Introducing the newest SO hammer!
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benjamming
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How does that make it any better? Heck, gift type package should be made in USA as well!
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I would like to know if your tool products are made in the United States?
All Snap-on® branded hand tools are made in the USA. Snap-on is on record as being a strong supporter of maintaining the integrity of the "Made in USA" label when the Federal Trade Commission was considering relaxing the standards.
from the snap-on website from 2005: click
I would like to know if your tool products are made in the United States?
All Snap-on® branded hand tools are made in the USA. Snap-on is on record as being a strong supporter of maintaining the integrity of the "Made in USA" label when the Federal Trade Commission was considering relaxing the standards.
from the snap-on website from 2005: click
MadMark
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who makes the deadblow ball peen hammers for snap on.
I'm sure you could get it at a better price from the original manufacturer.
All my hammers are steel Eastwings, I love them, but i think the dead blow would be easier on my joints.
I'm sure you could get it at a better price from the original manufacturer.
All my hammers are steel Eastwings, I love them, but i think the dead blow would be easier on my joints.
onewaydave
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I can't not point out that China owns umpteen trillion dollars of the USA economy. What's one little hammer?
the one thats going to put the nail in the coffin
M900
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mrshaun
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unions have helped to drive labor rates up so high no wonder they go over seas. On the price of a new car, how much of that goes to take care of the unions?
I am glad the unions are not big in this area, we work go home and then come back the next day. We do not strike or anything like that. Now take all that into consideration and outsource you products to people why are dying to work. literally. see who bargains more for your money. I hate seeing anything but USA, but the world wants a global economy and it looks like that is happening. ( what a shame to see it actually happening in our life time)
I am glad the unions are not big in this area, we work go home and then come back the next day. We do not strike or anything like that. Now take all that into consideration and outsource you products to people why are dying to work. literally. see who bargains more for your money. I hate seeing anything but USA, but the world wants a global economy and it looks like that is happening. ( what a shame to see it actually happening in our life time)
Garys Garage
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Who makes this hammer for matco? MHVS20000
Please tell me it is USA made. It is my Favorite hammer.
Second favorite MHVS20035
Matco site says Wilton. Wilton site does not say?
Please tell me it is USA made. It is my Favorite hammer.
Second favorite MHVS20035
Matco site says Wilton. Wilton site does not say?
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scooby074
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That looks an awful lot like the Westward unbrakable, right down to the green head
https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/AGIPortalWeb/WebSource/Search/doMisc.do
Sorry, but I THINK theyre made overseas.When i looked at them they had that "China Rubber"smell. However i cant find a COO for them so they may be us cant say for sure
Its also sold as a Wilton/Jet. Knowing that, id say its 95% chance its offshore.
Edit: A little searching on the Granger site shows it to be of South African origin, at least the 14Lb Wilton is.
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GBNZ
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"yeah but there all made in canada now the boxes"
How much of that Price goes to the abundant General Mangagers, VP'S, Presidents and CEO's? Again Dont compare UAW unions to General service/Product unions its night and day, apples and oranges. BTW Im only up because i have to go work my union job, Ill probably be back in around 8 hours. Then ill have to do it all over tomorrow.
BTW i find your business marketing skills rather odd, I suppose you refuse the money from your union mechanics based on your principles? Dont worry ill spare you the agony of having to accept union funds from me. Chadster1 do you have any problems accepting Union earned wages? Lemme know cuz i have some christmas dough to spend.
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Unions in this country are VERY weak.. compare to the EU (where they still make a lot more in country), our unions have been effectively castrated.
The average Ford or GM product has less labor cost per unit then a comprable priced Mercedes or BMW.... and guess who's workers are paid better?
CEO's and Wall St are your problem, not unions..
BlindViper
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That thing is what we call a kitchen hammer. Its so small it only should be in your wifes/g/f kitchen drawer.
You know what I love is when people say it's all the unions. I worked for my uncle as a union aprentice for 3 1/2 years and we were slow most of the time because everyone thought union prices were high. When we bid against a local non union contractor on projects, they were usually alot higher than our bid, sometimes by a couple thousand on a 6-7k project. But it's the mentality like yours that will get a bid from a non union contractor without even checking with a union contractor and you end up getting screwed because of that. Anyone want to guess where all the profit goes when the non union contractor pays it's help $12 with no benifits?
