Icon vs Tekton combination wrenches

[cfk]

I know, another one of these threads… but I haven’t seen one that’s newer than a couple years old, so I wanted to see if there are any new opinions.

In reading the old threads on this site, it seems like tekton had a pretty large following, and get very good reviews on sites like Amazon. But my hesitation is that they don’t seem to score well on Torque Test Channel and Project Farm tests. Although those tests are probably splitting hairs for DIY and hobbyist guys like myself, they definitely serve as some sort of comparison..

I haven’t seen the standard icons tested on those channels, but I know the anti-slip ones are the same as Carlyle wrenches (both Infar), and I assume the standard icons are also the same as Carlyles as well, which do score high in those tests.

Few thoughts in my head.. I’ve seen videos that show that Icons tolerances and slop seem to be better than Tektons.

Icons are longer, which is nice. I’m unsure how the thickness of them compares..

Tektons are cheaper and their sets have more wrenches in them. I have to buy 2 Icon sets to get 6-22mm and spend close to $200 (without coupons/sales), but I can get 8-22mm in tektons for $70. I also like that I can get individual Tektons.

Are Icons overhyped, over-marketed, and overpriced, which makes them seem nicer than they maybe are? Are Tekton’s cheap price and availability making up for the fact that they are inferior performers? Maybe some of both? Both brands seem to have fanboys and haters.

 

[Callelle]

My opinion of Tekton has always been that they are just about the most bare bones but good quality tools you can get. Nothing special or fancy about them, and they do their job well. I put Icon on par with them, and possibly even a bit higher on the list, I like the anti slip features of their wrenches. There's also the fact that as long as a store is near to you, you can just go warranty something out quicker than waiting on mail.

Both are good solid choices, I don't think Icon is over-hyped or priced, and even though they are basically copy cats, they copy good tools and do a good job at it.

 

[Pexto]

The Carlyle are available on ebay from seller "ravenark" for amazing prices. I can't say that I've used mine much yet (just got 'em last week), but they sure look purty, and they seem to be well-liked here on GJ.

 

[Rabid Badger]

I didn't think Tekton did all that bad in the TTC testing. They beat out standard Snap-Ons and the only wrenches to beat them by more than a few percent (that weren't stupidly thick) were the Wright and Flank Drive Plus. They're also nice and hard for good wear resistance.

 

[M635_Guy]

I know, another one of these threads… but I haven’t seen one that’s newer than a couple years old, so I wanted to see if there are any new opinions.

In reading the old threads on this site, it seems like tekton had a pretty large following, and get very good reviews on sites like Amazon. But my hesitation is that they don’t seem to score well on Torque Test Channel and Project Farm tests. Although those tests are probably splitting hairs for DIY and hobbyist guys like myself, they definitely serve as some sort of comparison..

I haven’t seen the standard icons tested on those channels, but I know the anti-slip ones are the same as Carlyle wrenches (both Infar), and I assume the standard icons are also the same as Carlyles as well, which do score high in those tests.

Few thoughts in my head.. I’ve seen videos that show that Icons tolerances and slop seem to be better than Tektons.

Icons are longer, which is nice. I’m unsure how the thickness of them compares..

Tektons are cheaper and their sets have more wrenches in them. I have to buy 2 Icon sets to get 6-22mm and spend close to $200 (without coupons/sales), but I can get 8-22mm in tektons for $70. I also like that I can get individual Tektons.

Are Icons overhyped, over-marketed, and overpriced, which makes them seem nicer than they maybe are? Are Tekton’s cheap price and availability making up for the fact that they are inferior performers? Maybe some of both? Both brands seem to have fanboys and haters.

Glad to see you here (assuming you're here from the Reddit discussion)

I didn't measure the Icon vs. Tekton for thickness, but I think Tekton is a bit thinner than the Icon, which seems to contribute to spreading in the TTC videos.

The Tektons never failed me, but I do like my Icons more.

Interested to hear what the rest of GJ says.

 

[Black300zx]

I have the Icon deep-offset DBE metric set and the Tekton 6mm-24mm combination set in my drawer. Very happy with both. Used an assortment of both sets to R&R the shocks on my F150 the other weekend and they both got the job done while feeling good in the hand. That included hammering undersized wrenches onto rotted top shock nuts to crack them loose.

