Hardi plank siding

[gar2191]

How much would 600 SF(not bd ft) of 8 inch standard Hardi cement Siding,primed, cost me
if I get a decent price??

 

[BRIANBB]

each board is 8"x12' but you have a reveal of 6". Each board is about $6. you will need about 100 pcs

 

[duke5572]

"Standard" (most common) Hardie is 12' x 8 1/4", leaving a 7 inch reveal.

For 600 SF, you'll actually need to order about 700 SF of siding assuming you're doing normal **** joints. Always have to account for wastage with fiber cement, usually around 15%. Roughly about 96 pcs, as noted above.

Not sure where you're located, but a small batch like that is gonna run you full cost with no bulk discount. That's about $6.50/piece around here. So just the siding, about $625 before tax.

Don't forget to add cost for trim boards, plywood & housewrap (if needed), metal "plates" behind the joints, and Vulkem caulk ($5.00/tube). Plus you'll have to paint it.

Hardie isn't the cheapest material, but it is good stuff. I don't recommend it for DIYers.

 

[YukonXL04]

My city requires me to use either hardi or brick... Hardi is cheaper so that's what I'm going with. Just not sure if I want to use the lap siding that yall are talking about or go with the 4x8 sheets...

 

[CNGsaves]

I'd Pre-Paint all the planks before you put them up, especially if they're going up in air or difficult position. So much easier to paint them flat on couple of sawhorses on ground.

We used DeWalt shears to make all our cuts, and worked well like cutting cardboard with a "power tin snips" !!

Also, use nail gun with ring shank nails as you don't want those nails working their way back out, and with overlap most all nail holes are covered. Only exposed nail holes were tips of boards up in peak under soffet. For those, we pre-drilled the holes and hand nailed.

 

[Zogman]

Pre paint as CNG mentioned. I just installed mine on my garage build. I used about 500 planks. I did about a 6.25" reveal. Your numbers may vary. I re-sprayed the entire garage after install and it looks awesome. I bought a used Hitachi siding nailer on ebay, gecko siding gauges are a must if you are doing this by yourself. As opposed to CNG, I used my skill saw with a siding blade. I vice griped a square to the plank when I cut them and they came out great. Paint cut ends no matter what before you install. Do your homework and you'll be rewarded.

 

[wildstyle]

Smooth shank is actually recommended over ring shank nails as the ring shanks have a tendency to blow the back side of the siding out.

 

[rvieceli]

James Hardie has some very specific installation guidelines.

Check here:

www.hardieinstallation.com

 

[tcianci]

james hardie has some very specific installation guidelines.

Check here:

www.hardieinstallation.com

best advice yet!

 

[Cobra5150]

Score both sides the board with a razor knife then snap. Yes you use a lot of blades but if this a one time shot I'd do that or rent/borrow the shears. Sawing creates too much dust and that's some nasty sh!t.

I did an Amazon search for siding nailers and here's what it found:

maybe I typed nailher instead.......

 

[mbatarga]

I posted a short thread of recommendations on siding installation a while back:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236791

 

[gar2191]

I was going to screw it in with 1 5/8 torx screws . I called Hardi and they say you can do it but everyone is saying dont and nail it with ring shank nails.Another expense to buy a gun. endless.
what would you do..screw or nail??
btw every Home Depot and Lowes I have seen charges 9 bucks a plank. Dont know where you are getting 6 bucks?????My supplier is quoting 8 bucks..

 

[EdT]

It does come in different widths, but they may be harder to find than the standard 8" (I think). I used about 2 full units of 6" with a nominal 4" exposure on my garage project and installed all of it alone on a two story building from a ladder (yes, I am nuts). The price that others get or remember getting is of little consequence here. If that's what you have to get, then you'll have to pay the going local price. Often shows up at the local lumber salvage place around here. Regardless of what width or form you choose to use, the stuff is heavy. The gecko clamps are one of the best things I have used in one man construction projects. Check the HARDI site for how to install it. There's an off chance that they know more about it than most folks. Whatever you do, get it under something that's actually waterproof until you use it. Mine came early in the project still in the "factory" overwrap which is not water proof and a big part of my work was getting the stuff dried out. When it gets wet it gets very floppy and snaps even easier than when it's dry. I got very good a picking up soggy hardi plank and setting it out to dry. Wet or dry, carry it on edge or you'll have two pieces.

