Hammer time!
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trytochaseme
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Its actually a 36" long ratchet. The head is a replaceable Torque wrench head and yes I did also make the sockets
That is so cool. Heirloom level awesome.
trytochaseme
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haha thanks man appreciate it! If I have kids one day I would love to pass them down
Ton ton
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Thanks for sharing.
Nice work
Do tell, are the brass/rubber tips a thread in style.
Nevermind, I just saw your link at the bottom of your post "I make things in this thread".
YOU got Talent!
trytochaseme!!!
Do tell, are the brass/rubber tips a thread in style.
Nevermind, I just saw your link at the bottom of your post "I make things in this thread".
YOU got Talent!
four.cycle
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Okay, hammer experts.... this one is above my pay grade:
I've replaced lots of handles on regular-sized hammers, axes, mauls, mattocks, froes, but never on anything this small.
This is the original handle for this little upholstery hammer. The head was horribly loose so I pulled it off, gussied up the handle a bit, and wire-wheeled the rust off the head (which still needs a bit of work on the face - looks like somebody tried to chisel cement with it.)
I do not recall what sort of wedge came out of it.
I found only large (axe-sized) hardwood wedges up at ACE Hardware, a few of which I already have in a drawer in the garage (right next to the spare wicks for kerosene lamps - go figure.) I bought one of each of the smallest size steel wedges they had (shown below.)
I'm concerned that driving either of those wedges down into this handle is going to end badly.
What am I doing wrong? What do I put this back together with?
I've replaced lots of handles on regular-sized hammers, axes, mauls, mattocks, froes, but never on anything this small.
This is the original handle for this little upholstery hammer. The head was horribly loose so I pulled it off, gussied up the handle a bit, and wire-wheeled the rust off the head (which still needs a bit of work on the face - looks like somebody tried to chisel cement with it.)
I do not recall what sort of wedge came out of it.
I found only large (axe-sized) hardwood wedges up at ACE Hardware, a few of which I already have in a drawer in the garage (right next to the spare wicks for kerosene lamps - go figure.) I bought one of each of the smallest size steel wedges they had (shown below.)
I'm concerned that driving either of those wedges down into this handle is going to end badly.
What am I doing wrong? What do I put this back together with?
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KnurledNut
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Looks like it needs a wood wedge first.
Yes wood wedge, and If I were you, make it yourself to fit the taper of the current slot - I'd start with a scrap of hardwood, far longer than you need (handle...), and work it against a belt or disc sander. ( My hand held belt sander spends most of it's life in my vise...)
four.cycle
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^ That makes sense. I have a great belt sander and lots of hardwood scraps. So.... do I still use the steel wedge? Or.... ?
KnurledNut
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Those metal wedges are too long and will split the handle. I would consider shortening and re-profiling the smaller one, probably in half, and narrow the width a third or so, and install it like that.
four.cycle
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^ that is exactly what i was concerned about - splitting the handle.
I saw some redesigned wedges here somewhere - I believe they were German made - but I do not recall what thread or when.
I can cut these down on a grinder though - easy peasy.
thank you gentlemen!
I saw some redesigned wedges here somewhere - I believe they were German made - but I do not recall what thread or when.
I can cut these down on a grinder though - easy peasy.
thank you gentlemen!
Ton ton
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The same to you, outlawmws.
I recently made this brass hammer. I've been dragging around a 36"x2" brass shaft for 50 years, yes that's right 50 YEARS and finally made something with it. I used a 6" length for the head and a 17" length of rebar for the handle. I've always liked seeing rebar used for things. The 1 1/8" thick rebar made it too heavy so I turned the stem down to 5/8" and then drilled out the bottom of the handle to get the weight down and prefect the overall balance. I don't have the weight etc with me so I can't include that info now. I made it extra long (6" head) thinking if it was too heavy I could cut 1/2" or more off each end and I may do so after a while. I may just make another lighter one too.
Private Lugnutz
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Grain of salt and all that, Arne, but I have never seen a script Plumb anchor brand logo hammer in the wild. That's a bit of a treasure.
How about a 13 oz
Vaughan 13 oz Fiberglass Curved Claw Hammer (G13F)
Vaughan 13 oz Fiberglass Curved Claw Hammer (G13F)
is the second vertical handle from the left attache to the head? it looks like a nail hammer handle?
Good layout for hammers in a drawer, I use something similar for my smalls in the inside bench box:
Yes, the box in the upper left is full of replacement tips. I have some smaller hammers, but these I use a lot...
Good layout for hammers in a drawer, I use something similar for my smalls in the inside bench box:
Yes, the box in the upper left is full of replacement tips. I have some smaller hammers, but these I use a lot...
Thanks Lugz-
Aside from this thread, what is the correct brand thread to share to?
Private Lugnutz
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As far as I know, we don't have a thread dedicated exclusively to Fayette R. Plumb tools down on the Vintage board. Antique and vintage Plumb hammers mainly show up here, axes and hatchets on the 'Axes' thread. The name shows up much more frequently than the tools on Plomb and Plomb-related threads, due, as your initial post alludes, to the infamous lawsuit.
By far the overwhelming majority of the tools here on GJ have the "[PLUMB]" logo. They sold a lot of ball-pein hammers and general purposes hatchets to the U.S. Army during WWII, a lot of the same style hatchets to the Boy Scouts of America in the 1950's and later, and a lot of axes to Bell and forestry services, all bearing that logo. I think the older logos are much rarer.