Both are great options for a home garage (imo). They're similar enough for me that I'd basically make the decision based on how quickly you'd need to warranty out a tool if it broke. If you have spares and can wait to mail a Tekton in for warranty, I'd go that route. If being able to drive to HF to warranty it out is valuable to you, then it might be worth it to pay extra for Icon.

 

[Wamsutta]

Icons are longer, which is nice. I’m unsure how the thickness of them compares..

Watch out for sharp square corners on the beam. That's always a deal breaker for me.

 

[Steve_P]

I have the Icon deep-offset DBE metric set and the Tekton 6mm-24mm combination set in my drawer. Very happy with both. Used an assortment of both sets to R&R the shocks on my F150 the other weekend and they both got the job done while feeling good in the hand. That included hammering undersized wrenches onto rotted top shock nuts to crack them loose.

Both are great options for a home garage (imo). They're similar enough for me that I'd basically make the decision based on how quickly you'd need to warranty out a tool if it broke. If you have spares and can wait to mail a Tekton in for warranty, I'd go that route. If being able to drive to HF to warranty it out is valuable to you, then it might be worth it to pay extra for Icon.

Realistically, why would you need to warranty a non-ratcheting wrench? If you broke it, you certainly abused it with a pipe, etc, and shouldn't expect a warranty.

 

[cfk]

Glad to see you here (assuming you're here from the Reddit discussion)

I didn't measure the Icon vs. Tekton for thickness, but I think Tekton is a bit thinner than the Icon, which seems to contribute to spreading in the TTC videos.

The Tektons never failed me, but I do like my Icons more.

Interested to hear what the rest of GJ says.

Yep! Been here off and on for a while, mostly discussing information pertaining to my shop build a couple years ago, but now my recent wrench dilemma has me here asking questions again..

I thought I had my life all figured out until I bought a bigger toolbox and needed to start filling in some empty space

 

[Black300zx]

Realistically, why would you need to warranty a non-ratcheting wrench? If you broke it, you certainly abused it with a pipe, etc, and shouldn't expect a warranty.

I frankly don't know, I've never had to warranty a tool and I probably never will. Just saying that if someone was concerned with ease of warranty, that might be the deciding factor. After all, that's one of the common arguments for buying high-end lifetime warranty tools.

 

[M635_Guy]

Realistically, why would you need to warranty a non-ratcheting wrench? If you broke it, you certainly abused it with a pipe, etc, and shouldn't expect a warranty.

I mean, I never advocate abusing tools, try to use the right tool for the job, etc., but if I manage to break one, unless I was stuck and had to push something way beyond its limits, I'm not going to have any issues going to HF and getting a replacement. I'm not sure that will ever happen - I'm not a pro (obv) so I tend to stop if I think I'm going to break something.

Yep! Been here off and on for a while, mostly discussing information pertaining to my shop build a couple years ago, but now my recent wrench dilemma has me here asking questions again..

I thought I had my life all figured out until I bought a bigger toolbox and needed to start filling in some empty space

Few things are more financially threatening than empty space in a tool box...

 

[DerekV]

Realistically, why would you need to warranty a non-ratcheting wrench?

Peeling/flaking chrome

 

[MWEric]

The Carlyle are available on ebay from seller "ravenark" for amazing prices. I can't say that I've used mine much yet (just got 'em last week), but they sure look purty, and they seem to be well-liked here on GJ.

This…….I got the large SAE set for $100. Cannot beat these sets for the money.

 

[GeoBruin]

This…….I got the large SAE set for $100. Cannot beat these sets for the money.

The description on that says it only goes through 3/4". Did you get the full set through 1-1/4?

 

[MWEric]

The description on that says it only goes through 3/4". Did you get the full set through 1-1/4?

Yes

 

[MWEric]

The description on that says it only goes through 3/4". Did you get the full set through 1-1/4?

I didn’t even notice that in the description. But yes it is the big set. I just posted a pic of it in the show new tools thread.

 

[Brett in KS]

I just bought both the metric & SAE sets from "ravenark" yesterday. I already have full sets of Carlyle wrenches, these will be for a second toolbox in a different truck. You just can't beat that price for those sets. I really, really like my Carlyle wrenches. I swear those sets were $80 a couple of weeks ago, but cant prove it. But still, at $100 & free shipping.......

