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Hellfire floor coating experience

talonboy

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My newly poured floor is about 2 months old, and 572 sq ft. They used fiberglass or similar in the concrete, and I had many hairs sticking up, or laying flat on, or just under the surface. I power washed the floor, then did a acid etch with muriatic acid. Hosed the floor down well, and swept it out. Let dry overnight. Next day The fiberglass hairs were still there. I Tried to burn them off, and that did work great on the ones sticking up, but that wouldn’t do anything for the ones laying flat, just under the surface. Took some 80 grit sandpaper to the floor, and noticed this cleaned up the surface very well. So I decided to go rent a floor buffer from Home Depot. They recommended a 60 grit sandpaper disk. I sanded the floor down, then swept and washed the floor down. I acid etched the floor a second time, hosed down, swept, and power washed again.

Waited a week for the floor to dry properly. Swept and blew the floor clean. I used 18" rollers to roll the Hellfire down. Did three coats, waiting about 3 hours between coats. I used a brush on the stem walls, and expansion grooves. The Hellfire is pretty thin, and goes on pretty easy. Fumes weren't too bad.

I didn't have spike shoes, so I was lucky I only did about half the floor. The floor was very tacky after 3 hours, and couldn't really walk on it in shoes. I was able to reach everywhere with a long pole on the roller, on the second and third coat.

As UPS separated my shipment of 6 gallons, I only had 4 gallons. I coated about 1/2 the floor, and used about 2-1/2 gallons. I predict needing 5 of the 6 gallons I purchased.

Before and after pictures attached. Second 1/2 this weekend.
 

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So you covered 286 sq ft with 2 and a half gallons? Sounds like you should have covered all of it with 2. Website indicates 300-400 sq ft coverage per gallon.

I was just looking at this product and Rust Bullet today. Sub'd.
 

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So you covered 286 sq ft with 2 and a half gallons? Sounds like you should have covered all of it with 2. Website indicates 300-400 sq ft coverage per gallon.

I was just looking at this product and Rust Bullet today. Sub'd.

He mentioned doing three coats so 300-400 sq ft sounds about right.
 
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talonboy

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So you covered 286 sq ft with 2 and a half gallons? Sounds like you should have covered all of it with 2. Website indicates 300-400 sq ft coverage per gallon.

I was just looking at this product and Rust Bullet today. Sub'd.

Well closer to 317 sq ft. My floor has 9 panels, I did 5 so far. 4 more to go. The first gallon covered 5 panels, one coat. The second and third coats were about 3/4 gallon each.
 
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Looking great!! Coverage varies on how porous your floor is and naturally not everyone dips/rolls the same way.


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talonboy

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Finished the second half of the floor yesterday. I used just under 5 gallons total for 3 full coats of complete floor, and stem wall. I think it looks really good, except the dirty footprints in the picts. This will sweep right off. Just outside the person door is bare dirt, and I tracked a bit in.

Lessons learned:
When painting the vertical stem walls, the metallic would flow down onto the floor, and look like a run.
The Hellfire needs a good bit of mixing in the can. A mixer on an electric dri
ll work well.
If you put the top back on the can, with any material left in the ridge at the top, the top will be very difficult to remove.
 

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That's what I was going to ask. Looks wet.

Looks great, I like it so far.

I don't see roller marks? How's it look in person.

Please keep us updated.
 
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talonboy

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That's what I was going to ask. Looks wet.

Looks great, I like it so far.

I don't see roller marks? How's it look in person.

Please keep us updated.

There are some roller marks, if you look closely in a few spots. Overall it looks really good. There is some grit that blew in, and stuck to the floor, it was a bit windy out.
 

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Wow, that looks better than expected. Everyone seemed to tap dance on the descriptions. I was betting on a darker powdered aluminum look. I could happily live with that. Nice job!

You didnt mention how slippery? Did you add any grit on purpose?
 

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This looks like it might be a nice option for in between the HD40 and a full-on epoxy. My larger pad of 2,400 sqft starts to add up product quickly.

Scotty - I just sent you an email on this to get your thoughts.

Fantastic looking floor!
 
