How would you know the member in question is a 17 yo female?
the way girls are maturing and acting thse days by the time yours is old enough, the boys will be asking you to call her off........
Maybe, treat a girl like a lady, then they might have a recognition of how they should be treated. Whenever I get flowers for my wife, I always bring some for my daughter. I open the car door for both her and her mother, and always try to bolster her "worth" as an individual. Kids will do what they do, but I hope the example that I try to teach, will go a long way, with my son and daughter. I know it works from personal experience...........
When I was a young boy (7), a girl threw a rock at me. I threw one back. My father whipped my ***, and told me to never act violently against any girl. My father was a big man, and I always remember the lesson. As a teenager when my sweetheart would be non-rational, I always remembered what my father "taught" me, and let them be their own person without anger or violence. My dad always said, save the *** kicking for some A-hole dude, never a woman.
Prepare your kids for their future, as much as you can, and cross your fingers. If just half of it sticks, they might remember if they get into a bind.
I figured if women were not responding to being treated like a lady, maybe a young girl would become a great woman. So far I am right, but years ago, I didn't know what to expect really. My wife has always been a good mother, a good partner, and grateful for all of my efforts. Older women my age used to give me a look, like I was wrong for being with someone younger than me 
, but they didn't have what it takes, and my wife did, soo..................the way girls are maturing and acting thse days by the time yours is old enough, the boys will be asking you to call her off........
the way girls are maturing and acting thse days by the time yours is old enough, the boys will be asking you to call her off........
I only used your post as an example - I totally did not mean to imply anything negative in any way.stuey, the rest of those that left probably had made jaded staements due to age and i saw racoon"s as a pleasnt diversion by her youthful outlook.........