 

[LWB]

Peeling/flaking chrome

You can add spreading the open end,

 

[Komet]

They're more similar than they're different. Imo, Icon has nicer chrome, but it's only a good deal when it's 20% off. If you're not a pro, they will both outlast you.

My last wrench purchase was a bunch of random USA brands from Cripe Distributing for below Taiwan prices, I really like the Armstrong stuff and regret nothing.

 

[Fedwrench]

Are Icons overhyped, over-marketed, and overpriced, which makes them seem nicer than they maybe are? Are Tekton’s cheap price and availability making up for the fact that they are inferior performers? Maybe some of both? Both brands seem to have fanboys and haters.

I don't think the Icons are overhyped, or over priced when on sale or with a coupon. I think the Icons are finished nicer than the Tektons because, Icon is trying to win a beauty contest with Snap on
Both brands of wrenches will serve you well. The Tektons are a great value. Don't forget that if you purchase from Tekton.com you get free shipping and 10% back in rewards points that spend like cash on future orders. The only downside with the Tektons is that they're not a long pattern wrench. They're longer than a Craftsman raised panel wrench but, not as long as a long pattern series. Take a 13mm combination wrench for example. A typical long pattern would have an overall length of approximately 8 inches. The Tekton comes in at 7 ish. Do you need that extra inch? only you can answer that. Another great advantage Tekton offers, is their wide range of open stock individual wrench sizes available should you misplace a wrench or need more than one of a particular size. I would never consider a Tekton combination wrench to be a subpar performer. Good luck in your quest

 

[Wamsutta]

Icon is trying to win a beauty contest with Snap on

They can try but they'll never win the authenticity contest.

 

[IRQVET]

Icon is pretty good, Tekton is pretty good. Both will serve a DIY’er very well. But personally why I shy away from Icon in favor of Tekton is the fact that if I loose something out of set, its easy and cheap to replace. Something that cannot currently be said about Icon. And for the fact that I loose **** all the time, carting tools between my garage, my race trailer, and the race track. So it was a pretty big decision factor for me and why I didn’t consider Icon.

 

[AEAdam]

Just looking at the TTCs open end test results. The Tekton open ends were sloppy fitting and that alone hurt their score. Steel seemed good. I think Icon is the better choice for tighter fit, good steel/processing, and long length.

I also prefer the Snap on form factor, maybe because I’ve grown accustomed to it. I also would recommend their version of Snap Ons high performance double box ends. I think I’d buy both sets and get used to them, then slowly swap them out for Snap On, or maybe not depending on what I was working on.

my problem is, I worked with crappy combos for 20 yrs and learned to distrust them to the point of not using them. I didn’t understand what good wrenches were until I switched to Snap On. I can’t say for certain if I‘d prefer Tekton over Icon. I can say, good wrenches are like completely different tools compared to cheap wrenches. Get the best wrench set you can if you are serious about what you are working on.

edit: I advise against buying large wrench sets. As great as combination wrenches are, they have their practical limitations. I would start with 10-19mm and see how you do. Add 8mm later.

 

[M635_Guy]

They can try but they'll never win the authenticity contest.

Meh - all the marketing BS (in both directions), etc. doesn't exist when I'm working on something.

Having had both, I like the Tektons OK, and they never failed me or rounded anything off, but they were kinda sloppy. The Icons aren't. My Hazet set has the tightest tolerance of the stuff I have around, but are a little short (some sizes more than others for some reason).

I sold the Tektons, so can't compare them now, but you can kinda see some of the difference in how the box end is executed and how the size marking is executed:

No hate for the Tektons - they're great value-for-money and I have every confidence in their customer service - but the Icons are nicer wrenches IMHO.

Icon is pretty good, Tekton is pretty good. Both will serve a DIY’er very well. But personally why I shy away from Icon in favor of Tekton is the fact that if I loose something out of set, its easy and cheap to replace. Something that cannot currently be said about Icon. And for the fact that I loose **** all the time, carting tools between my garage, my race trailer, and the race track. So it was a pretty big decision factor for me and why I didn’t consider Icon.

You can call HF's spare parts department and order essentially anything. My understanding is it's very affordable/etc. (i.e. they're not gouging for shipping or jacking the price for a single).

Why they make it so hard to do that is a mystery to me.

 

[F-22]

Icons look nicer. The more rounded head should probably be stronger and you say TTC confirmed that too. The box end seems to have less of a chamfer too which is generally preferred. Icon copies Snap On quite closely, and who's to say that the Snap On design isn't better, even if the material is not quite there...