By far the overwhelming majority of the tools here on GJ have the "[PLUMB]" logo. They sold a lot of ball-pein hammers and general purposes hatchets to the U.S. Army during WWII, a lot of the same style hatchets to the Boy Scouts of America in the 1950's and later, and a lot of axes to Bell and forestry services, all bearing that logo. I think the older logos are much rarer.
Private Lugnutz
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@Arne73
Are you familiar with Yesteryears Tools?. They are primarily an axe site and they do a really cool job of history and plastering their pages with logos, but they're not very good with attributing dates to them. Their Plumb page states that the anchor logo may have lasted into the 1930's, but I am skeptical. If you look on IA/ITCL, there is a Plumb catalog excerpt dated 1925 showing an array of hammers and axes, and none of them have the anchor logo, all of them have the name in a box logo. All the excerpts of Plumb catalogs pages showing tools with the anchor logo are from the late 1890's through the 'Teens.
Again, I am no Plumb expert, but I think you may have an early hammer there.
Are you familiar with Yesteryears Tools?. They are primarily an axe site and they do a really cool job of history and plastering their pages with logos, but they're not very good with attributing dates to them. Their Plumb page states that the anchor logo may have lasted into the 1930's, but I am skeptical. If you look on IA/ITCL, there is a Plumb catalog excerpt dated 1925 showing an array of hammers and axes, and none of them have the anchor logo, all of them have the name in a box logo. All the excerpts of Plumb catalogs pages showing tools with the anchor logo are from the late 1890's through the 'Teens.
Again, I am no Plumb expert, but I think you may have an early hammer there.
Yes, that plumb script is different. I don't recall ever seeing one but I'm no expert so can't comment further.
I picked up a Dunlap and Cheney Claw hammer recently. The Cheney has the nail holder and I have another one so it's the Dunlap that I'm curious about. It looks old. The steel handle is about 1/8" thick where it goes into the handle. It extends down to about 2" from the bottom of the handle.
I picked up a Dunlap and Cheney Claw hammer recently. The Cheney has the nail holder and I have another one so it's the Dunlap that I'm curious about. It looks old. The steel handle is about 1/8" thick where it goes into the handle. It extends down to about 2" from the bottom of the handle.
Ton ton
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Those claw hammers do look unique.Yes, that plumb script is different. I don't recall ever seeing one but I'm no expert so can't comment further.
I picked up a Dunlap and Cheney Claw hammer recently. The Cheney has the nail holder and I have another one so it's the Dunlap that I'm curious about. It looks old. The steel handle is about 1/8" thick where it goes into the handle. It extends down to about 2" from the bottom of the handle.
Yes, that plumb script is different. I don't recall ever seeing one but I'm no expert so can't comment further.
I picked up a Dunlap and Cheney Claw hammer recently. The Cheney has the nail holder and I have another one so it's the Dunlap that I'm curious about. It looks old. The steel handle is about 1/8" thick where it goes into the handle. It extends down to about 2" from the bottom of the handle.
That Dunlap hammer & its handle say "Bridgeport Hardware" to me — it looks like my BHM hatchet (below). (Image from the Bridgeport thread.)
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Thanks AreBeeBee! wow, they sure look like the same maker. The question is who is the bigger fish, Bridgeport or Dunlap?
My handle looks like it's been starved for oil. I plan to linseed oil it and maybe wire brush the metal but that's it.
I'll check out the Bridgeport thread.
My handle looks like it's been starved for oil. I plan to linseed oil it and maybe wire brush the metal but that's it.
I'll check out the Bridgeport thread.
Good question about who's bigger? It appears Dunlap was a trade name used by Sears for less-expensive tools: see AA's note here. Scrolling up the trademark list there, Bridgeport is Bridgeport Hardware Manufacturing and AA calls them a maker.
In the end I can't resolve this. And that I-beam shaft, which looks Bridgeportian, may have been used more widely by other manufacturers.
Kelly Vanadium Hammer acquired today.
Axes branded "True Temper" appeared after Kelly Axe was acquired by American Fork & Hoe in 1930. Was the same true of Kelly hammers?
Axes branded "True Temper" appeared after Kelly Axe was acquired by American Fork & Hoe in 1930. Was the same true of Kelly hammers?
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Private Lugnutz
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Yes. "True Temper" was an American Fork & Hoe TM, first use 1906. When American Fork & Hoe bought Kelly Axe Mfg Co in 1930, they used the branding "Kelly Works" (i.e., a subsidiary of AF&H...) for a few years, incorporated it with the True Temper brand, and then it was eventually dropped altogether.
I'm not sure why you're asking about that, though.
If you're trying to date your hammer, I'm thinking it has to be older than 1930. That is not an American Fork & Hoe hammer. They wouldn't have put the full Kelly company name and address on their axes or hammers.
Nice find.
Just wonderin' and trying to understand who was doing what, when and where. Figured this was a good place to inquire.
BlakeTheCarGuy
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Got some vintage hammers on eBay. The first part of my order anyway lol. I’m going to start collecting old hammers I just think they are so cool. I ordered 10 in total and spent $111 because shipping will get you every time lol. I actually might end up using the Blue Point as I don’t have a 12oz at work. The True Temper is a 16oz but I’m probably not going to use it just collect. I really miss True Temper brand. I think they are still around but ever since Ace bought out our local True Value stores we haven’t been able to get them. Waited all day to get them. Got home from work expecting a package and it ended up at the neighbors house lol. New UPS guy hasn’t learned yet I miss the old one.
d.mcfarland
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That Blue Point handle isn't going to last much longer if you use it!