High quality Square D panel board ?

[Steve from Socal]

I am looking for a good quality single phase panel and it seems that Square D has cheapened the line. What would be a good quality industrial panel MLO preferred 100-200 amp with 30-42 spaces?

Steve

 

[ddawg16]

Steve....I installed (not wired yet) a SO2040M200 panel for my 2-story addition....

20 Space....40 ckts using tandum breakers...I think it's well made for the money....

 

[djjsr]

I think the regular Square D stuff is ok. I got one last year and it seems the same quality as another one I have that's 20 years old. HOWEVER, I think the Homeline Square D boxes aren't quite as good. I've looked at them and they seem a bit "light duty" in their construction. I think they still use the QO breakers.

 

[walrus]

I think the regular Square D stuff is ok. I got one last year and it seems the same quality as another one I have that's 20 years old. HOWEVER, I think the Homeline Square D boxes aren't quite as good. I've looked at them and they seem a bit "light duty" in their construction. I think they still use the QO breakers.

Homeline do not use QO breakers.

 

[Steve from Socal]

I would like to use QO breakers, this will be in a commercial building. It is going next to this so, I would like a quality piece.

Steve

 

[djjsr]

Oops, Walrus is right, no QO breakers in the Homeline.

Check Schneider Electrics website to figure out what you need. It's pretty good.

http://products.schneider-electric.us/products-services/products/load-centers/

 

[Aceman]

I would like to use QO breakers, this will be in a commercial building. It is going next to this so, I would like a quality piece.

Steve

Call your local Square D distributor, heck you might be able to price it on Grainger, but they make a "bolt on" QO breaker as well. Remember, with Sq D if you want nice, you're going to pay for it.

There is a difference between loadcenters(residential) and panels(everything else). When you buy a panel, you're buying a can, guts, and a trim seperately. A loadcenter has all that combined.

So if you're truly interested in buying a "commercial" panel, you're best bet would be a local distributor who can put together a complete package of all the components which will ensure they fit together properly. These packages will come with a full panel of breakers, so your supplier should ask you what type and how many you like. For instance, twenty single pole 20's, five 2 pole 40's, etc. They usually throw in breakers in for practically nothing when you buy a panelboard package, but if you try and buy them a few at a time later they will hammer you on price!

That is one reason we choose not to use Sq D, individual breaker prices are often ridiculous for commercial panels when we go to add a circuit. We'll sometimes buy a whole panel with breakers just to steal the breakers out of it, it's cheaper!?!?

 

[jack stand]

I am looking for a good quality single phase panel and it seems that Square D has cheapened the line. What would be a good quality industrial panel MLO preferred 100-200 amp with 30-42 spaces?

Steve

Sq D QO line. Been makin em for years. It's nice to be able to get replacement breakers 20 years form now. HD and Lowes has (had) a 200A panel that came with a bunch of breakers, good deal. It might be larger than you need but do the math and it prolly makes sence and it's nice to have the extra space.

 

[StumpjumperDave]

I've been selling SQD gear for 29 years....I wouldnt use anything else if it was my choice...

 

[ishiboo]

I would like to use QO breakers, this will be in a commercial building. It is going next to this so, I would like a quality piece.

Steve

Simple, QO panel unless the project warrants a NQ.

The actual circuit breaker is the same between QO and Homeline, it's just the packaging that differs - physical dimensions, trip indicator, etc.

 

[mrb]

whats the available fault current where you are installing the subpanel? Can you use 10Ka breakers or do you need 22ka?

 

[Steve from Socal]

The building fault current is 16.6Ka

Steve

 

[mrb]

16.6ka where? whats the interrupt rating of the breakers in that I-line?

 

[Steve from Socal]

The breakers in the I-Line are FC and FH the lowest rating at 480 is 25Ka

The panel is going on the secondary side of a 25KVa transformer with an Iz 6.1

Steve

 

[pattenp]

Except also the QO breaker cost almost twice as much as the Homeline breaker and they aren't interchangeable.

Simple, QO panel unless the project warrants a NQ.

The actual circuit breaker is the same between QO and Homeline, it's just the packaging that differs - physical dimensions, trip indicator, etc.

 

[gnxtc2]

Steve....I installed (not wired yet) a SO2040M200 panel for my 2-story addition....

20 Space....40 ckts using tandum breakers...I think it's well made for the money....

Wait until you buy a QO tandem.....thieves.

I limited in using Sq D stuff, the prices are getting out of hand. I switched over to the Cutlet Hammer CH line.

Billy T.
[email protected]

 

[mrb]

Wait until you buy a QO tandem.....thieves.

I limited in using Sq D stuff, the prices are getting out of hand. I switched over to the Cutlet Hammer CH line.

Billy T.
[email protected]

and how do you use tandems in a panel supplying a house where almost everything has to be afci?

 

[Steve from Socal]

MRB,

My answer above may not have been very clear. The number I quoted was at the service entrance. The single phase panel I want to install will be on the secondary side of a 25 Kva single phase 480-240/120 transformer. The transformer will be getting power from the I-line panel. The I-line pane will have a 200 amp feed from one of these.

Steve