But ultimately I'd go with the 70$ set. I'm sure it's good enough. I would not be concerned with max torque. For the rare occasion you do might need that, get a general USAG set of the RBRT wrenches. It cost me 90€ and should surely be among the top 3 anti slip wrenches on the market (if not the best). For general usage any decent set of wrenches is fine. I'd probably go for toptul here in Europe - 140€ for a complete set from 6 to 32mm.

 

[Taco Truck]

This…….I got the large SAE set for $100. Cannot beat these sets for the money.

I just bought a set of SAE Wrightgrips that go from 3/8" to 1 1/4", but I'm tempted to snag this set and the metric set and sell the Wrights. We'll see. To complicate matters, my wife was messing around with my 7/8" Wrightgrip yesterday and loved it even more than my Blue Point, so I may receive some pushback if I try to sell them.

 

[Taco Truck]

They're more similar than they're different. Imo, Icon has nicer chrome, but it's only a good deal when it's 20% off. If you're not a pro, they will both outlast you.

My last wrench purchase was a bunch of random USA brands from Cripe Distributing for below Taiwan prices, I really like the Armstrong stuff and regret nothing.

I bought a 24mm Armstrong from Cripe years ago to add to my Williams set for about five bucks. I couldn't believe I could get such a nice wrench for so cheap. Unfortunately, I wasn't paying attention when I bought it and bought a six point which may have had something to do with the price. I also have a 19mm Craftsman Professional wrench that I believe was made by Armstrong. Also a fantastic wrench. I wish I had bought more when they were more easily available.

 

[Hohn]

As a fan of both Icon and Tekton, I have thoughts on this.

I wouldn't say Icons are overhyped or overpriced. Valuation is an inherently personal assessment. I've bought a LOT of icon stuff in the last two years.

I see both of them as well made Taiwanese tools. I'd expect either to work very well for most use cases. Perhaps the decision turns on how likely it is that you will need the tiny bit of extra length of the Icon? Or the ~10% better peak grip of the open end? Tekton doesn't offer any kind of enhanced anti-slip open end. Keep in mind that the TTC testing is on super-soft coupling nuts. Is the real world difference on normal fasteners as significant?

The Tekton box end seemed about as capable as the Wright in the PF testing with similar slop. Not bad company to be in.

ICON Anti slip set 1/4"- 1" is $130.
TEKTON (regular "pro slip"? design) 1/4" to 1" is $80.
Wrightgrip 2.0 3/8" to 3/4" is $80 from HJE. Add Tektons to fill in from 13/16 to 1" for an additional $51. Total cost: $131.


Now ask yourself if the Icon set is better than the Wright+Tekton hybrid set for the same money? IMO, if I need to ensure no slip with an open end, it's on small hexes that are super easy to round off. Once you get into larger sizes, the open capability (and overall "slop" factor) is far less critical.

For my metric load out, I did the Wright+Tekton with a split at 19mm being my largest Wright. To my way of thinking, this is a superior value compared to an all-Icon set. (I have Icon stubbies and offsets that are excellent but those aren't bread and butter tools like full size combos are).

I know, another one of these threads… but I haven’t seen one that’s newer than a couple years old, so I wanted to see if there are any new opinions.

In reading the old threads on this site, it seems like tekton had a pretty large following, and get very good reviews on sites like Amazon. But my hesitation is that they don’t seem to score well on Torque Test Channel and Project Farm tests. Although those tests are probably splitting hairs for DIY and hobbyist guys like myself, they definitely serve as some sort of comparison..

I haven’t seen the standard icons tested on those channels, but I know the anti-slip ones are the same as Carlyle wrenches (both Infar), and I assume the standard icons are also the same as Carlyles as well, which do score high in those tests.

Few thoughts in my head.. I’ve seen videos that show that Icons tolerances and slop seem to be better than Tektons.

Icons are longer, which is nice. I’m unsure how the thickness of them compares..

Tektons are cheaper and their sets have more wrenches in them. I have to buy 2 Icon sets to get 6-22mm and spend close to $200 (without coupons/sales), but I can get 8-22mm in tektons for $70. I also like that I can get individual Tektons.

Are Icons overhyped, over-marketed, and overpriced, which makes them seem nicer than they maybe are? Are Tekton’s cheap price and availability making up for the fact that they are inferior performers? Maybe some of both? Both brands seem to have fanboys and haters.

