Jay41
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Who on this forum actually works in the industry?
20+ year tech. here
About 60/40 commercial/residential.
20+ year tech. here
About 60/40 commercial/residential.
HVAC techs/installers/owners
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rickairmedic
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Jay owner/tech/installer here 20 years in the industry as well.
Rick
Rick
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xravenx
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Only do commercial stuff, was a tech/installer for 24 years, business owner for the last 9 years. Still get out in the field once in a while........way better then the office.
John
John
Thanks for the replies guys.
Don't mention it. And if you need any advice, like how to install a t-stat, we are here for you.
xrdad
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Any HVAC guys in the Toronto area looking to do a weekend A/C install this year? I'm also looking for a gas heater for my shop.. if someone knows of a bargain?
Yes, I'm cheap and broke.. bad combination.
Yes, I'm cheap and broke.. bad combination.
rickairmedic
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lol, it's always the t-stat.
That does seem to be the one most goofed up by homeowners before they call us
.Rick
Frank The Plumber
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If some one called me a tech I'd slap them. The kid at Jiffy Lube is a tech. I'm a mechanical contractor. Plumbing and Piping Mechanic / craft tradesman.
59 wagon man
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piping mechanic? thats a new one on me been doing it 35 yrs been called a steamfitter ,pipefitter, plumber,journeyman, master plumber tradesman ,my guys in the field can be referred to as technicians but never a piping mechanic. anything "mechanic"= auto related just my .02
rickairmedic
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Frank that kinda sounds like that other fancy Title um Sanitation engineer
. We ued ta call em da garbage man and you would be Da Plumba . I have no problems being a Heating and Air Technician .Rick
ambenz
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HVAC Automation Service Tech....automate all the mechanics so you can see room temps and control boilers, chillers, and Air Handlers from anywhere on the world wide web...if, you know the password..LOL!
People say things like that in my field as well (electrical). I say, call me anything you want as long as those checks show up! LOL!
rickairmedic
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People say things like that in my field as well (electrical). I say, call me anything you want as long as those checks show up! LOL!
You mean as long as the check clears right
.Rick
neverenoughtools
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You'd think there might be 1 or 2 guys from our neck of the woods on here......perhaps you should inquire on the Canadian site as well.
Ron Lombardo
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3rd generation Plumber Pipefitter, 27 years now Mechanical Contractor Owner.
Here's an AC question where it might be easy for you guys to save me (at least some) aggravation. My house has central AC, not sure how old. At the end of last season, it failed. The symptoms were this: the outside compressor would switch on and operate normally (I'd replaced the capacitor for that about a year prior). But then the inside-the-house blower would not kick in at all. I suspect this means I'm low on freon -- that there's a pressure switch that's not allowing the furnace blower to move air over the evaporator.
The same blower is working normally with the heating system.
Any tricks I should try or components I should look at before I call one of you pros?
The same blower is working normally with the heating system.
Any tricks I should try or components I should look at before I call one of you pros?
rickairmedic
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Jack chances are you have a bad fan relay on the cooling side . I would bet if you can get me a model number and serial number and the make of your furnace I can get a part number for you .
Rick
.Rick
rickairmedic
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Mike the T-stat is not always the answer . Most often if the fan works in heating mode and also works in fan on the culprit is a relay in the furnace that is energised when in cooling mode . The contacts in the relay go bad or become corroded and the relay stops working . I had an old carrier furnace with this issue just last week and see it way more often than I do a bad T-stat.
Rick
Rick
The Hot Rod Grille
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I retired July 31, 2009 at age 56 after 34 years in R&D for a major chemical company. I will graduate in June after completing a pair of two year programs in Electrical Technology (will receive my Journeyman License) and HVAC/Refrigeration. I have already passed my EPA 608 Universal Certification and the 609 Automotive Certification. My objective is to be able to service my own equipment and possibly help family and friends. My soda fountain and vintage Pepsi machines use R-12 and since I have purchased a Snap-On recovery unit, I will be able to keep them original and operating for many years to come!
Jim
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xravenx
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If you switch the thermostat to "fan on" and the fan won't start, reach in the furnace and spin the blower wheel, if it starts the run capacitor is bad.
