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tamaraw

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Yes, I have some of both, but the answer depends on the age of the tool.

If you are considering the older Hazet drivers, with the blue wooden handle, they are very decent. The handles are not the most durable, but they were fine for the time. The blades are first class in every respect. I have not seen Vessel drivers from the same period, but I would suspect the Hazet to be the better tool.ABBA9E8F-D197-45A8-9527-B0BE65A74908.jpeg

If you are thinking of the later Hazet drivers with the yellow acetate handles, then I think they are the best Hazet drivers ever made, with durable handles and superb forged blades. Better than the Vessel of the period I think.91051F97-97A3-4EE3-9B73-1A2FF61550E3.jpeg

Of the current tools, the Hazet drivers are made by Oplast in Slovenia. They make different grades, at different prices. They’re not bad tools. The best grade is the “Trinamic”. I own quite a few of these, and they are decent, especially for the price.3226BF06-2ED6-40A3-B097-09C2B53CC490.jpeg

However, while so many tool manufacturers look to reduce the range of tools they make in house, and reduce costs generally, the Japanese try to make BETTER tools. If the trend continues, they will eventually succeed.

The Vessel “Megadora” is, in my opinion, a slightly better tool than the Hazet Trinamic. I actually prefer the handle of the Trinamic for dirty conditions, but the blades of the Megadora are superior.F827F914-A1AD-4496-892F-61C5479D7EDE.jpeg

If you consider the best screwdriver that Vessel offer, which is the Powergrip, then there is no contest, the Vessel is superior in every respect. The blades are stronger, they are better forged, better finished, and the handles are superior. To give an example, the Trinamic appear to have a forged hex bolster, but in reality this is a separate piece. The Vessel is forged in one piece.41705460-6598-4580-A1DA-DEB7F8121984.jpeg
Slightly off-topic but here's a quick shot of the Megadora 930s sitting in my Assistent. Same handle shape as the Megadora 900s in your picture but with integrated hex bolsters and tang-thru striking caps like the power grip line.

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Slightly off-topic but here's a quick shot of the Megadora 930s sitting in my Assistent. Same handle shape as the Megadora 910s in your picture but with integrated hex bolsters and tang-thru striking caps like the power grip line.

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I have those drivers in Phillips sizes. They are the JIS Phillips that I’ve owned for some years.

I didn’t particularly need the striking caps, but in my world any blue cross head driver is Pozidriv, so getting the blue handle Megadora’s in Phillips was totally going to wreck my system!
 

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Hello,

nice find in good condition (y)

From the 1972 special tools catalog is this option for compressing piston rings for the VW1500
not only
it is for 1500ccm VW engines as
- in type 1 as Beetle/small type 14 Karmann-Ghia/181 'thing'/...
- in type 2 as buses/transporters and
- in type 3 'Squareback' family (called first VW 1500) and big type 34 Karmann-Ghia.

VW engines grow since mid 1967 to 1600ccm for all of these and will need the next "2523-85" size of it.
So this is somehow useful for some VW cars 1961 - 1967 - but it is more complex in detail.

That why HAZET present in 1970 an adjustable VW solution as "2522" with 70-100 mm - less expensive than all 4 of the 2523 sizes
(changed later in 1976 to a more general "794 U-3" for all brands and is still available in 2022).
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Part#2523-83 which isn’t in the 1982 Catalog.
This 83 size exists form 1965 to 1976 in catalogs.
The first small size for 1100ccm started as "523" in 1950, as "523-75" in 1954 because of a second size and later since 1958 as "2523-75" and is included in the German catalog of 1972 - but not included in 1976 anymore.

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BMW e28 1980's 5 series cars: Looking for the rare red handle screw drivers that came with the trunk toolkit. Have only found green or grey ones for replacements..
 