 

[gar2191]

i am doing a 2 story too. Am trying to figure out how to secure the ladder so I can get to the very top.
I remembered I have a diamond tile blade for the saw so that should work.I also bought a score tool.
I have a drill bit sharpener also so if I drill first I can redo the bits.I will sample all before I get going.

 

[volleyball]

If you are doing a 2 story, rent some scaffolding and do it safely. It will go a lot faster and look better.

 

[mbatarga]

My nearby Home Depot is $6.48 per plank:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/James-Ha...-Select-Cedarmill-Lap-Siding-215518/100064049

Buy the Hitachi nailgun, use it for the building, then sell it on CL for $50-$75 less than you paid.

 

[ertman]

We just finished our house with Hardie. $7000 for the Hardie Planks, $1000 for trim and Tyvek, $40,000 labour to install. Ouch.

I can't imagine installing it with just ladders, the siding scaffolding they used looks to be mandatory.

The garage is getting Smart Panels!

 

[aar0s]

Coming in late but we had a customer ( you know the kind, already knows everything so don't tell him the right way) that did a huge building with hardi planks. The job looked great for a year or so then the non ring shanked nails starts to pull out, now you can see every joint, looks terrible. At the minimum I would use a ring shanked nail, maybe screws on each end just to make sure the joints don't move.

 

[reader2580]

Buy the Hitachi nailgun, use it for the building, then sell it on CL for $50-$75 less than you paid.

I am currently looking for a siding nailer. Most of them on the local CL don't ever seem to sell. I would be scared to buy a new one and then try to sell it later. I have only seen one siding nailer on CL that was cheap enough for me to want to buy, but it was an hour drive each way so I passed.

I tried two pawn shops today, but they didn't have any coil nailers at all, let alone a siding coil nailer.

My neighbor can get me a siding nailer to use, but this isn't going to be a one weekend job. It will likely take me several weeks an hour or two at a time. He can't get me a nailer I can use for weeks.

 

[CNGsaves]

The Paslode cordless nailers on clearance at HomeDepot thread popping up now at $100 which is great price. In general NOW is great time to be looking for nailers with all the brand names getting clearanced out . . Bostitch, Senco, Hitachi, and Paslode. These are all good brands and don't make mistake of buying one from Harbor Freight.

Last month my new HF framing 21 degree nailer took a **** and wouldn't work right in middle of roof sheeting work, so I got lucky and found Hitachi used 30 degree nailer on CL for $100 and it ran like a champ, that also came with couple boxes of nails. Hitachi is so much lighter than clunky HF nailer so not sure I'll even mess with rebuild kit on the HF POS.

 

[reader2580]

I really want a coil siding nailer instead of a framing nailer. Siding nailers have a padded trigger while a framing nailer has sharp points on the trigger which will scratch the siding. (Not that it matters if siding that will be hidden is scratched.)

Home Depot only carried one siding nailer before the recent purge so the chances of finding something is slim. The Minneapolis/St. Paul market has rarely had any of the Home Depot clearance deals for whatever reason. Our Home Depots don't have a public computer like some of the other stores in other markets apparently have. I don't have the nerve to go behind a counter to use a computer. Most places would likely throw you out if they caught you using their computers.

 

[MushCreek]

I did our new house with Hardi, bought for 25 cents on the dollar during FL's housing crash. I used a coil nailer (Freeman; don't recommend it) over a drainage plane. I pre-painted it before hanging it. I bought a set of spacer clips which work great, especially if you're working alone. They don't really work on pieces shorter than about 8', though. I cut most of mine with a shear, but a skilsaw works if you can protect yourself from the clouds of unhealthy dust. I used SS screws and nails everywhere. You can get them online for a lot less.

 

[Jazzman442]

I did our new house with Hardi, bought for 25 cents on the dollar during FL's housing crash. I used a coil nailer (Freeman; don't recommend it) over a drainage plane. I pre-painted it before hanging it. I bought a set of spacer clips which work great, especially if you're working alone. They don't really work on pieces shorter than about 8', though. I cut most of mine with a shear, but a skilsaw works if you can protect yourself from the clouds of unhealthy dust. I used SS screws and nails everywhere. You can get them online for a lot less.

