I cant figure this out, please help

[Gnfantic]

Hey guys, I installed the plywood walls in my garage and now wiring up the outlets. I used #6ga 3 way wire for my 50 amp outlets (welders) and piggy backed the outlets around the garage so I can move my welding cart around if needed. Problem is all the 240 volt 50 amp outlets I see only have room for 1 wire per a terminal. How do I connect the other wire? I am attaching a pic of one of the outlets just in case I am not explaining it properly.

thanks guys!

 

[930dreamer]

Sounds like you would need to make a jumper, ie 3 wire in, 1 wire out. I don't know if it's code.

 

[Gnfantic]

yeah, The damn 4x4 box doesnt have enough room for 3 polaris's. this ***** .

 

[TRWham]

How about using box extensions?

 

[ard]

Shoulda used deep boxes, even larger than 4x4 w a plaster ring down to 4x4.’

That plywood screwed on????

 

[driftpin]

yeah, The damn 4x4 box doesnt have enough room for 3 polaris's. this ***** .

Can't you use a box extension, and/or a deep box? I'm not an electrician.

 

[Gnfantic]

I would have to take down about 10 sheets of plywood and alot of screws. If have to do it, what do I install 6x6 box and use polaris connections?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Hey guys, I installed the plywood walls in my garage and now wiring up the outlets. I used #6ga 3 way wire for my 50 amp outlets (welders) and piggy backed the outlets around the garage so I can move my welding cart around if needed. Problem is all the 240 volt 50 amp outlets I see only have room for 1 wire per a terminal. How do I connect the other wire? I am attaching a pic of one of the outlets just in case I am not explaining it properly.

thanks guys!

You will not find a nema outlet that is rated for more than one wire per lug.

Have to use blue wire nuts, split bolts or polaris connectors.

 

[Gnfantic]

I doubt blue wire nuts can handle 3 6ga wires

 

[wyliesdiesels]

I doubt blue wire nuts can handle 3 6ga wires

Yeah youre right.

Max 2 #6

 

[Gnfantic]

Well, look what we have here. for shits and giggles I got 2 #6 wires to see if they fit and they do.. Is this dangerous?? UN-acceptable? I am only be using the welder for this line, no other equipment.


thanks guys

 

[Gnfantic]

test fit.

 

[sparky 1971]

I would have to take down about 10 sheets of plywood and alot of screws. If have to do it, what do I install 6x6 box and use polaris connections?

Get a 4 11/16" X 2 1/8" deep box. If it were me, I would get a 2 gang 1 1/4" raised mud ring and mount the box so the face of the ring is flush with the wall. The big box stores around me don't have the mud rings, that's a supply house item. I do the same thing with range receptacles, but use deep 4X4 boxes since there are no splices.

 

[Norcal]

test fit.

The receptacles terminals are not rated/listed for 2 conductors, that is the problem.

 

[sparky 1971]

test fit.

Don't do that. Get a bigger box and pig tail the wires using split bolts. Even if two wires under a terminal was allowed, you would play hell getting everything stuffed into that handy box.

 

[frankush]

Don't do that. Get a bigger box and pig tail the wires using split bolts. Even if two wires under a terminal was allowed, you would play hell getting everything stuffed into that handy box.

Good advice here. X2 on the 4-11/16 box and ring.

 

[Gnfantic]

10/4, thanks guys. Live and learn

 

[coljar]

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I'm doing basically the same as you, but using these on my #6 wire to jump to the other outlet.

 

[yatg]

Too late now, but you could have had a central junction box and did a home run from each receptacle box to it, then make all your connections in one place on a distribution block.

 

[ard]

Too late now, but you could have had a central junction box and did a home run from each receptacle box to it,

Like a subpanel? maybe a breaker for each home run?

 

[pattenp]

Just a friendly FYI, if your state/locality has adopted the International Residential Code (IRC), which some states have, section E3702.5 does not allow for a multiple outlet circuit to be over 20A. I got surprised by this code here in Virginai when I applied for an electrical permit to wire my home garage/shop and I was showing a 50A multioutlet circuit. I ended up with one 50A outlet and use a long extension cord for my welder.

Edit: I believe Ohio has adopted the IRC. Appears New York state adopted the IRC, but New York City as an exception to the IRC uses the NEC for electrical.

Look here: https://up.codes/?s

 

[BB Sig]

Add Florida to that list.... I just checked.

Barry
North Florida