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Hmm...

in Internet photos of BMW e28 on-board tools, the screw drivers do not look like HAZET.
(e.g. this one: BMW 730 (Modell E23), Werkzeug im Kofferraumdeckel )

I was only aware of the 1969-72 version with the transparent red handle match the DIN standards as e.g. HAZET 830-DIN
(at this time in addition to the transparent yellow that has been available since 1950 as e.g. HAZET 830 or the blue wooden ones as e.g. HAZET 815).
In 1976 the yellow and red are replaced by one black grip version.
(only one unusual special screwdriver HAZET 826 with mechanism to hold a screw was still red till 1985)

These red ones have been unusual and are somehow rare today... but not as popular and not as expensive either today.

My 830 DIN-5 and 830 DIN-8:
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It would appear that Hazet does not currently make 1/2" 6pt impact sockets smaller than 13mm.

There's a link on Chad's toolbox for a 12mm but it's listed as discontinued. And I see this ebay listing for an old 8mm. Looks like they still make a 12mm just in 12pt though?

Does anybody know why or when they stopped making the smaller sizes? I would like to get a 6pt set but that's kind of hard if I can't find 10mm or even 12mm :(
 

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163-270/9

1/2" drive titanium nitride 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, and 19mm allen socket set.

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The 14mm application I used as an excuse to purchase the set. I was seeing them for about 30 USD per socket in the US but amazon.de had the set for just over 100 USD; still a little pricy but a much better deal.

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I haven't really had a chance to use them yet but initial impressions are good. Compared to a few Bahco sockets in equivalent sizes, the Hazet pieces are seriously beefy units.

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163-270/9

1/2" drive titanium nitride 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, and 19mm allen socket set.

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The 14mm application I used as an excuse to purchase the set. I was seeing them for about 30 USD per socket in the US but amazon.de had the set for just over 100 USD; still a little pricy but a much better deal.

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I haven't really had a chance to use them yet but initial impressions are good. Compared to a few Bahco sockets in equivalent sizes, the Hazet pieces are seriously beefy units.

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Very nice!

I got the similar set in the plastic box that was on a factory promotion a few years back. Seem to be very decent tools.
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Hazet are one of the few manufacturers who offer two styles of these bits. I can understand the attraction of the two piece coated bits, but I suspect the one piece bits may be stronger. I’d be interested if anyone has made a comparison.

The sets comprising the one piece bits, with accessories in a metal box, also seem to be a bit of a promoted item. They can often be acquired at reasonable cost.
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Very nice!

I got the similar set in the plastic box that was on a factory promotion a few years back. Seem to be very decent tools.
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Hazet are one of the few manufacturers who offer two styles of these bits. I can understand the attraction of the two piece coated bits, but I suspect the one piece bits may be stronger. I’d be interested if anyone has made a comparison.

The sets comprising the one piece bits, with accessories in a metal box, also seem to be a bit of a promoted item. They can often be acquired at reasonable cost.
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Thanks! Not sure about strength but the gold ones look cooler :p

There are quite a few other styles from Hazet as well; the long versions, the long ball versions, the impact versions, etc.

The gold set with the plastic case is similar to what I got but I believe actually swaps out the 19mm for a 9mm.
 

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Thanks! Not sure about strength but the gold ones look cooler :p
Then you also need to buy the 1/4 ones, one piece fully TINed hexes and torxes. Unfortunately, I've only found them in this expensive kit or separately about 8-10 eur each. I've had my eyes on this for a while.

The top left ones in the pic are 1/4", rest are 1/2"
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These little beauties
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Has anyone used a 916HPK ratchet? It looks like a 1/2" variant of the 8816HP 3/8" body but I can't find much info besides this 30s Dutch video. No rebuild kits listed on Hazet's website.
 
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916 = 1/2" ratchet series,
HP = High Performance series with 90 gear teeth and only 4° steps and in this case with 400 Nm
That's what I saw on the product page (linked in my comment above). I just couldn't find any comments/photos/videos from actual users, maybe it is a newer or less popular model.

K = German "kurz" = short
Cool to know :)

I expect the general 916 HP parts are used in the short version too as:
https://web.hazet.de/ersatzteil-shop/product_info.php?products_id=896218981
But ask the HAZET support...