 

[Luciferi]

I bought the tektons to have a complete inexpensive set in a roll to keep on my work truck. They are ok. i experienced wrench spread for the first time with these wrenches. I grabbed an old craftsman raised panel wrench and was able to complete the job the tekton couldn’t. The fitment is so so on some wrenches, ok on others. I wouldn't buy them again. Never using icons, I would have to assume the icons are the better choice.

 

[cfk]

ICON Anti slip set 1/4"- 1" is $130.
TEKTON (regular "pro slip"? design) 1/4" to 1" is $80.

I actually bought a set of the Icon anti-slip wrenches, but will be returning them and getting a set of regular combination wrenches.. I'm a little concerned about how badly the anti-slip teeth will chew up fasteners if I'm using them as my day-to-day wrenches.

Standard 1/4-1" Icons are about $90 with a coupon, so not much of a price difference if you aren't in a hurry to buy.

I actually snagged a set of Tekton 8-22mm wrenches off Amazon for $67, so I will compare them side-by-side to the Icons when they show up next week.

I have Icon stubbies and offsets that are excellent but those aren't bread and butter tools like full size combos are

I have a set of the offsets too and they are very nice. I chose them over the Tektons because of the 60 degree offset vs the 45 degree on the Tektons.

 

[KnurledNut]

I had a set of lightly used, like new metric Tektons in my hands and could have picked them up for $25.
The box end wall thickness seemed thick and not uniform among sizes, almost like a couple shared blanks or something. It just did nothing for me. The short length, especially on the bigger sizes, was a big turn-off too. I left them laying.
(Carlyles have big rings too.)
I typically use Snap-on combos and am used to that size, so maybe I'm expecting too much.

 

[Blind1]

My tekton wrenches have been fine. They survive a 3 year old “assistant” in the garage as well.

 

[Hohn]

I have a set of the offsets too and they are very nice. I chose them over the Tektons because of the 60 degree offset vs the 45 degree on the Tektons.

Yeah, I'm not sure how critical the offset angle is vs the length of it. Capri uses 75, Icons are 60, the Tektons are 45.
The Icons feel great in hand but there's just something about them that I really dislike.

I had to go out to the garage just now and do a couple comparisons (again) against other Icon box ends (on my stubby), Wright, Nepros and Williams and Capri. I used 12mm since there a many of those easily accessible underhood on my GX.


I've been struggling to articulate what it is about the Icon offsets that I dislike so much, and I think it's that the slop in it makes it impossible to feel with one hand when the wrench is fully on the head and aligned correctly.

The Icon offsets are the only box ends I have where you actually MUST have either eyes on to visually confirm alignment or use your other hand on the fastener to feel that the wrench is on straight and fully and correctly engaged.

With none of my other box ends is this the case. The Icon offsets (or at least mine) have a ton of slop not side to side (rotationally) but up and down like a diving board. This is worse than side because this is where you lose all the feedback for correct tool engagement. You can't tell blindfolded the the tool is all the way on and straight.

That's a pretty big deal to me because so many fasteners are blind and you have to go by feel.

I'm probably going to order a Tekton 10x12 or similar just to test to see if they fix the aspect of the Icons I find so objectionable. If not, I'll probably end up trying Capri or some other Taiwanese brand. I really wish I could find on an offset that fit like the non-offset Nepros or Williams do without actually having to pony up for offset Nepros.

 

[slowtwitch73]

Icon for the win.

You can take the Icons down to nearest Horrible Freight for Warranty same day if a problem ever arises.

Flirt with the weird tattooed girl at the register.

Bob's your uncle.

 

[Black300zx]

The Icon offsets are the only box ends I have where you actually MUST have either eyes on to visually confirm alignment or use your other hand on the fastener to feel that the wrench is on straight and fully and correctly engaged.

With none of my other box ends is this the case. The Icon offsets (or at least mine) have a ton of slop not side to side (rotationally) but up and down like a diving board. This is worse than side because this is where you lose all the feedback for correct tool engagement. You can't tell blindfolded the the tool is all the way on and straight.

This is really interesting. The specific reason I drove down the street to HF and bought my Icon offset metric set was for a recessed blind application. More specifically, my lower control arm eccentric bolts for adjusting camber. I didn't notice any issue feeling the wrench onto the bolt head with one hand (blind), making my adjustment, and then holding the setting while tightening the nut with a 2nd wrench.

