I love Snap-On tools ..BUT

[JazzBlueRT]

Obviously you are taking my comments out of context. First, I did not blame substandard tools for my injuries, I simply meant that I try to use tools that are of a quality that would prevent injuries. It is not an illogical conclusion to a preventable event. It was a freak accident that I paid for and learned from.
Second, I am not advocating the use of a jack to support a vehicle, I personally would never work on a vehicle supported only by a jack.
Third, I did not own the shop where my accident occurred so it would not be possible for me to enforce work practices through firing.

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I really do not care if you think Snap On tools will spare you an occasional boo-boo. I do care about actual safety issues and no tool will protect anyone from improper use. That being said, if we are both in agreement that everyone should always use jackstands under any jack (particularly hydraulic), then we have no controversy.

 

[Olafur]

Yeah, but Toptul hates America. They don't like making common sizes found here such as 13, 15, & 18 mm and they don't want to even to try to sell here by establishing a distribution center.

Yes I have read about the distribution problem in the US here on G.J
Here, several years ago, an established local import company went to Taiwan and made a deal with Toptul. Then they priced them pretty close to the bottom of the spectrum side by side price wise with no name bottom line tools. I don't have the actual number but from what I have seen around me I guess their market share in mechanics hand tools is close to 80%. You see Toptul cabinets everywhere..

And BTW
I think the lack of the sizes you mention is limited to very few sets. The cabinet I posted has all these sizes in sockets and wrenches.

 

[nbruno]

I really do not care if you think Snap On tools will spare you an occasional boo-boo. I do care about actual safety issues and no tool will protect anyone from improper use. That being said, if we are both in agreement that everyone should always use jackstands under any jack (particularly hydraulic), then we have no controversy.

Boo-boos I can deal with, injuries are a different story all together. Personally, I take every precaution possible to avoid injuries and I believe that common sense is first and foremost. Quality tools and equipment are a priority.
And yes, I use jackstands and wheel chocks any time I'm using a hydraulic jack.
I guess we have no controversy.


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[Snakebyt]

I cant justify the price of alot of tools from my SO dealer, other ones i will gladly pay the extra money for. I have several different brands, SO, HF, Craftsman, Husky. I have a really good dealer IMO, if i really need something or something replaced right then and there, he will either tell me where he is at and meet me, or he will swing by before the end of the day. And all that considering that i dont buy alot from him, but he treats all his customers well

 

[wildlyfe200]

Home mechanic/weekend warrior here and I can whole heartedly agree snap on is overpriced. Though in the last couple weeks I have upgraded all my chrome to snap-on all 1/2 to 3/8 sockets and ratchets torx and Allen sockets as well and wrenches. I am feeling kinda butthurt after spending that much cash. I bought everything, except some odds and ends, on eBay brand new or excellent condition at 30-60% of price. I will tell you though I smile when I open my socket drawer. I still have my craftsman USA 299pc mechanics set and it will still get used anywhere I think I may lose a socket or if I have to work in the rain or take tools anywhere. Snap on stays home.

Don'tworry 3/8 SAE shallow are on their way.

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[Houe]

Re: I love SnapOn tools ..BUT

It's definitely a set of tools that falls on the "How-often-will-I-use-these-to-justify-the-cost" category. I'd assume they fall short compared to other tools that do justify the cost.

So your saying stubby wrenches come up short, huh?

 

[wildlyfe200]

Re: I love SnapOn tools ..BUT

So your saying stubby wrenches come up short, huh?

Take a cutting wheel to your snap on flank drive and cut in half if you need a stubby.

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[Heavy Metal Doctor]

I got this flier today and found these terminal tools and thought of this discussion. Personally, I'd use 'em a lot and love to have good ones that aren't essentially throw-away plastic ****. I'd easily pay 10 or 12 bucks a piece for good quality w/lifetime warranty, but 25 each is a bit much!....I'll probably continue to buy multi-packs of the cheap plastic ones off Amazon for a few dollars at a time.

...On the other hand, as much as the cheap tools get screwed up and thrown away / replaced, maybe I would be warrantying out these things often enough that 150 bucks ain't too bad if I keep getting free replacements

 

[HanShotFirst]

No doubt Snap On's quality is always the best, or damn close to the best. Their service is top notch too. For some, those two just plain seal the deal; and they're willing to pay what it takes to have Snap On.

Even way back when I was professionally turning wrenches, Snap On never made economic sense to me. Now perhaps my perception was jaded because I knew I wasn’t going to be wrenching for a career; it was just a job for a year or two for me. FOR ME, with most tools, I own multiples so I didn’t really “need” the service of a Snap On truck. Like many, if I broke a tool, that was my signal to buy higher quality next time. I started with US Craftsman and upgraded when I could afford to, buying a mix of Matco and SK. At that time my Matco guy also sold SK (I doubt Matco appreciated that), and he often had used Matco stuff…He was also a great guy, so I liked buying from him. But I wasn’t buying from him because I thought I needed truck service, but because they were good tools and the prices were right.

I never NEEDED a tool truck. I lost far more tools (or had them stolen) than I ever warranty’d out. If something broke, I either had a second one on hand, or at home, or could borrow something to finish the day out. Then I would bring something from home to get me by until my upgraded tool arrived. Most of my broken tools were US Craftsman, so I swapped out at Sears, but then I would order up something from SK to replace it.

But I saw guys get in REALLY DEEP to their Snap On dealers, and there was no way I was going to do that.

Many of those guys are now retiring and they're getting about 40-50% of what they paid for their tools. To me, even re-selling the numbers just don't make sense to me.

Although they did better than I did...My work box was stolen in 1995; so I have NOTHING to show for my investment. Since then I have pieced together tools as I needed them. Started with Harbor Freight to get me some tools quick, and then upgraded most of them over the years.