Hose clamp pliers

[LeGarage]

I really hate these things. Can't get them off, can't get them on.



I found these Facom or Hazet pliers in a video on youtube and they seem to work great.
Has anybody ever worked with these of a model like these and what's your opionion? Are they useful?

 

[CWP1616L]

That's the first time I've ever seen that type of clamp. I wonder what the name of them are. It looks like you've already found your tool.

 

[LeGarage]

clic hose clamps. They **** and are used on European cars (VW, Audi, Peugeot, Opel)

 

[bimmerZ5]

omg!!! I run into those clamps all the time on BMWs... I never knew there was a tool for those... they are a royal pain without a tool like that.. where can I get it?

 

[lametec]

http://chadstoolbox.com/hazet798-2hoseclamppliers.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S4HR3O/?tag=atomicindus08-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008M22LM8/?tag=atomicindus08-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AORL9N6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[stonesfan68]

I've also heard them called Oetiker clamps. They are one-time use clamps, and actually work pretty well as long as you have the correct installation tool. I use a set of diagonal cutters to remove them.

As far as replacing them with screw clamps, there are some places in the engine bay where a standard hose clamp will not fit. Also, I have yet to see a CV boot that is not secured by one of these.

These two pliers are made by Knipex:

Oetiker 14100083 Side Jaw Pincers (formerly 1099)

Oetiker 14100082 Standard Jaw Pincers (formerly 1098)

After you crimp the clamp make sure that there is a 1mm or less gap between the pinch points.

 

[LXCam]

Oetiker is the only term I know of for them. I use those for fuel hats that I build, they work great but imo are meant to be a one time use thing. I got my crimper from McMastercarr.

 

[Dberglind]

They look similar, but if you guys watched the videos, those are not Oetiker clamps. They are reusable.

 

[fourjeepin]

I have these clamps on my 2008 Grand Cherokee. To replace the diesel fuel filter, I have to remove one or two of them. I bought a pair of 'ClicR' pliers. They weren't cheap, but do the job very well. Considering I use them only about every 18 months for a fuel filter change, I probably could have muddled through without them. But like most on this forum, I am a tool hound.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOSE-CLIP-C...ic-R-type-TYPES-CLIC-AND-CLIC-R-/170810795865


Here are the Clic-R, removable clamps...
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]

 

[Rico.]

omg!!! I run into those clamps all the time on BMWs... I never knew there was a tool for those... they are a royal pain without a tool like that.. where can I get it?

Looks like you might be adding a second Facom tool to the kit.... hehe..!

Sorry I can't add a link but check out ultimate garage for Facom clic type hose
clamp pliers. As has been pointed out these are very different to band clamps
which are not reusable and generally used on CV boots.

 

[turdferguson13]

I've seen these used on older land rovers. Once you get used to them they're much nicer because you don't have to get new ones. I use a pair of long flat needle nose pliers and then pry with a small pocket screwdriver to remove. Then I use the same long flat needle nose pliers to squeeze them back together.

 

[e-tek]

Oeteker -

Clik-R -

 

[bimmerZ5]

holy ****... now i have to get pliers for BOTH oetiker and clic-type hose clamps... GJ is a really bad habit...

 

[autodoctor911]

I have had good luck using the straight and right angle plastic push pin pliers for the japanese style push pins on these type of hose clamps.

 

[Vvmvbb]

holy ****... now i have to get pliers for BOTH oetiker and clic-type hose clamps... GJ is a really bad habit...

Nah, you need two kinds of Knipex 1098 & 1099 Oetiker pliers, straight and side.
Glad I could help

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pinch-clamp-pincers/=ni9zwb

 

[bimmerZ5]

Nah, you need two kinds of Knipex 1098 & 1099 Oetiker pliers, straight and side.
Glad I could help

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pinch-clamp-pincers/=ni9zwb

those can be used on the clic-type clamps?

 

[Vvmvbb]

those can be used on the clic-type clamps?

Good question. I really don't know. Worth a shot unless someone has already tried it.

I was just torturing you - not only do you need Oetiker and clic, you need two kinds of Oetiker. And the Oetikers should be Knipex. You know, getting into the spirit of GJ.

Cheers.

 

[bimmerZ5]

Good question. I really don't know. Worth a shot unless someone has already tried it.

I was just torturing you - not only do you need Oetiker and clic, you need two kinds of Oetiker. And the Oetikers should be Knipex. You know, getting into the spirit of GJ.

