Is it just me?

[kythri]

How in the hell is not having anything to base an answer off of considered "dodging the question"?

You have everything you need to base the answer off of.

You banned an entire nation's manufacture of a specific product from your job site because of a series of failures.

I asked, if you had a similar series of failures of US-made product, would you ban all US-made product or not?

There's no qualification needed here. It's a simple yes or no question.

A lack of supporting information to formulate a realistic answer is exactly that - nothing more. One cannot realistically answer a question based solely in an imaginary scenario. Especially not a scenario which has been effectively rendered impossible through national as well as industrial standards for many years. Go get a few crane and rigging certifications and get back to me on just how asinine the question posed was to begin with.

This is dodging the question. We've already established that we're dealing with a hypothetical. You're refusing to answer.

You're just looking to stir the pot. Noted.

Not really.

 

[kythri]

your whole premise is silly.it is harmful.the economy is not debatable

English, please.

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

please reread the post and answer the question ,as asked.i created my own premise,the same way YOU bring up banning a whole country .catskinner did not give that premise anywhere in his posting.also you misquoted me.nope i was wrong he did say(EDIT) the company banned chinese products.however the premise to your question is silly,we ban countries all the time for many reasons,you cant ban yourself,when a US made product fails,we have recourse.(EDIT)THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE WHEN CHINESE PRODUCTS FAIL. you cant ban your own country

 

[IndyGarage]

When an American buys something at Harbor freight, they are primarily supporting a Communist dictatorship that punishes people for exercising their free speech rights, prohibits freedom of religion, and enslaves political opponents in re-education camps to make some of the imported Chinese garbage people buy. Everyone just glosses over the fact that China flies the yellow stars on a big red flag. That's not a system I accept. It has been well documented that forced labor and/or labor without ownership interests or reward results in some of the poorest production standards in the world.

It's obvious you believe everything you wrote wholeheartedly, however, you might want to consider that everything you've heard might not actually be true - it's possible none of it is true.

Not to pick on you Ingy - but I believe the reason our manufacturing jobs are going away is that we listen to spin rather than pay attention to facts.

Facts don't lie - but we seldom actually see facts. We often see "expert commentary" on facts - but those are not facts and more often than not they actually hide the facts.

 

[kythri]

please reread the post and answer the question ,as asked.i created my own premise,the same way YOU bring up banning a whole country .catskinner did not give that premise anywhere in his posting.also you misquoted me.nope i was wrong he did say it.however the premise is silly,we ban countries all the time for many reasons,you cant ban yourself,when a US made product fails,we have recourse.you cant ban your own country

THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE.

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE,WHO WOULD BE DUMB OR STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY CHINESE.

yeah ,tried to address to much at once,but go back and read the post where i ask you a question,the point there was you tell catskinner he is avoiding a question,he could not answer that question,because the premise was silly,just like the question i asked you.or are you dodging the question i asked you

 

[kythri]

YOU.

DO.

NOT.

MAKE.

ANY.

SENSE.

The only thing I'm dodging is a migraine trying to read whatever it is you posted, then edited to remove clarity even further.

 

[96snma]

if i say are you stupid or dumb,you must answer one or the other, or you are dodging the question.what would your answer be?

I think that is the question he is referring to

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

YES^ and i marked my post edited,where it was edited.IT IS NOT JUST DANGEROUS FOR WORKERS BUT THE ECONOMY TOO (was the point where i mention the economy).btw i like your o brother references.YOU ARE NOT BONA FIDE,NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION

 

[96snma]

Whats trying to be said is how can he answer such a stupid question, such as would you ban american items for saftey issues. He was not dodging the question but rather felt it couldn't be answered accurately citing "if i say are you stupid or dumb,you must answer one or the other, or you are dodging the question.what would your answer be?" as an example.

Don't worry it took me a few read too.

 

[AffableCurmudgeon]

When an American buys something at Harbor freight, they are primarily supporting a Communist dictatorship that punishes people for exercising their free speech rights, prohibits freedom of religion, and enslaves political opponents in re-education camps to make some of the imported Chinese garbage people buy. Everyone just glosses over the fact that China flies the yellow stars on a big red flag. That's not a system I accept. It has been well documented that forced labor and/or labor without ownership interests or reward results in some of the poorest production standards in the world.

