ideal 30-429

[lightning02]

I ordered a some ideal 30-429 from amazon and I just got them today. They have a blue handle instead of the bright yellow rubber overmold handle like I see the rest have. What are the differences and should I return them??

 

[Jlarson]

They recently switched handle colors, the last pairs we ordered came blue instead of yellow. Most retailers probably haven't updated their photos.

 

[lightning02]

Oh ok. Bc the ones I used before had yellow too. Not a fan of the blue and whateve it's made out of. I liked the rubber yellow better.

 

[Jlarson]

Most of us end up cutting the grips right off and putting Klein Tenite grips on out of the box.

 

[Brownsfan]

I have a set of ideal crimper I got at Menards that look identical for 19.99. But made in Taiwan. The have a soft blue and black handle. Is that what you received? Can you post a pic? These are the ones I bought on closeout. They the wire man series I think.
http://www.menards.com/main/mobile/...rimp-tool/p-2255086-c-6455.htm?freeFormRowId=

 

[lightning02]

http://www.idealind.com/media/img/product/medium/30-429.jpg

Mine look like this. Even say USA on the package and on tool.

 

[Brownsfan]

I see. The difference in mune and yours is 1 number and COO. I wouldn't return them. They are still nice crimper. I even like my Taiwan made ones better than the snap on one's I also own. I bought these for my road box so it wouldn't hurt to bad when I do loose them. So the USA made ones are 30-429 and the Taiwan made are 30-4429.

 

[lightning02]

Yea I only was going to return them if it was some fake **** since all the ones Iv used and seen had the yellow handle. But somone posted ideal switched to blue handles now so I'll be keeping them.

 

[defektes]

remember Ideal acquired a number of tool manufactuerers, namely western forge, so they could be producing formerly contracted tools in house, here in the USA.

 

[Loscaldazar]

Ideal has two lines of pliers, an imported and a USA made line.

 

[redwrench60]

I saw a pair of blue handled Ideal 30-429's at my local electric supply three weeks ago. I spotted them and did a double take because I have a set of the yellow handled ones that I love. I was not impressed with the change.

 

[lightning02]

I saw a pair of blue handled Ideal 30-429's at my local electric supply three weeks ago. I spotted them and did a double take because I have a set of the yellow handled ones that I love. I was not impressed with the change.

agreed. not impressed at all.

did the head look to be just as good as yours? wondering if there going to start to cheap out on stuff.

 

[redwrench60]

agreed. not impressed at all.

did the head look to be just as good as yours? wondering if there going to start to cheap out on stuff.

The style was the same but the tool seemed slightly cruder overall and the handles didn't help that perception. I didn't study them extremely well because I was in a hurry on my lunch break so I can't say if the package stated if they were USA made or not.

 

[lightning02]

The style was the same but the tool seemed slightly cruder overall and the handles didn't help that perception. I didn't study them extremely well because I was in a hurry on my lunch break so I can't say if the package stated if they were USA made or not.

yep. thats how mine is too. the tool and package on mine says made in USA.

 

[redwrench60]

yep. thats how mine is too. the tool and package on mine says made in USA.

I'm not too excited with this change. I may have to seek out a NOS pair of yellow 30-429's to put back. These are my favorite crimper of this type and I've tried many.

 

[lightning02]

I'm not too excited with this change. I may have to seek out a NOS pair of yellow 30-429's to put back. These are my favorite crimper of this type and I've tried many.

thats kinda why i wanted to send them back lol but i have them now so ill use them until i find a yellow handle pair. i saw them in some shore i was in a couple of week back. i just cant recall what place it was. had i known they changed i would have bought them.

 

[redwrench60]

thats kinda why i wanted to send them back lol but i have them now so ill use them until i find a yellow handle pair. i saw them in some shore i was in a couple of week back. i just cant recall what place it was. had i known they changed i would have bought them.

Give em a shot and report back on how they do and feel. maybe they will in fact be an improvement. How's it feel to be the test mule?

I learned about ideal 30-429's in a thread I started about a quality problem I had with Channellock crimpers. It actually turned out to be a kick *** thread with lots of great info from many contributors.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214767

 

[lightning02]

Give em a shot and report back on how they do and feel. maybe they will in fact be an improvement. How's it feel to be the test mule?

I learned about ideal 30-429's in a thread I started about a quality problem I had with Channellock crimpers. It actually turned out to be a kick *** thread with lots of great info from many contributors.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214767

well it didnt start well. when i got them in the mail it was in a UPS envelope not a box. so i opened it just enough to stick my hand in there and as soon as i grabbed the handle i knew there was something wrong lol the fit and finish to me just seems a bit off for such a tool some people relate to be the best in that type of tool.

i did try some test crimps (without wire). i always check all the ones i buy to make sure they make a solid crimp and i cant see no light thru the crimp i made and they seemed to work good. guess time will tell.

i dont think fit and finish improved thats forsure. think we both can see that lol

 

[Jlarson]

I don't get why people like the Ideal/Channellock style sta-kon pliers. Some of our guys like em so that's why I get the Ideals but I think the Klein style is a lot better. The Klein's look a bit nicer too.

 

[lightning02]

I don't get why people like the Ideal/Channellock style sta-kon pliers. Some of our guys like em so that's why I get the Ideals but I think the Klein style is a lot better. The Klein's look a bit nicer too.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/7d/7d3d657b-34f3-4cb7-b340-af6aaad79432_400.jpg

^klein

http://www.idealind.com/media/img/product/medium/30-429.jpg

^ideal

not sure what you mean style wise? there the same other then handle covers and whether or not the non-insulated or insulated die is at the top or bottom

only reason i go with the ideal over the klein even tho i have alot of klein is bc i do alot of insulated stuff so it being at the top makes it easier for me.

 

[Wamsutta]

That's one of those tools where you wish you could go back in a time machine and buy the whole store out.

 

[Jlarson]

not sure what you mean style wise? there the same other then handle covers and whether or not the non-insulated or insulated die is at the top or bottom

only reason i go with the ideal over the klein even tho i have alot of klein is bc i do alot of insulated stuff so it being at the top makes it easier for me.

The die shapes are a bit different, electricians are particular about our crimp tools. The Klein's make a better crimp on the terminals I use, double crimp nylon's. Our HVAC guys like the die shape on the Ideal's because they say it does the single crimp vinyl terminals better.