What did you not like about the Freeman Siding nailer? I have looked on line and I have seen nothing but great review. I am getting ready to install Hardi Stucco Panels on a bottom of a house that the original stucco failed. Since I am putting stone over it it is the least costly way to do this.

 

[MushCreek]

My Freemnan nailer jams a lot, trying to shoot or even 3 nails at a time. I have another Freeman nailer which is fine. It is a strap nailer.

 

[TLCObsession]

I have done a good bit of Hardi work. Buy it pre-painted and get the matching Quadlock caulk. If you do the job right you won't have to paint the house for 20 years.

2 tools that are must haves:
Gecko Guages
Rent a Hardi shear - no saw, no , no handheld shears - Best of all no dust. The shear is a foot operated guillotine.

I also recommend the commercial version of Tyvek unless you are doing a rainscreen.

 

[gemniii]

My city requires me to use either hardi or brick... Hardi is cheaper so that's what I'm going with. Just not sure if I want to use the lap siding that yall are talking about or go with the 4x8 sheets...

New person here, but why no response to this?

I know my local HD doesn't sell the 4x8 sheets, but Lowes does.
I used them about 8 years ago to reside a 10x15 shed and it was real fast and easy using screws and a cordless screwdriver.

We are going to build a 256 sq ft shed (zoning regs) and my son wanted to use the planks which looked to be a lot more difficult to install for a little better look.

 

[Jazzman442]

Im Using Hardi 4 x 8 sheets stucco board. Hardi says do the Score and bend Method. Any one use this before. I was planing on a Freeman Coild Siding Nailer or Stanless steel screws. I was planing on installing Thermo Ply ( that is what the builder used ) first then Lowes version or Tyvek Lowes says its the same then Hardi Board. I Might go with Black paper over House wrap. Plan is to either paint it or Put Air stone over it.

 

[revamped]

I would like to jump in on this if I may! I am building a 40x40 shop with 16ft ceiling, have stepped stem walls so the rear and sides have 3ft and 6ft stem walls concrete. I was at a home show and was shown some of the James Hardie Stock Disclosures and guarantee paperwork that basically states they really don't know how long their siding will last. I also saw several examples of mold under siding and various defects and wavy siding pictures of Hardi-plank. Now I am questioning my decision to even use Hardi-Plank. My house has LP siding and I know in the next 10-15 years I will not be able to keep it and will need to switch.

I was shown a PVC/Crushed rock material siding with integrated standoffs and locks that looked really high quality that is stated as close in price and comes in several colors which do not require painting for up to 15 years. Not flimsy vinyl, but actual slats of siding with pre-drilled spots to nail and lock in each row.

Does anyone have any experience with choosing the right siding for longevity?
Thanks
Revamped

 

[jack stand]

I was at a home show and was shown some of the James Hardie Stock Disclosures and guarantee paperwork that basically states they really don't know how long their siding will last. I also saw several examples of mold under siding and various defects and wavy siding pictures of Hardi-plank. Now I am questioning my decision to even use Hardi-Plank. My house has LP siding and I know in the next 10-15 years I will not be able to keep it and will need to switch.

Their installation procedure(s) will get them out of any warranty claim!
They'll claim it was installed improperly and or carried "flat" or not on edge and the paper surface was stressed with microscopic cracks, or the cut edges were not sufficiently painted. It might be OK stuff in the desert or with all their rediculous clearance procedures followed to a "T". I don't know how they are able to call it "cement", that gives homeowners a false mindset of their cement driveway, or pool, or the gutter and sidewalk on the side of the road (actually concrete). I beleive that it's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen, like back with "Masonite".

 

[wnstwolf]

Just finished the last side of my house. It has been a long journey as it is a 4,000 sq/ft two story structure. This last section just got pushed as it was under a large overhang roof that was possibly going to be a three season room. Anyhoot

As you asked price you may need to get micro order minimum and pay $6.50-7 depending on your distributor. DiabLo blade on a 10" miter saw works great. I used a hitachi roof in nailer with stainless shank nail no issues at all. Finish nailer with stainless 2.5" nails for my 4/4 trim. Best tool bar none is to pick up a set of geckos. Look it up. Best money you will spend.

Xx10 on pre painting.

 

[georgiadave]

There is a reason why so many mention a coil nailer. Hardiplank is difficult to nail by hand. I use a Duo Fast coil nailer.