John
John
Thanks, rickairmedic. And everyone else. (And I apologize for diluting the thread with a tech issue. I'll delete it later to keep the thread only about HVAC guys who are on GJ.)
The furnace is a Goodman model GMP100-4. (The Evaporator is an ADP model HA05248C175B252084.) Here's a cell phone picture of the plate for the furnace:
Here's the evaporator plate:
The furnace is a Goodman model GMP100-4. (The Evaporator is an ADP model HA05248C175B252084.) Here's a cell phone picture of the plate for the furnace:
Here's the evaporator plate:
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rickairmedic
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Ok Jack you have a 100,000 BTU furnace and a 4 ton Air conditioning system . I sell Goodman products . I will check with my supplier in the morning and verify the location of the blower relay ( although I am pretty sure on that model it is on the furnace control board ) . I will also verify that that is your problem but I am betting on it . The good news is in the meantime if you need AC you should be able to switch the thermostat from auto to on and get the blower to run it will just run the blower full time instead of just running it while the AC or Heat is on . I have an install going tomorrow so it will most likely be 6PM or so eastern before I get back to you on it Jack.
Oh yeah your system was installed in 1997 or early 1998.
One more thing if you get a chance tonight pull the lower door off of the furnace where the blower motor is and see if you can get me a picture of the control board and I can most likely tell you where to put your test leads to make sure it is the fan relay.
Rick
Rick
. I sell Goodman products . I will check with my supplier in the morning and verify the location of the blower relay ( although I am pretty sure on that model it is on the furnace control board ) . I will also verify that that is your problem but I am betting on it . The good news is in the meantime if you need AC you should be able to switch the thermostat from auto to on and get the blower to run it will just run the blower full time instead of just running it while the AC or Heat is on . I have an install going tomorrow so it will most likely be 6PM or so eastern before I get back to you on it Jack.Oh yeah your system was installed in 1997 or early 1998
.One more thing if you get a chance tonight pull the lower door off of the furnace where the blower motor is and see if you can get me a picture of the control board and I can most likely tell you where to put your test leads to make sure it is the fan relay
.Rick
Rick
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Hog Rider
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Hog-Rider here. 25 year installer/tech/salesman/shopboy.
Maybe Rick, but how is a HO supposed to check the relay? Obviously if he turns it to fan on and the fan comes on it's the stat. If it doesn't it could be the relay but the stat is at least ruled out.
rickairmedic
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I PM'd Jack instructions on testing the relay . Also the fan on position can bypass the cooling relay on the board thus meaning he has a new stat and still no AC.
Rick
. Also the fan on position can bypass the cooling relay on the board thus meaning he has a new stat and still no AC.Rick
I will also verify that that is your problem but I am betting on it
Ummm Rick, if you are sure it's the relay, why would you think turning the fan switch to "fan on" is going to run the fan? If the relay on the board has failed, turning the switch to on is going to do nothing.
I PM'd Jack instructions on testing the relay
Rick
I think you are mistaken. If I'm understanding you.
rickairmedic
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Mike although it could go either way there are tests I will walk Jack through before he buys a new control board or Tstat to make sure we get the right component. When I chatted with him through PM earlier he noted that it was a perfect 72* currently at his home and he just wanted to work through this issue before it hits 110* . Jack would not be the first member I have walked through diagnostics on their systems long distance and I asure you Mike I will make sure we have the right part before we go buying any .
Rick
. Jack would not be the first member I have walked through diagnostics on their systems long distance and I asure you Mike I will make sure we have the right part before we go buying any .Rick
Garage5.9
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HVAC Automation Service Tech....automate all the mechanics so you can see room temps and control boilers, chillers, and Air Handlers from anywhere on the world wide web...if, you know the password..LOL!
Thats pretty cool and scary at the same time. Imagine what you could do if some one pissed you off in said building.
Mike although it could go either way there are tests I will walk Jack through before he buys a new control board or Tstat to make sure we get the right component. When I chatted with him through PM earlier he noted that it was a perfect 72* currently at his home and he just wanted to work through this issue before it hits 110*
Rick
I'm not breaking your balls Rick, but if the fan relay on the board is failed, turning the stat to fan on is not going to bypass the relay. Wasn't sure I was understanding you correctly.