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jeremy_cherokee

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I've been contemplating when I would start a garage build for about a year now. I think it's time, even though I'm not ready to do everything I want to, if I don't start now, who knows when I will.

Background
I just turned 29. I live in a tiny little town North of Ames, Iowa that has about 1200 people in it. I married my high school sweetheart back in 2008 and we've been together since 2002 (man that's a long time haha). We have twin almost-3-year-olds (a boy and a girl). This is a little tangental, however, if you're a gynecologist and you have a young couple sitting in front of you that had to take fertility drugs to get pregnant, don't say "there's at LEAST two babies in there" when doing the initial ultrasound. I'm pretty sure that knocked off at least 10 years from my total lifespan. Obligatory pics of my little helpers:

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Annnnnyway ... We moved to the little town from Ankeny (a suburb of Des Moines) almost 2 years ago. I had completely remodeled our house in Ankeny from top to bottom but we didn't like the traffic and wanted to put our kids in a smaller school. Then we found this house. I walked into the shop (will explain in a bit) and the wife walked into the kitchen (the guy hand built a beautiful kitchen and many other things) and we were sold. It wasn't really where we wanted to live (location wise) but we couldn't beat the price with everything it provided.

The Shop
When we lived in Ankeny I thought I was spoiled. There I had a nice 24'x30' shop - which, seeing that they consider a garage to be "oversized" at 20'x22' in Ankeny - was pretty freaking nice. Then we started to look around and what I had in Ankeny was a good start, but not nearly where I'm at today.

My current shop is broken up into two sections. The total dimensions of the shop are 24 x 48'. However, the inside is broken up into 2. In the front section there is a 24' x 18' parking garage. This is where I park our daily drivers, my motorcycle, and, for the moment, our wood storage for our wood burning fireplace. The back section is separated by a 16'x7' garage door and a 32" passenger door and consumes the rest of the space (about 24'x30'). This area is what I refer to as "the shop." It's still a work in progress as the original builders did a questionable job on the electrical - not so much actual wiring, but location of the wiring.

My Hobbies/Why I NEEDED a shop
As the name of this thread implies, I am, for all intents and purposes, a nerd. Many of you might assume that means I play video games and snort my nose frequently while wearing big thick glasses. No, not so much. I am not a gamer, I am a nerd. I have a 25U server rack in my basement. I host a personal blog site (ok, it's basically just a digital scrapbook of my life), a plex server because I have a bunch of blu-rays and have them backed up so I can stream them, and I do a lot of testing to learn new things as my occupation is a systems administrator (that's a simplified explanation of what I do, but probably the best two-word name I can give my title). Although my server is not in my shop, my nerd-ness expands to all aspects of my life, including the shop. Here's a picture of my tech room, which is effectively my shop on the inside:

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In addition to being a nerd, I am a big gear head. My dad (His Build Thread Here) was a mechanic for many years before he switched over to his current occupation involving nuclear medicine equipment. I grew up a GM kid but I have since expanded my automotive interests to include anything that is fun to drive because, well, that's what life's about. Life isn't about being blindly loyal to a single brand but, instead, is about having as much fun as you can in this limited time we get here on earth. What is probably my favorite vehicle (although, really, saying you have a favorite vehicle if you are a lover of cars is like explaining what your favorite color is. Yes you might like blue but red looks great too ... so does black, and gray, and ...) is the Jeep Cherokee XJ. I've owned 4, although my current one and my first one have been, by far, the best ones I have owned. The first one was a 1990 2-door with a 5-speed and a sun roof. We rebuilt the engine on that and then I decided to sell it because I needed money and was probably suffering from brain damage from doing all that engine work because who sells a completely rust free XJ 2-door with a stick.

My current Jeep, affectionately named "FrankenJeep" has been a massive, ongoing project. I bought it not running, 2WD, and with about 170k on the clock but absolutely no rust on it. Last year I converted it to a 4WD, put in a brand new crate motor, completely painted the under body with farm implement paint, and upgraded pretty much everything about it. My signature has a website, if you're really interested, feel free to take a look.

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Plans for this Nerd's Shop
This is a loaded question, as I'm sure all of you realize when writing your build thread. Here's a few of the basics I really want to accomplish:
- Re-do the wiring
- Build a Steevo Bench
- Replace the old cabinets with said Steevo Bench
- Re-do the sheetrock
- Replace the lighting
- Re-paint the flooring
- "Pretty up" the parking garage with racedeck, sheetrock, and new garage door openers
- Build a shed (possibly attached behind the shop) to store the larger extra materials and the yard equipment
- Move the TV to ... oh screw it, I'll draw this up on Sketchup so it makes more sense
- Build a mobile cart for the miter box and table saw (which I just sold and need to replace with a smaller one)

Final Thoughts
I apologize (kind of) for the long-winded thread. I will try and keep the remaining posts not quite as long but still informative. I, by no stretch of the imagination, considerd myself an expert on anything that isn't a server. However, I do try and do some neat projects and like to document them so other people are encouraged to also make a fool...I mean try neat projects.
 
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jeremy_cherokee

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Nerding Up the Shop
A few months ago I threw together a real quick "shelving" unit for a monitor, desktop, receiver, and a couple of speakers. I like to listen to spotify and you never know when you're going to have to Google how to fix something you just recently broke while working on an XJ.

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It's simple, and I think I'm going to replace it with a steel, painted cabinet in my "final" design, but it does what it's supposed to right now. I had the 2x4s and the particle board lying around from demoing an old shelf thing I had built in Ankeny.