You did not read the facts I stated. All the things I stated are demonstratively true. Yet you used a computer that is most likely made in China, while most probably surrounded by things that have predominantly Chinese components, living in a country where the economy is primarily financed by China, to bash a country that you likely have never visited and of which you most likely have no first hand knowledge.

Believing things that have no factual basis do not make them true; doesn't matter what Fox News tells you.

If China is so bad, then I challenge you to not use ANYTHING that has a Chinese connection. Unless you live in a cabin in Montana and live off the fish you catch by hand and cook over a wood fire and have no connection to the civilization, you can't do it.

Bash away. I am not responding to non factual assertions anymore.

 

[kythri]

I think that is the question he is referring to

Oh, I'm aware of that.

His moronic question is a false dichotomy, and is not even remotely analogous to the question I presented.

 

[kythri]

YES^ and i marked my post edited,where it was edited.IT IS NOT JUST DANGEROUS FOR WORKERS BUT THE ECONOMY TOO (was the point where i mention the economy).btw i like your o brother references.YOU ARE NOT BONA FIDE,NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION

Try again.

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

oh good you are dodging the question and it is an apropriate analogy,btw your question was moronic,mine was satire.how can you ban products from your own country,you knew that could not be answered seriously

 

[kythri]

Whats trying to be said is how can he answer such a stupid question, such as would you ban american items for saftey issues.

I'm curious why this would be a stupid question.

You'd ban Chinese items for safety issues - not one particular manufacturer of Chinese items, but ALL Chinese items. Why? Because poor products from one manufacturer are indicative of all products from that nation?

Why wouldn't you do the same for American items? Why does that same logic not apply?

I'll tell you why: Because it's all nonsense. It's an attempt to justify a subjective or irrational bias.

Having that subjective or irrational bias is completely acceptable. Attempting to put a pseudo-objective spin on it to justify that bias? Not acceptable.

 

[kythri]

oh good you are dodging the question and it is an apropriate analogy,btw your question was moronic,mine was satire.how can you ban products from your own country,you knew that could not be answered seriously

How can it not be answered seriously?

It's quite easy. In the case of the employer/business, they prohibit your company from purchasing them (just like was explained that they prohibited the purchase of Chinese-manufacture goods).

At a personal level, you simply refuse to buy them.

I'm a Ford guy. I banned myself from buying Chevy. ****. Product from my own country banned.

This isn't nuclear physics, sir.

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

How can it not be answered seriously?

It's quite easy. In the case of the employer/business, they prohibit your company from purchasing them (just like was explained that they prohibited the purchase of Chinese-manufacture goods).

At a personal level, you simply refuse to buy them.

I'm a Ford guy. I banned myself from buying Chevy. ****. Product from my own country banned.

This isn't nuclear physics, sir.

now who is full of it,you say would you ban a whole country,not company.correct?(would you ban all us made product)that was your statement was it not,nuclear physics indeed

 

[hifi_hokie]

Maybe it's me, and I haven't spent any time in that industry, but to dismiss an entire line of hypothetical thinking outright seems like major hubris.

It's not Schrodinger's Cat or anything here

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

Maybe it's me, and I haven't spent any time in that industry, but to dismiss an entire line of hypothetical thinking outright seems like major hubris.

It's not Schrodinger's Cat or anything here

quantum mechanics? no, paradox yes,that was the point of the satire

 

[kythri]

now who is full of it,you say would you ban a whole country,not company.correct?(would you ban all us made product)that was your statement was it not

No, that wasn't my statement. Perhaps it's you that needs to go back and re-read this thread.

*I* didn't say that *I* would ban an entire country. I'm asking why someone would because of issues with a small sample of that country's product.

YOU asked how one could ban products from one's own country. I explained.

Consider this my last response to you. One would have better luck explaining trigonometry to a 3-year-old than to continue to converse with you.

 

[Dieselbutterfly]

No, that wasn't my statement. Perhaps it's you that needs to go back and re-read this thread.

*I* didn't say that *I* would ban an entire country. I'm asking why someone would because of issues with a small sample of that country's product.

YOU asked how one could ban products from one's own country. I explained.

Consider this my last response to you. One would have better luck explaining trigonometry to a 3 year old than to continue to converse with you.

i guess u should leave it alone,that is exactly what you asked catskinner.if you had aproblem with a us product would you ban all US products

 

[Bull]

Where is this all supposed to go, again? Towards what great end are we marching against each other here?