1stwarrior95
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Off topic, (I think the SO china hammer is sad though), but I'm just wondering if it'd be safe to start a union type thread? Not one for people to argue (sp?) about wether they are good or bad, but one for me, and maybe some others if they're interested, to learn about unions.
I work non union. Not because I hate unions, it's just the way it worked out is all. I'd like to know what they're all about.
I work non union. Not because I hate unions, it's just the way it worked out is all. I'd like to know what they're all about.
krusty the clown
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it would work out about as well as the snap on vs (insert brand here) ******* matches.
1stwarrior95
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Yea, that's kinda what I thought too. That's why I kinda snuck the question in here...LOL
krusty the clown
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perhaps a PM would get your questions answered. feel free......
we have other members of organized labor here like hiball or trackwelder.
TAMPAGT07
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Corporations in Germany are government subsidized. I believe Unions and goverment are the problem.
krusty the clown
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how's the standard of living and economy in germany as compared to here?
TAMPAGT07
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I'm not an expert on Germany, by any means, but they do not have the military, space program, and other expenses that the USA has. I also believe that they have been hit as hard as us, and I also believe their unions will come to end, eventually, as will ours.
Somepeople can only see black and White, I will be the first to admit Unions are not the perfect answer for every sitsuation but someone coming in here trying to shove the example of Snap On outsourcing a hammer and still charging S.O Prices account of unions is a blatant UNEDUCATED statement. This is not a New practice there are many companies who sell there name to import manufacturers to make some extra dough, Hein Werner put there name on Winner Series Hydraulics and it was purely imported junk, Lincoln Hydraulic sold jack at walmart under the Guardian Name also as Imported Junk, Most of the Tool companies are guilty as well and its evident by stepping into your local Ace hardware or Home depot.... Snap on is still making Record Profits, You know why? Because they make some damn good tools and they have for a long time. It doesnt take a genius to see that if they put there name on Box cutters and Pressure washers there gonna sell to the General Public.
krusty the clown
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maybe we can get one of our german members to answer the question then.........after all if we are going to blame unions and government we should have a good compaison to prove the theory or it just an OPINION. and we all know what they smell like.
TAMPAGT07
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Absolutely, I agree. I'll also add that the two countries that are thriving the most in the world are India and China. No unions, Gov't subsidized, low wages, no benefits, no gov't enviroment restrictions. Not that I would want to live in either India or China, just pointing out what works.
krusty the clown
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Absolutely, I agree. I'll also add that the two countries that are thriving the most in the world are India and China. No unions, Gov't subsidized, low wages, no benefits, no gov't enviroment restrictions. Not that I would want to live in either India or China, just pointing out what works.
then isn't it the goverments of those counties that are thriving? certainly not the general population.
TAMPAGT07
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Yes, but countires are generally ranked by their Gross Domestic Product, not their standard of living. Which are two different things.
krusty the clown
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what good is having a great GNP when the county is living in poverty? and isn't that why we had the labor movement in this country?
krusty the clown
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Lets talk about the cheap erse hammer.........
that should have been said after post 136..............
er34gtt2000jp
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Anybody notice the Snap-on was flying a tattered American flag at the end of that video?
trackwelder
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I work non union. Not because I hate unions said:I have worked non union in the past and its much nicer having seniority, vacation, training, benefits, pay etc. We have gone down this road several times here and it usually ends up being locked or deleted. By the way this has been the first weekend I have had off in four months and my pockets are overflowing
No more than Boeing, GM or IBM and Microsoft are Government Subsidized here... it's called government contracts. In the end, in Germany, you get 30 days (or more) vacation a year, you work 7-8 hours a day, 5 days a week (Max), and you have better medical and retirement benefits.. The price? There aren't as many filthy rich son's of B's living like Royalty used to in the dark ages...
glenmore
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I don't have a dog in this fight but it seems inevitable that Snap-On tool manufacturing will eventually be all overseas.
As much as all of us here love nice tools, I imagine the Snap-On guys are looking at sales graph that point in only one direction. The only growth worth chasing is overseas and how the heck are they going to sell them USA manufactured tools at prices that even we blanche at?
As much as all of us here love nice tools, I imagine the Snap-On guys are looking at sales graph that point in only one direction. The only growth worth chasing is overseas and how the heck are they going to sell them USA manufactured tools at prices that even we blanche at?
RbrtAWhyt
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Inevitable. Who didn't see that coming...