I think this model is not just a shorter handle but actually uses the smaller gear mechanism from the 3/8" HP models for a more compact head. It looks smaller in the photos and I also notice that it is rated for 400N⋅m just like the 8816HP 3/8" models while the rest of the 916HP 1/2" models are rated for 1000N⋅m.

I'll see what Hazet support says, and if I do order one, I'll share some pictures here.
 

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My most recent purchase to help me adjust the valves on my W126 Mercedes Diesel. Note: one of them has W. Germany.
 

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... Note: one of them has W. Germany.
the 2769 as Mercedes tool appears in catalogues at around 1976 till at least 2010 (not included anymore in 2018).
Since 1979 Hazet start using the "West Germany"... till around 1990.
So it's unclear which is newer with or without "W" (West).
 
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the 2769 as Mercedes tool appears in catalogues at around 1976 till at least 2010 (not included anymore in 2018).
Since 1979 Hazet start using the "West Germany"... till around 1990.
So it's unclear which is newer with or without "W" (West).
Thank you for that information.
 

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I'm looking into a 1/2" drive Hazet set and I noticed the 953HP set seems to be a "better deal" than the stand alone 1/2" kits? Is there something I'm missing. The 932/18 looks like the same size spread, but without the 1/4 set up, and includes a universal adapter instead. It's also $40-50 more? (At least on mister worker)

I'd get the 900 set and be done, but it's even more money and I don't use the large sizes.

Amazon uk has the 905 kit for $420 right now, FYI
 

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I'm looking into a 1/2" drive Hazet set and I noticed the 953HP set seems to be a "better deal" than the stand alone 1/2" kits? Is there something I'm missing. The 932/18 looks like the same size spread, but without the 1/4 set up, and includes a universal adapter instead. It's also $40-50 more? (At least on mister worker)

I'd get the 900 set and be done, but it's even more money and I don't use the large sizes.

Amazon uk has the 905 kit for $420 right now, FYI
The 953 sets generally seem to be on some sort of factory promo, and are very good value.

I bought the 953spc set a few years back for the same reason. I didn’t have (or really need) any Hazet 1/4” drive at the time, but I liked it so much I ended up with a lot more.

The Amazon UK prices vary wildly - I’ve seen the Hazet 905 sets vary between about £330 and £430 ($400 to $520) - but those prices include U.K. tax so divide by 1.2 if in the U.S.

The 905 sets include the traditional Hazet metal box, the 953 only includes a plastic case.
 

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Hi Gang,

I am looking into upgrading from my us craftsman set to Hazet (german cars, german tools, right?)
a few quick questions on combination wrenches. Does anyone know the differences between the various models (163, 600, 603, etc)?

Also has anyone ever seen a set of 6 point hazet combination or box wrenches?
 

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Hi Gang,

I am looking into upgrading from my us craftsman set to Hazet (german cars, german tools, right?)
a few quick questions on combination wrenches. Does anyone know the differences between the various models (163, 600, 603, etc)?

Also has anyone ever seen a set of 6 point hazet combination or box wrenches?
Doubt you will really need or ever use 6 points.

I have the 603 and 600. The 600 are used most because the angle suits needs most often.
 

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Hi Gang,

I am looking into upgrading from my us craftsman set to Hazet (german cars, german tools, right?)
a few quick questions on combination wrenches. Does anyone know the differences between the various models (163, 600, 603, etc)?

Also has anyone ever seen a set of 6 point hazet combination or box wrenches?
603 - standard/short combination wrench with offset box end
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600 - long combination wrench with angled box end
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600LG - extra long combination wrench, otherwise as above

163 - I think denotes some sort of set

The 600’s are lovely tools!

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All I use are 6 point. 12s are just asking to round off ends.
I started using 6 point in the late 90’s when I started encountering butter soft, poorly formed fasteners. Here in the U.K. Fords were the first place I encountered these.