 

[boom_bap]

I've got Tekton in metric and Icon in SAE. Wish I had gone with Icons in metric as well, but they were'nt out at teh time.

The tektons in the smaller sizes can round bolts I've found like 8mm battery terms...

The Icons are nicely finished and longer.

I have the smooth jaw and don't have a huge need to anti-slips at this time, so I'd get those first, just a run of the mill wrench set. Next time ICON has a 20% off I may just go pick them up and toss the tektons in a box somewhere as backups.

 

[Hohn]

This is really interesting. The specific reason I drove down the street to HF and bought my Icon offset metric set was for a recessed blind application. More specifically, my lower control arm eccentric bolts for adjusting camber. I didn't notice any issue feeling the wrench onto the bolt head with one hand (blind), making my adjustment, and then holding the setting while tightening the nut with a 2nd wrench.

I can think of two possible explanations— HF tools might vary a good bit even in the icon line (not likely), or I’m just being unrealistically picky and trying to blame tools for lack of mechanical ability.

 

[IRQVET]

Meh - all the marketing BS (in both directions), etc. doesn't exist when I'm working on something.

Having had both, I like the Tektons OK, and they never failed me or rounded anything off, but they were kinda sloppy. The Icons aren't. My Hazet set has the tightest tolerance of the stuff I have around, but are a little short (some sizes more than others for some reason).

I sold the Tektons, so can't compare them now, but you can kinda see some of the difference in how the box end is executed and how the size marking is executed:

No hate for the Tektons - they're great value-for-money and I have every confidence in their customer service - but the Icons are nicer wrenches IMHO.


You can call HF's spare parts department and order essentially anything. My understanding is it's very affordable/etc. (i.e. they're not gouging for shipping or jacking the price for a single).

Why they make it so hard to do that is a mystery to me.

I’ve never tried but I remember when I was doing my research, there were several videos I found we that is what people thought, but in fact, found out they (Icon/HF) will only replace a tool if it fails; and then they will replace your entire set straight across. But when it comes to individual wrenches or sockets, they do not. Especially in the event you loose one and just want to replace the one you lost. Nope, gotta go by another set cause they won’t sell you an individual tool. Maybe that has changed, but when I was doing my research, alot of people seemed to be having that same issue.

I think if Icon/HF could fix that one thing, it would be huge for them cause the Icon brand seems to be really nice. But again, the individual tool replacement and quality is why I went Tekton.

 

[M635_Guy]

I’ve never tried but I remember when I was doing my research, there were several videos I found we that is what people thought, but in fact, found out they (Icon/HF) will only replace a tool if it fails; and then they will replace your entire set straight across. But when it comes to individual wrenches or sockets, they do not. Especially in the event you loose one and just want to replace the one you lost. Nope, gotta go by another set cause they won’t sell you an individual tool. Maybe that has changed, but when I was doing my research, alot of people seemed to be having that same issue.

I think if Icon/HF could fix that one thing, it would be huge for them cause the Icon brand seems to be really nice. But again, the individual tool replacement and quality is why I went Tekton.

The store closest to my house has the district manager in there pretty often for some reason. He was helping me find something and mentioned his title, and I asked him about the replacement policy: They will absolutely replace a single tool. They do not replace the set, nor do you need to bring your whole set when warrantying a single tool. Anyone saying this happens is experiencing a store employee that is incorrectly trained, wants to avoid the process of marking down the set that now has a piece missing and the paperwork/process associated with that or the person saying it's their policy is lying to badmouth HF. I think all three of those things have been variously true, but it's not the policy of HF to require the set.

As far as the singles, you can call their parts department and order single tools. They ask you to get a part number from the parts list PDF, but I'd probably ignore its existence and just call and make them look up the damn number. The phone number is (800) 444-3353. I realize having to call somebody (not to mention asking the customer to look up the part number...) is entirely silly - it's my one big gripe with Harbor Freight at the moment. But you can absolutely buy singles, and the prices and shipping are extremely reasonable from what I've heard.

 

[Komet]

I just can't wrap my head around a guy who can actually wear out a wrench to the point of warranty and is also really concerned about besterest value mid tier Taiwan stuff. Warranty is a fluff argument on combo wrenches.