Cheers.

oh you are so evil... LOL

fine.. enjoy my GJ misery..

 

[Monte]

NWS versions of the Clic-R pliers:

 

[theoldwizard1]

I've also heard them called Oetiker clamps. They are one-time use clamps, ...

Some of them with a similar design but made with a continuous lop of metal, are one time use, but if you watch the video, these are clearly meant to be reused.

 

[b7labelle]

I have these clamps on my 2008 Grand Cherokee. To replace the diesel fuel filter, I have to remove one or two of them. I bought a pair of 'ClicR' pliers. They weren't cheap, but do the job very well. Considering I use them only about every 18 months for a fuel filter change, I probably could have muddled through without them. But like most on this forum, I am a tool hound.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOSE-CLIP-C...ic-R-type-TYPES-CLIC-AND-CLIC-R-/170810795865


Here are the Clic-R, removable clamps...
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]

25 bucks isn't too bad for a pair of pliers that saves you a lot of grief. I'd pick them up if I was in your position.

 

[bimmerZ5]

are these basically the same? :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clic-Clic-R..._Automotive_Tools&hash=item2c6b9db90f&vxp=mtr

 

[MadTinkerer]

I work at a Benz dealer and run across these click style hose clamps all the time. I first purchased a straight pair of pliers as posted above but found in most situations you could not get a straight shot at the clamp. I then ended up buy a pair of these Facom ones.

They have three positions that allow you to find the best angle of attack. I also purchased a Hazet pair that the jaws swivel in any direction.

 

[Sdot]

MAJOR thread revival..

Still relevant? I hate these things. with a passion. Been getting by using Knipex oetiker pliers. chancy

Hazet best? Know Knipex has a pair : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076HP93MX/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Milton Shaw]

I ran into them on the fuel return lines on a T200 Bobcat. I had one start leaking and before the day was over every other piece of that return hose was leaking also. I don't know how they set that close of an expiration date for hoses to fail. These were 1/8 inside diameter hoses so very small clamps.

 

[zmotorsports]

I love Oetiker clamps and use them regularly except on items I plan to take apart often. Special pliers to install and to remove I just use a pair of side cutters to remove them as they cut quite easily.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

You need clic pliers. They will remove and reinstall the clamp. Mine are from Assenmacher

 

[Dave455]

Reading this thread with interest.

Being in the U.K. I seem to come across all manner of weird hose clips. Some work, some don’t, some do but you need expensive tools.

I dislike the clips shown, but there are worse out there, my all time least favourite being the “wire” type (used by Ford in the U.K. for many years, and some others) which, aside from not working very well, also wrecked the hoses they were used on!

I have a simple, and surprisingly inexpensive solution. If you encounter anything weird, simply cut it off and replace it with a good quality “Jubilee” / worm drive clip. I keep a box of most sizes and it works out cheaper than all these special tools!

The only other ones I don’t mind are the “spring” type, but I have the pliers for those!

 

[jsaw]

I have had good luck using the straight and right angle plastic push pin pliers for the japanese style push pins on these type of hose clamps.

I use this style also

 

[Nutria]

I've been using end cutting pliers, with jaws rounded slightly, in place of Oetiker pliers. Meanwhile, I'm keeping an eye out for front-and-side Oetiker pliers at garage sales. The clamps really do work well.

 

[zmotorsports]

I've been using end cutting pliers, with jaws rounded slightly, in place of Oetiker pliers. Meanwhile, I'm keeping an eye out for front-and-side Oetiker pliers at garage sales. The clamps really do work well.

I've wanted a pair of those side and end crimping pliers for a while as well and couldn't find any slightly used but not abused ones so I finally broke down a couple of months ago and purchased a new pair. Now they are my go-to pliers when using Oetiker clamps.

 

[Nutria]

I dislike the clips shown, but there are worse out there, my all time least favourite being the “wire” type (used by Ford in the U.K. for many years, and some others) which, aside from not working very well, also wrecked the hoses they were used on!

I have a simple, and surprisingly inexpensive solution. If you encounter anything weird, simply cut it off and replace it with a good quality “Jubilee” / worm drive clip. I keep a box of most sizes and it works out cheaper than all these special tools!

Dave, I hear you on those Ford wire clamps, and I've taken the same approach and replaced them with worm gear hose clamps. But there are a few places, like drivetrain components, where balance is a major issue, and the Oetikers are good for these applications and often spec'ed by the manufacturers.