The argument against 6 point wrenches is that you need a lot of space to turn them. This is true. I have 6 point wrenches by Snap On and Nepros and it can be an issue.

But.. German wrenches are designed to turn German fasteners, and while I tend to favour 6 point sockets, I’ve never yet had a problem using 12 point wrenches on any fastener I’ve found on a German vehicle.

Relatively small hex / torx heads on csk screws holding brake discs have given me all sorts of grief, but not conventional bolts… yet!
 

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All I use are 6 point. 12s are just asking to round off ends.
Well, if you are using 20+ year old Craftsman wrenches I can see the concern.
I retired my Craftsman tools about 25 years ago when I learned how bad they really are. Learned after using other high quality tools including Hazet. Most of my hand tools are Hazet and I never looked back. I have some Pittsburgh sockets, ratchets and wrenches that are better quality IMO than my Craftsman tools.
And for the "6 point" I am referring to 6 point box end wrenches. Not sockets... I have many Hazet 6 point sockets and love them. 6 point box wrenches are not practical in most tight spaces. I also have flex head Gearwrench wrenches and in all honesty those are my most used of all my metric wrenches. 2nd are my Hazet deep offset 630 series and I have some special combos in those like 10x13mm, 13x17mm along with 17x19mm and I can take apart 90% of a VW with those 3 wrenches. Especially when traveling light into a boneyard.
 

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Hi Gang,

I am looking into upgrading from my us craftsman set to Hazet (german cars, german tools, right?)
a few quick questions on combination wrenches. Does anyone know the differences between the various models (163, 600, 603, etc)?

Also has anyone ever seen a set of 6 point hazet combination or box wrenches?
I haven't found any German made wrenches in 6pt. Except the Hazet 603 combination wrenches from 9mm down to 5.5mm, the 600 wrenches have a "Flank Drive" type box the 603 are the older type of box.
 

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All I use are 6 point. 12s are just asking to round off ends.
6pt wrenches are cool but they just don't fit a lot of applications. They tend to be more specialty items for use on soft, damaged, or very small fasteners.

Quality 12pt wrenches do not normally round off corners. A lot of sizes are more likely to shear before they round anyway. And if you need to put a ton of force on something and have the space, you will probably be using a 6pt socket with a longer tool to begin with. Because of this, 6pt combination wrenches are pretty uncommon and your options will be limited. YMMV
 

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I haven't found any German made wrenches in 6pt.
It seems to be mostly an American thing with old Craftsman or SK and some current Snap-On and Proto. There's a handful of 6pt Japanese models (non-combination) from Kowa and KTC/Nepros but I haven't seen much else outside specialty tools.
Except the Hazet 603 combination wrenches from 9mm down to 5.5mm, the 600 wrenches have a "Flank Drive" type box the 603 are the older type of box.
Good call on the different broaching!

Example photos I found online for hoffman912's benefit, 603 on the left and 600N on the right:
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190L-1 tote arrived earlier today with some brake fluid and other bits from Pelican Parts.

As I had hoped, the gap in the middle fits right over the bars on my 160ST Mini-Assi when collapsed, so it will make a great auxiliary storage for rolling materials or supplies down to the garage. There's a little bit of wiggle room but it is held securely and can't slide off on it's own.
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Hi all, someone is interested in this Hazet 240a set
 

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nice find of the 1930s (y)
but the ratchet of your 240a set is from another German brand: Gedore.
(Gebrüder Dowidat Remscheid = brothers "Dowidat" from city Remscheid)
Not sure if the sockets are original Hazet? - some of these looks different to mine...

my incomplete restored set with Hazet ratchet:

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nice find of the 1930s (y)
but the ratchet of your 240a set is from another German brand: Gedore.
(Gebrüder Dowidat Remscheid = brothers "Dowidat" from city Remscheid)
Not sure if the sockets are original Hazet? - some of these looks different to mine...

my incomplete restored set with Hazet ratchet:

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regards,
Thank you very much for the information. (now discover the history of these tools :) ) I will come back with detailed pictures
 
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