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Paul Steele

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I painted my garage floor and unfortunately used an inferior expoxy coating. Now I have hot tire pick up. I would like to fix the pealed areas and then recoat the entire floor with a 100 solids epoxy. Any ideas on what is a good brand and where can I buy a gallon or two? Thanks for the help.
 
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Hi Paul,

I'm also going to be installing epoxy. Could you please tell me what brand you used and how your application process was? Did you wait until the indicated time before letting tires on the new coat?
 
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boba7523: I used Seal Krete's Clear Seal. I found out it is only 50% solid epoxy. Yes, I waited the required times before walking or driving on the floor. It still did not work even after 2 coats. I highly recommend you NOT use this brand. Let me know what you plan to use. Thanks for answering.
 

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You should a few days reading epoxy threads in reverse chron. There are plenty of threads on these topics in painstaking detail over and over.

So you have a **** coating on it. Some of it has picked up. I'd want to know if the coating or your concrete failed. I'd want to know what kind of prep you did in the first place to know the likelihood of more coming up. There is no point in putting good stuff on top of **** if it's just going to come up later. Plus you have to sand it down to be able to recoat.
 

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I would like to fix the pealed areas and then recoat the entire floor with a 100 solids epoxy.

This isn't a good idea unless you just recoat with what you originally put down. 100% solids epoxy is only as good as what it's bonded to. If it's bonded to low quality epoxy that peels, then so will the 100% solids.

Your best best is to grind the floor and remove the inexpensive coating before putting down quality material.
 

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Your coating may have not failed. Your prep job MAY be the culprit.

Solids content has "0" to do with a coating succeeding other than general wear from abrasion, traffic, etc...


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Our recommendation is to remove the failed coating and start over with something like our Armorclad 100% solids coating. Make sure to use the primer, it enhances adhesion.
 
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Paul Steele

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I feel like I did a good prep job. I washed the floor a couple of times with a degreaser, etched the floor till all the sealer was gone, then painted the floor with garage floor paint and put down two coats. Then I added two coats of epoxy sealer.
Question: What is the best method for grinding the floor and removing the sealer? And will that take up the paint as well? Thanks for your reply
 
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here was my prep work. Cleaned the floor twice with degreaser and etched it until all the original sealer was up. I tested the floor with water to ensure that the water would soak in rather than bead up. Then I painted it with two coats of garage floor paint. Finally, finished it with two coats of epoxy sealer. I am not sure what else I could have done regarding prep work.
 
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I painted the floor with a garage epoxy floor paint. The top coat is a sealer that also has epoxy in it. The sealer gives a nice high gloss look and I thought it was to help protect the floor from wear and traffic.
 

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i'm confused. lol
so you primed, painted, and then sealed? all at the same time? what brands of each product applied?
 

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I painted my garage floor and unfortunately used an inferior expoxy coating. Now I have hot tire pick up. I would like to fix the pealed areas and then recoat the entire floor with a 100 solids epoxy. Any ideas on what is a good brand and where can I buy a gallon or two? Thanks for the help.

This isn't a good idea unless you just recoat with what you originally put down. 100% solids epoxy is only as good as what it's bonded to. If it's bonded to low quality epoxy that peels, then so will the 100% solids.

Your best best is to grind the floor and remove the inexpensive coating before putting down quality material.

Shea is absolutely right.

The percentage of solids really dictates you mil film thickness. Ultimately though that is not likely why your floor failed. The floor likely failed because the surface was not properly profiled and / or perhaps and something on it that you were not aware of.

Get a Diamabrush Coatings removal tool. If you can't find one at THD, give me a call and I can help. It will take off what is there and properly prep your floor.

One the floor is prepped and cleaned, apply a primer, good quality epoxy and top coat.
 

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Your coating may have not failed. Your prep job MAY be the culprit.

Solids content has "0" to do with a coating succeeding other than general wear from abrasion, traffic, etc...


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Exactly. Just because a product is 100% solids does not mean it is superior to another lower solids product. It just means that you won't get as much shrinkage while the product cures, compared to a product with lower solids. Now don't get me wrong, there are a lot of 100% solids products that perform great, but there are also a lot of ~60-80% solids epoxies that perform just as well if not better. It's all in the makeup, chemistry, and quality of the epoxy resins used. One of the main reasons to use 100% solids epoxies is to get your desired mil thickness in one coat, instead or 2, 3, or more coats.

here was my prep work. Cleaned the floor twice with degreaser and etched it until all the original sealer was up. I tested the floor with water to ensure that the water would soak in rather than bead up. Then I painted it with two coats of garage floor paint. Finally, finished it with two coats of epoxy sealer. I am not sure what else I could have done regarding prep work.

After de-greasing you should have ground the floor. Sure etching probably profiled the floor a bit, but I doubt it removed the sealer completely to be honest. It's really not a recommended method, but people still use it and I look at it as cheating. I understand grinding isn't always in the budget, so you have to choose SOME method of prep, right? Well save your pennies until you can afford the grind. Epoxy should go straight to concrete, there is no point in using a generic "garage floor paint" as your primer. That only weakens your whole flooring system as it will not adhere to concrete like epoxy will.

If you want to re-coat your floor, grind it all down to concrete and start with a clean slate.

For a primer, I suggest using a quality epoxy with a solids content somewhere in the mid-high 50-60 percentile range. Thin it down an additional 10-15% percent or so before rolling it on. Roll it on just a bit heavier than manufacturer's recommendations (because you thinned it down and more will evaporate). You really want your primer to penetrate INTO the concrete slab and bond with it. Stuff like "garage floor paints" can sometimes just sit on top of the concrete never making a proper bond, and they're quite rubbish.


Proceed with the flooring of your choice once your primer is properly applied. Good luck!
 
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