Holy vise grip Batman!

[d42jeep]

I picked up these 5WR on Saturday at a garage sale. They had some blue electrical tape on one handle, probably as an identifier. Fortunately, it came right off.
As found.
No more tape and a little cleaner.
-Don

 

[Leviton]

Eternum 961. Made in France. Slip joint locking pliers.









The Eternum pliers are similar to FACOM 501A and 506A pliers. Depending on the year of production and model there are differences in the number of slip joint slots and the 506A pliers have a swivel pad on the lower jaw.

Was curious how these French-made pliers ended up at a small estate sale in Oregon that did not have much of a tool selection. Googled the address and found out that at least one member of the household was a Swiss citizen that traveled a lot.

 

[four.cycle]

oooo looks like they made nice stuff:
Eternum wrenches
Eternum wrenches
Company closed in 2000. Looks like the successor to their line of hacksaws and hacksaw blades is an "Ultratools", but I'm not seeing pliers on the Ultra website.

Eternum / Eternum see Demurger et Cie, Roanne (Loire), France / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...ollection-thread.343867/page-46#post-10323857 /

Demurger / Demurger et Cie, 168 Rue de Charlieu, Roanne (Loire), France / est. 1929 (by Pierre Demurger) closed 2000 / "Eternum" hand tools /

Ultra / UltraTools, 37 Rue des Mathurins 75008, Paris, France / https://www.ultratools.fr/ / est. 1923 / hack saw blades / successor to Demurger et Cie, Roanne, France /

Demurger was a huge operation, claiming to have about 45% of the market share on hacksaw blades in the 1950s.

 

[Steven 33]

Here's a couple of mine

 

[john.k]

Im rarely impressed .......but thats a collection .

 

[Steven 33]

Im rarely impressed .......but thats a collection .

Just one of those right place right time situations on those. Already had more than I could ever need but was able to grab like 200 of them all in one go believe it or not

 

[NYBODYMAN]

@Steven 33 that's quite the collection. I think you have me beat.

I know it's not Vise Grip but I grabbed this off FBMP last week. It's made in Taiwan but it's NOS and I couldn't resist. I've never seen one and didn't know Marson made/sold these.

 

[Steven 33]

@Steven 33 that's quite the collection. I think you have me beat.

I know it's not Vise Grip but I grabbed this off FBMP last week. It's made in Taiwan but it's NOS and I couldn't resist. I've never seen one and didn't know Marson made/sold these.

That one is pretty sweet! And I wouldn't necessarily call it a collection ha. I would like to get rid of every single one of them. It's shrunk down some but still plenty left If you were interested

 

[NYBODYMAN]

That one is pretty sweet! And I wouldn't necessarily call it a collection ha. I would like to get rid of every single one of them. It's shrunk down some but still plenty left If you were interested

Send me a pm with what you have and a price list.

 

[GCS]

Anybody seen them before? Anybody know anything about them?

Didn’t read all the comments, & may have already been said…

My buddy is a retired union “Tinner” and used them for fabrication and welding of duct

 

[Leviton]

Found a small (6-inch) made-in USA Craftsman 45551. Still has the barcode label.
Between the late 40's - 50's hump heads and these more modern pliers, Craftsman certainly sold some of the ugliest locking pliers.






Markings are: Craftsman (R) 45551 Made In USA WF L , and U.S.A. (on the bottom of the adjusting screw knob)

I could not find this in any catalogs.

 

[Leviton]

Found these at a barn sale. Their origin story probably began with a Petersen 8R.
Had to degrease, and then give them a short Evapo-Rust bath.







Factory markings are:
General Cable
and, on the bottom side of the handle, they have the same markings as you would see on a similar vintage of Petersens:
U.S. Pat. No. 2,280,005
U.S. Pat. No. 2,514,130
Other Pat. Pend.

(I did quite a bit of poking around online and didn't find any others like this. Did see a General Cable marked crimp/punch tool on eBay that looked like it was based on a pair of Schollhorn / Bernard pliers.)

 

[larry4406]

Found these at a barn sale. Their origin story probably began with a Petersen 8R.
Had to degrease, and then give them a short Evapo-Rust bath.







Factory markings are:
General Cable
and, on the bottom side of the handle, they have the same markings as you would see on a similar vintage of Petersens:
U.S. Pat. No. 2,280,005
U.S. Pat. No. 2,514,130
Other Pat. Pend.

(I did quite a bit of poking around online and didn't find any others like this. Did see a General Cable marked crimp/punch tool on eBay that looked like it was based on a pair of Schollhorn / Bernard pliers.)

