped “Gussstahl” and a more logical meaning of cast steel versus foot steel persuaded me otherwise. I am not certain about “28” but did find a lookalike “22” on Worthpoint. It’s not grams or kilograms, not ounces, either. The head is about 16oz, the entire hammer is 22oz.
A possible forge mark or brand stamp looks a bit like a star-of-david, more like a valentine superimposed on an equilateral triangle, with possible letters inside. The other (Worthpoint) hammer I saw had something more like a toothed gear.
Beerhippie
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I'm betting that is an older version of a rock-climbers piton hammer. Primarily used to install and remove pitons--kind of big, flat nails driven into cracks in the rock to work as anchor points.
Interesting claw hammer followed me home from a friend’s ongoing cleanout.
At first, I was inclined to think it said “Fussstahl,” but other tool examples stamped “Gussstahl” and a more logical meaning of cast steel versus foot steel persuaded me otherwise. I am not certain about “28” but did find a lookalike “22” on Worthpoint. It’s not grams or kilograms, not ounces, either. The head is about 16oz, the entire hammer is 22oz.
A possible forge mark or brand stamp looks a bit like a star-of-david, more like a valentine superimposed on an equilateral triangle, with possible letters inside. The other (Worthpoint) hammer I saw had something more like a toothed gear.
Here's a current version:
I can see the claws coming in handy.
I don’t think it was ever anything other than a claw hammer. This one on Worthpoint is very similar, though better condition.
The attachment system is also present on some other types of heads.
The attachment system is also present on some other types of heads.
RTM
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Beerhippie
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Now, did Herr Wallbrecher make mountaineering equipment? Or was this hammer meant for brechen walls? Did it help brech the Berlin Wall?
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Thank you! I saw the P, but had thought H or M, not W. There are a lot more axe and hatchet heads identified P.Wallbrecher on the web than hammer heads.
Beerhippie
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Love Mountain is, of course, a ski area. Their logo is a three-peak mountain in a heart. So close....
four.cycle
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Wallbrecher / Peter Wallbrecher, Cronenberg, Germany / est. 1825 / https://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/wallbrecher_peter.phtml / see Walkron Werkzeuge Werner Wallbrecher GmbH & Co. KG /
Peter Wallbrecher axtkopf only $149 + shipping
Looks like Peter may have had a brother Max who was also making tools in Cronenberg/Wuppertal
Peter Wallbrecher axtkopf only $149 + shipping
Looks like Peter may have had a brother Max who was also making tools in Cronenberg/Wuppertal
That VIDAR VALI is interesting; not words, but names, and not even German names but Norse. or Icelandic, I think. Two sons of Odin by two different jötnar, and both specialized in deadly revenge.