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talonboy

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Wow, that looks better than expected. Everyone seemed to tap dance on the descriptions. I was betting on a darker powdered aluminum look. I could happily live with that. Nice job!

You didnt mention how slippery? Did you add any grit on purpose?

The floor is not slippery at all dry. I did not add any grit to the Hellfire, I used it straight out of the can. I haven't tried it wet, it wasn't a big concern for me, as it seldom rains here in the desert Southwest.
 
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So...hows it holding up?

LOL!

Stuff looks good.

Very good thus far, but haven't really done anything in the garage yet. Half of the floor is a 1-1/2 weeks old, the other half is 4 days old. Plan to start parking a car in it shortly.
 
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I looked it up as I had never heard of it. They are using your pictures on their website? Are you the only one to have ever used it? :D
 

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Wow looks great. Didn't know about this until now. Is it a Metallic looking coating? the website seems to indicate that it is composed of metallic components.
Is the smell bad?
 

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I'm leaning towards purchasing Hellfire this spring. I'd also like to know how well it's holding up for you.
 
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talonboy

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The Hellfire seems to be holding up fine thus far. I have been doing electrical, insulation, and drywall lately. Honestly the floor is so covered with drywall dust etc, I can't really see it.
 

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Should have some info later this week.

Not you! lol!:lol_hitti

I was asking Talon boy, but he hasn't been here since Feb.

I did see in another thread that you were waiting on some info about UV protection?

Any updates would be welcomed.

Thanks Legacy.
 

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I wanted to offer an update!!
We had a very successful re-formulation. UV resistance is good now and we also improved the general appearance as well. New labels are being printed and the revised product will be ready in a few weeks.
 

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Bump.

Anyone else tried this?

Talonboy is a no sho, hasn't been on since Feb.

I have tried it - my garage floor had all sorts of grease and oil stains as well as spots with dried paint, etc...I rented a floor tool and "coating removal" attachment from THD and went to town. It took awhile to get all the dust out, but I then rolled on 2 (maybe 3?) coats of Hellfire with the rollers Scotty sells. All material was put down in one afternoon because it dries so fast! It's been down since July and has held up extremely well, although I don't subject it to much abuse. I was really just looking for something that was easy to put down, relatively inexpensive, and wouldn't experience hot tire pickup, etc...hearing that V2 is on the horizon and has better UV resistance makes me wish I had waited, because my garage has an exposed apron that only stayed the original gray color for a few days - it's now a much different color than the rest of the garage even though it doesn't get prolonged direct sunlight during the day.
 

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I have tried it - my garage floor had all sorts of grease and oil stains as well as spots with dried paint, etc...I rented a floor tool and "coating removal" attachment from THD and went to town. It took awhile to get all the dust out, but I then rolled on 2 (maybe 3?) coats of Hellfire with the rollers Scotty sells. All material was put down in one afternoon because it dries so fast! It's been down since July and has held up extremely well, although I don't subject it to much abuse. I was really just looking for something that was easy to put down, relatively inexpensive, and wouldn't experience hot tire pickup, etc...hearing that V2 is on the horizon and has better UV resistance makes me wish I had waited, because my garage has an exposed apron that only stayed the original gray color for a few days - it's now a much different color than the rest of the garage even though it doesn't get prolonged direct sunlight during the day.



If you are interested, I will gladly send you some V2, on us. Only have to degloss, wipe clean and coat. Email me to get some coming your way.

This is open to any prior customers.




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I wanted to follow up...
Hellfire Concrete Coating, Formula 2, is in production and is now shipping. Orders that were on hold have been shipped. The new version offers the following:

  • UV Stabillity (excellent)
  • Improved Coloration/Appearance
  • Better Cure Stability
  • Reasonable Cost vs. Epoxies/Polyureas

This product should be considered when the user wants a uniform gray color, excellent chemical/wear resistance, ease of install (single component) and longevity. It can be flaked but frankly, if this is your goal, look at our Nohr-S Polyurea. Lastly, this is a great COLD WEATHER COATING. Cures down to 15 deg f.

Link: http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/hellfire-coating/hellfire-concrete-coating.html
 
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Thanks for the update Scotty.

I ordered some over black Friday weekend, looking forward to it. (not putting it down...having it done! lol!)
 
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