Bizarre

Wondering what and how those were used for.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

^ I'm guessing for sheet metal/welding. Petersen did make a pair with similar jaws, wide, like that, but flat, not angle-ironed. Looks like someone tried to mimic it.

 

[RTM]

The General Cable makes me think it might be for cable work. The slight gap in the center makes it possible to hold a cable perpendicular to the length. The stamping of their name looks very professional, so wondering if a factory custom job

I found General Cable in google books from 1930 to 69, so the patents are in the middle. The overlap of General Cable and vise grip seems to all be snippet view restricted, but nothing looks like a catalog listing anyways.

 

[four.cycle]

(I did quite a bit of poking around online and didn't find any others like this. Did see a General Cable marked crimp/punch tool on eBay that looked like it was based on a pair of Schollhorn / Bernard pliers.)

Could be yet another case of Petersen manufacturing the basic item for the client, who then in turn effected their own modifications to it.
I'm wondering how "General Cable" requires that sort of jaw set up.

 

[Yankee Wrencher]

This Vise-Grip No. 10R locking pliers (10”) belonged to my late father.



Made by Petersen Manufacturing Co. of DeWitt, Nebraska — the original maker of the Vise-Grip brand, I understand, before it was acquired by American Tool/Irwin.

Note the original list price of $2.45.

I understand the Easy Release feature called out on the box dates this unit to ~ 1950s–60s.

 

[Leviton]

This stray cat followed me home. It is a modified 7R. Looks like it was used as some kind of crimper, with the wingnut being used to adjust the final opening.









Markings are:
Petersen/Dewitt-Nebr. USA/Mfg. Co. (<-in the typical logo) -
Vise Grip ® (<- in handshake logo)
7R
Vise-Grip ® (<-on handle)

 

[Beerhippie]

This stray cat followed me home. It is a modified 7R. Looks like it was used as some kind of crimper, with the wingnut being used to adjust the final opening.









Markings are:
Petersen/Dewitt-Nebr. USA/Mfg. Co. (<-in the typical logo) -
Vise Grip ® (<- in handshake logo)
7R
Vise-Grip ® (<-on handle)

Nice welds!

 

[Mintgrun]

Vise grips are a great starting point for custom tooling. I've added a nut to the adjuster for repetitive tasks. It's a handy addition, but there isn't much clearance at the small-opening end of the range.

Those look like a shop-made example of these.

Amazon.com: Eastwood Panel Flanger Adjustable Locking for Rapairing Flush Panels Straigh Flanges 5/8 in. Long X 5/8 in. Wide : Automotive

Buy Eastwood Panel Flanger Adjustable Locking for Rapairing Flush Panels Straigh Flanges 5/8 in. Long X 5/8 in. Wide: Panel Flange Tools - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

 

[Beerhippie]

It's a handy addition, but there isn't much clearance at the small-opening end of the range.

There is if you use a longer bolt and a thinner (lock) nut.

 

[Mintgrun]

I put a two foot pipe over the adjuster-arm on 10" visegrips yesterday, to spin a stuck tie rod end yesterday. Squeezed them shut with all my might to get a bite and then leaned on the pipe. No damage to the pliers and we won the fight.

Visegrips make pretty good hammers too.

 

[Leviton]

Vise grips are a great starting point for custom tooling. I've added a nut to the adjuster for repetitive tasks. It's a handy addition, but there isn't much clearance at the small-opening end of the range.

Those look like a shop-made example of these.

Amazon.com: Eastwood Panel Flanger Adjustable Locking for Rapairing Flush Panels Straigh Flanges 5/8 in. Long X 5/8 in. Wide : Automotive

Buy Eastwood Panel Flanger Adjustable Locking for Rapairing Flush Panels Straigh Flanges 5/8 in. Long X 5/8 in. Wide: Panel Flange Tools - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

@Mintgrun, The Easton panel flanger has smooth faces. Mine has splines on one of the jaws.
Only one way to confirm if mine would work as a flanger without creating spline impressions. I pulled out some sheet metal and gave it a try.
It worked perfectly.
Thank you for the identification! I never would have figured that out.






This shows how a panel flanger works:

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[zimman]

man i type slow

Holy **** man, you do type slow. It took you twenty years to do this. LMAO
Welcome back.
Zim

 

[zimman]

I put a two foot pipe over the adjuster-arm on 10" visegrips yesterday, to spin a stuck tie rod end yesterday. Squeezed them shut with all my might to get a bite and then leaned on the pipe. No damage to the pliers and we won the fight.

Visegrips make pretty good hammers too.

Congratulations from the "Vice Grip Institute of Improvisation and Creative Problem Solving"
LOL
Zim