Here she goes.....

[chadwik74]

Been dreaming this project up for awhile now. It's a 42'X60' with 12' walls. I wanted the guy to start in the spring, but a house he was building kept him away till now. After the foundation was done, he started building with just one other guy(two to put the rafters up)and did this much in a week!

Hoe comin in for the frost wall....

Diggin....

Dug...

As you can see, I bought the lumber when there was snow on the ground hoping for a spring build....never happen'd

Had to dig a hole and get some more fill dirt....

It's going to have two overhead door's (12wX11'h and 9'wX 10'h)along with a 3' steel man door. I planned on in-floor heating and pouring a slab this year, but it's getting pretty late.

 

[scofo]

That's ginormously huge, that much progress in a week is unbelievable, very cool. What ya' gonna use it for?

 

[chadwik74]

That's one week of 'lumber only' progress.....the footing's were about two week's with a rain delay and the guy doing other project's.

It's going to be for toy storage. I have my current shop packed with my boat and JEEP project, and I can't really do anything else in there. I'm sick of backing my boat into a 7' door with inches to spare on either side. Plus I have quad's,bikes and sled's stashed in a couple of small shed's that I have to dig out every season. I figure if i'm building one....might as well go BIG!!!

 

[Bevis]

I figure if i'm building one....might as well go BIG!!!

How true that is..Looks good sofar, keep them pics coming.

 

[blkhonda1991]

nice build, but whats up with the wood at the top of the foundation walls?

 

[rocketman]

Isn't that the Dallas Cowboy's new stadium??

 

[chadwik74]

=blkhonda1991;278684]nice build, but whats up with the wood at the top of the foundation walls?

They called them "bucks".....they leveled them off and nailed them in between the forms before the pour. I guess that's how they nail the shop down instead of using reddi-rod anchors??? The treated bottom board get's nailed to that.....unsure of why it's different than other buildings, as long as it stay's standing....

 

[jamm]

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I've never seen this detail used before. Just curious though. If this wood is to hold the sill board in place, what holds them in place to the stem wall. Is there anything anchoring the wood to the stem wall? Nails protruding through the boards certainly will not provide the proper support as they would just pull out from any wind load the building is subject to.

It's an interesting concept. Everything else looks good. Keep the pics coming.

 

[Bib Overalls]

jamm - I've never seen this detail used before. Just curious though. If this wood is to hold the sill board in place, what holds them in place to the stem wall. Is there anything anchoring the wood to the stem wall? Nails protruding through the boards certainly will not provide the proper support as they would just pull out from any wind load the building is subject to.

It's an interesting concept. Everything else looks good. Keep the pics coming.

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New concept for me to.

 

[chadwik74]

I'm assuming the concrete alone hold's them in place....the nail's get yanked out with the form's so I don't think they have anything to do with it....I will ask the concrete guy this week for some input to answer any questions...I was wondering if there was any hurricane straps, or anchors that go in place.....but like I said...as long as it stay's standing is all I care!

 

[buzz]

That's how all the basement guys do it up here, except what I have seen is they throw in a ton of nails on the inside of the "ladder" so they are half in the wood, half in the concrete. This is what holds the wood to the concrete. I'm guessing on the setup above the nails would have stayed in the boards and not been pulled out with the forms.

 

[Bib Overalls]

That's how all the basement guys do it up here, except what I have seen is they throw in a ton of nails on the inside of the "ladder" so they are half in the wood, half in the concrete. This is what holds the wood to the concrete. I'm guessing on the setup above the nails would have stayed in the boards and not been pulled out with the forms.

I have also seen lag bolt used for this purpose.

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Can you (chadwik74) post a picture of the framing where it meets the concrete. I'm really interested in seeing how it was done. I'm thinking the plate may be nailed into those short pieces of 2x that are embedded in the foundation. Where is this being built?

 

[chadwik74]

I'll see if I can get some more pics tomorrow.You are correct in saying that they are nailed to the cross pieces of 2x4. They strapped the roof today and also found out that the metal supplier shorted the 12' sections of wall tin by 6"......Oh well, it's still moving along and the roof tin should go up tomorrow.....and I'm located North of Edmonton,AB

 

[Nealcrenshaw]

yeah i thought the nails would stay in,and be used for anchoring the wood.It's coming along

 

[chadwik74]

Here's a close up of that bottom board..........

And today's progress so far.....

 

[Bib Overalls]

You are correct in saying that they are nailed to the cross pieces of 2x4.

Interesting way to build. I can see the advantages of this system from a form building standpoint along with wall erection. I'm assuming it is a proven and approved building practice in your area. But down here the building code enforcers would have reservations about it.

 

[GDA]

Wow... 42x60 is bigger than some peoples houses! Please post up what all you put in that garage for tools and toys.

 

[chadwik74]

Interesting way to build. I can see the advantages of this system from a form building standpoint along with wall erection. I'm assuming it is a proven and approved building practice in your area. But down here the building code enforcers would have reservations about it.

The guy building it say's it's really common and his garage is done the same way. I would have thought some hurricane straps or something wouldn't hurt, but he said this is fine.I might go in afterwards and put some fairly large srews in all the cross pieces I see. Not sure if it will help, but I feel a screw is better than a nail?? And the inspector never had anything to say but "looks good"!


