Lol reality check much? I am guessing it is easier to blame some one for failures or goals that you could not achieve.
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Lol reality check much? I am guessing it is easier to blame some one for failures or goals that you could not achieve.
Wonder how many that bemoan the loss of American Manufacturing, ever even worked in a factory. 
Or, is it just a job someone else should take on?
I've worked in six, half them the worked was tedious, hazardous and the pay in all was barely getting by, for most of the workers. Good luck moving up, since those better paid workers were not going anywhere. You could become a foreman, then all of your co-workers would hate you and you would have to wear an ugly tie.
Probably doesn't matter anyway, since there will be no workers now and into the future. A new "Ellis island" is nowhere on the horizon. Schools have close here and consolidated, especially from the rural areas, where a lot of the factory workers used to come from. There are very few children.
The factories we are building are at least focusing on advanced batteries and modern technology, instead of yet another electric drill model.
Or, is it just a job someone else should take on?I've worked in six, half them the worked was tedious, hazardous and the pay in all was barely getting by, for most of the workers. Good luck moving up, since those better paid workers were not going anywhere. You could become a foreman, then all of your co-workers would hate you and you would have to wear an ugly tie.
Probably doesn't matter anyway, since there will be no workers now and into the future. A new "Ellis island" is nowhere on the horizon. Schools have close here and consolidated, especially from the rural areas, where a lot of the factory workers used to come from. There are very few children.
The factories we are building are at least focusing on advanced batteries and modern technology, instead of yet another electric drill model.
I dunno. My feeling is that SK just sat there and never changed until it was time to dump and run. Whether that was ignorance or strategy I don't know, but it was definitely not going to allow them to endure. As a low-visibility brand and less-and-less MiUSA, I'd be kinda surprised if they exist in 5 years.
Aside from the fact I don't think you know where the room is for Geopolitics 101, you definitely didn't realize the existence of Geoeconomics 101, 102, 201, 202, etc.
As far as the rest, I'll quote myself in response:
AffableCurmudgeon
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I will not convince those with biased opinions, but economically, regardless of country of origin, if a sale is made in the US, it ALWAYS has a positive impact on our US economy.
As an example, think about this:
When an American buys something at Harbor Freight, he is supporting these AMERICAN jobs:
1. Builders who built the store and the materials that went into constructing/buying/selling everything in the store; shelves, wiring, security systems, fixtures, light bulbs, cash registers, computer systems etc. etc.
2. Sales people and cashiers who work at the store
3. People who work at HF corporate
4. People that these employed people pay to buy goods and services from, who in turn support a brand-new list of other American workers
5. Dock workers who unload freight from cargo ships, trucks, planes
6. Cargo and freight company employees
7. Oil refinery workers who fuel the cargo industry
8. Auditors, bankers, financiers, lawyers etc. who put the business deals together
9. End users of the tools who use the tools to earn a living
10. Countless of other people who make their living by selling goods and services to all these people above. It is a cycle.
These are all REAL AMERICAN jobs being supported. Yes, this does not include some tool manufacturing jobs (does however include a LOT of other manufacturing jobs to support the jobs listed above) but those manufacturing jobs are not the ONLY jobs in America.
As an example, think about this:
When an American buys something at Harbor Freight, he is supporting these AMERICAN jobs:
1. Builders who built the store and the materials that went into constructing/buying/selling everything in the store; shelves, wiring, security systems, fixtures, light bulbs, cash registers, computer systems etc. etc.
2. Sales people and cashiers who work at the store
3. People who work at HF corporate
4. People that these employed people pay to buy goods and services from, who in turn support a brand-new list of other American workers
5. Dock workers who unload freight from cargo ships, trucks, planes
6. Cargo and freight company employees
7. Oil refinery workers who fuel the cargo industry
8. Auditors, bankers, financiers, lawyers etc. who put the business deals together
9. End users of the tools who use the tools to earn a living
10. Countless of other people who make their living by selling goods and services to all these people above. It is a cycle.
These are all REAL AMERICAN jobs being supported. Yes, this does not include some tool manufacturing jobs (does however include a LOT of other manufacturing jobs to support the jobs listed above) but those manufacturing jobs are not the ONLY jobs in America.
To be fair, that's as true for the MiUSA tool makers as it is anything else.
HF is a nit compared to Walmart, Home Depot and Lowe's (and add Target, etc. to the pile).
What’s to change?
They made socket sets and wrenches, that people use to remove and replace fasteners. All people had to do was buy them at the price SK needed to charge to remain profitable.
They didn’t buy them, because they had two dozen other choices of similar quality at lower prices.
or.....salaries haven't kept up to pay the "fair price" you describe. Greediness cuts both ways.If we want to know who to blame for the current state of US manufacturing, maybe look in the mirror and this forum is the perfect place to "reflect", since we have our lifelong obsession with Sears.
For a hundred years we could have paid and endless number of US manufacturers a fair price for their products. But, instead we went to Sears, where we could get that manufacturer's exact same(or similar) product - with a different name, for less money. Hell, in later years, wait for a sale and pay even less. Everything, not just tools. Underpants, refrigerators, tires. Wasn't even just Sears, Sam Walton, Kmart. Everybody had to feed those demanding "bargains", always searching for the lowest price.
When a manufacture has to "discount", that hurts their bottom line, no matter their volume. 9th grade economics. Might be one good reason that nearly tool (and ever other product) by a US company we love is either out of business, importing their products, or has been gobbled up by yet another greedy, profit obsessed conglomerate.
Obviously we are not here typing on our US made computers, but will bash HF for all of our problems, which almost sounds like organized propaganda. (but then I watch a lot of historical documentaries.)
When Ideal Industries bought SK out of bankruptcy in 2010, they setup a new factory and made a decent attempt at a go of it. They did bring out their X beam ratcheting wrenches and the LP90 series ratchets. Honestly, I think the lost their shorts warranting the **** the previous owners put out. I am not surprised in it being sold off to a Chinese based company.
Maybe consumers just ended up cutting their own throat's.
Manufacturers that operate in the US have to compete against foreign labor costs