As for toy's and tool's.....It will mostly be cold storage for a year or two. I don't have enough toy's to fill it up yet, (working on that)but I am still fairly young. Basiclly wanted to free up my smaller shop for project's and build this big one for future usage.

 

[Iron-Iceberg]

The guy building it say's it's really common and his garage is done the same way. I would have thought some hurricane straps or something wouldn't hurt, but he said this is fine.I might go in afterwards and put some fairly large srews in all the cross pieces I see. Not sure if it will help, but I feel a screw is better than a nail?? And the inspector never had anything to say but "looks good"!.

Not always, nails will bend many screws will snap when bent. And ever try to pull out a hot diped nail?
Of course this is for California earth quakes. LOL

 

[chadwik74]

A few more.....

Still waiting for the man door, window's and proper length of side wall metal. Once that arrive's it should be looking pretty good.

 

[drmarkr]

That is looking great man!! Can't believe you'll ever fill it up, but it always seems to happen....some corollary to Murphy's Law I guess.

What's all that white stuff of the ground??



MR

 

[chadwik74]

Haha...thanks Doc!Don't tell me you never seen that white stuff before? I'm getting a bit choked with the contractor....long story short, fiancee's best friend's dad that was suppose to start in May just got started a few weeks ago and already had a few problem's. Show's up whenever....had all summer to get material, and now were waiting for it??? Still no overhead doors or man door. Picked up the proper tin for the side walls Fri for him and it rained Mon....No rain today and NO PROGRESS!!! But he did lend me his Bobcat, so guess I should just shut up and wait.....Here's a few more pics of the slow process.....

Rented a sheep foot and pounded the hell out of the inside and out...

Spread a bit of gravel....(25yrds)

And this is the reason for the build. I can't even get around in here.... I need to free up some space and heat this one for year around work. I'm 33 now and I figure it will be half full this year, so by the time I'm 50.......

 

[rocketman]

That garage/shop/barn, those toys and only 33?? Damn, you must be in the mortgage forclosure business!!

In the Chicago suburban area, a building like that, with the land needed, and the grease for the locals, government and "union issues" would cost you half a million easy.

 

[kool55]

Thats going to be nice when you get it finished.My shop is 42x75 and I`ll tell you it fills up fast. What material are you using on the interior? I used the same metal siding inside for the walls and ceiling and it turned out perfect. Really bright and clean.I would pop some pics on here if I could figure it out.

 

[MichaelUser]

Wow out in SoCal it would have to be a tilt-up with more rebar then the Hoover Dam, but hey earthquakes rule!!!

Looks good what about the floor?

 

[rancherbill]

I know I'm a little late, but..

The ladder on top of the concrete does two things.

First it is a perfectly level surface for the subsequent building. It is hard to get the footing level. With this approach you get the footing close, erect the forms and then install the ladder perfectly level. You can account for up to 3" of variance in the footings and end up with a perfectly level building surface which simplifies subsequent framing.

Secondly, when the walls are put up you can put a SILL GASKET on the ladder and get a very good air seal. This will stop air infiltration and lower heating and cooling.

 

[chadwik74]

Wow out in SoCal it would have to be a tilt-up with more rebar then the Hoover Dam, but hey earthquakes rule!!!

Looks good what about the floor?

Floor is getting poured next year. With the late start and the cold coming I was talked into letting it settle till spring. Concrete with in-floor heating and a drain.

 

[Mikea57]

Hey, great looking building but I've got a couple of questions. Why was there no exterior insulation put on, especially in such a cold environment? And, how much land are you on there? Doesn't look like there's anything around you up there! Keep chugging at it, you'll get there!!

 

[MXtras]

Great looking build. Surely you will fill it up.

Very nice space!

Scott

 

[chadwik74]

Hey, great looking building but I've got a couple of questions. Why was there no exterior insulation put on, especially in such a cold environment? And, how much land are you on there? Doesn't look like there's anything around you up there! Keep chugging at it, you'll get there!!

Not sure on the answer for the first one....I know I'll poly the inside, but it's common up here to strap the walls as opposed to sheeting with plywood. In insulation you are meaning house wrap hey?

2nd one....I'm on 5acres of land with my place right in the middle. I do have one neighbor north of me, but there is a nice row of tall spuce to block the view....

Thanks for all the comment's guy's!!!

 

[chadwik74]

A few more..........still no overhead doors!!

 

[Stärke]

I almost clicked back when I seen the shed in the first pic.

Glad I kept reading!

 

[kbs2244]

Now you have to put a pourch on the back side so you have a place to enjoy those sunsets.
I,m thinking fire pit, hot tub.....

 

[chadwik74]

Floor pad and infloor heating coming soon in may.....stay tuned.(took a lil longer than I thought to save up that much coin)

 

[Hud]

Nice..I love open truss built spaces

 

[HalbertBros.Racing]

what pitch roof is that. looks great

 

[BEAVO]

nice shop!!

 

[jktruck150]

Did you ever get your doors put on?

 

[Motown 454]

Sweet building.

 

[chadwik74]

Did you ever get your doors put on?

Yep.....he installed them that same year in the beginning of Dec when it was snowing and blowing. The only thing I wish I did was get black doors....thought about painting the white ones, but not sure how that would hold up.

Not too sure on the pitch.