Making Old Cabinets Pretty
Last year, and then again a few months ago, I was surfing GovDeals (something I should never be allowed to do) and found these ugly, yet great condition cabinets. I bought 3 of the shorter ones last year for $90:

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Then a few months ago I found a set of 4 of these ones for only $40:

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I only really wanted 1 of them but they came in a package deal so I gave one to the old man, one to a friend of mine, and one to my brother-in-law.

Then, just a week or two ago, we are doing a little downsizing at work and had a bunch of extra furniture and I picked up 2 of these:

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I couldn't stand the 1970s brown/tan combo so I decided to paint them Craftsman colors. I only have a picture of the big one on me, but the little cabinets were all painted to match:

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Now I'm just waiting to paint the newest shelves I got from work. I have to come up with some sort of paint booth for the shop in order to do that, however, because painting those cabinets made the shop an absolute mess. The spray got everywhere.

I think what I'll do is put a few 2x4s along the ceiling and put velcro on the outside of the square of 2x4s and then velcro some plastic sheets up when I need it.
 
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More Stuff For the Shop
A couple of weeks ago I was doing another thing I shouldn't be allowed to do and I was walking through the Ames ISU Surplus sale. I saw this decent old cart. I think it was only $30 or something like that so I had to have it.

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I hadn't really used it yet until this weekend when I was gutting the interior of the XJ and am I ever glad I bought it. It's a great little cart. Needs to be repainted real bad, but great "bones":

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New Adventures
In my first post I mentioned building a Steevo Bench. What I failed to mention is that I haven't welded since high school and I didn't even own a welder. As of about a week ago I bought this nice lincoln from a guy down in Ankeny. Seems to be in great shape, although I haven't been able to test it yet because, well, I don't have the proper outlet yet (soon to be remedied).

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I picked up a couple hundred pounds of tube steel and angle iron to get the project going. I have designed what I'm going to build:

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I currently think I'm going to use 2 of the Craftsman heavy duty bottom boxes to build this. I don't need the huge HF bottom boxes for this particular storage because I have so many other shelving units. I have a love hate relationship with Craftsman. I used to love all their stuff when it wasn't built outside the country. Now I have a real hit or miss relationship with their tools. I have a little bottom box my parents got me for xmas years ago and it was junk right from the beginning. So I'm going to go down to Sears and play around with one before I jump the gun on those.

Tools for the little man
I decided that my very first toolbox would be handed down to my son. I got this toolbox when I was around 9 or 10, somewhere in there. It's been a great box but I think it'll be a good starter box for the little man. I told him it's his tool box and now he comes out to the shop and makes sure sis doesn't get to touch them because they are "my tools! my tools" according to the little man. :lol:

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Very cool. Im a nerd too. I also have a 25u rack in the basement. Pfsense firewall, server, and other stuff. Running mythtv dvr since 2001. Looking forward to your build. Welcome!

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Now thats Great parenting right there.. Good work Sir..

haha - gotta make sure they know how to work, and work hard. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Not in my house. I don't care if you're 2 years old hahaha :D

Very cool. Im a nerd too. I also have a 25u rack in the basement. Pfsense firewall, server, and other stuff. Running mythtv dvr since 2001. Looking forward to your build. Welcome!

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Nice! I'm a big pfsense guy as well. I originally had mine virtualized but decided to put it on an R210 so that I didn't have to mess with my switch if I shut down a host. I haven't got to play with mythtv ... now I'm going to have to check it out.

Thanks for reading!
 

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Cool. I havent played with virtualization much. Not an it guy. Self taught. Mech engineer by trade. Been running linux as main os since 1995. Love how you have your kids involved. Im still trying with mine. Your welder is what i started with. Moved up a few times since then, always pursuing more power and features.

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Cool. I havent played with virtualization much. Not an it guy. Self taught. Mech engineer by trade. Been running linux as main os since 1995. Love how you have your kids involved. Im still trying with mine. Your welder is what i started with. Moved up a few times since then, always pursuing more power and features.

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Learning virtualization requires you to learn so many things. If you're interested in expanding that knowledge, I highly recommend it. VMWare is free and once you start getting into it, you are just overwhelmed with new ways to expand. I have a pretty mixed environment. My VMs at home are mostly Linux (CentOS and Ubuntu) but I keep some windows stuff around to keep my experience up for work.

The kids love it so far. They always want to help - especially Carter. We give him a hammer and he just follows me around and works on whatever I'm working on. It's neat to have them involved. Good luck with your little one(s).

I'm excited to get the welding projects going. I enjoyed it back in high school and there are so many times I have been limited as to what I can do because I didn't have a welder. The planets finally aligned and I found a good one and now I'm excited to get started.
 

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From one 29 year old nerd to another....I love it! My wife had a hard time wrapping her head around why I needed a PC in the garage when I was going through my build....haha.

Def going to read over your XJ build thread when I have some time. I put a ton of work into mine, and foolishly sold it. I regret that decision often.

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From one 29 year old nerd to another....I love it! My wife had a hard time wrapping her head around why I needed a PC in the garage when I was going through my build....haha.

Def going to read over your XJ build thread when I have some time. I put a ton of work into mine, and foolishly sold it. I regret that decision often.

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Awesome! I got lucky and the wife rarely has anything to say about my nerdiness and has even learned a few things. But, seriously though, everyone needs a computer in the shop for Google. haha.

Awesome - hope you like it. When I sold my red 2-door I regretted that decision almost immediately. I whined about it for probably 8 years and I finally sucked it up and got the FrankenJeep.
 

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Just saw this thread. Another GJ Nerd reporting in! Although I feel a little behind... my server only lives in a vertical case... no rack mount treatment yet.

Keep up the good work! Subscribed for updates.
 
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Just saw this thread. Another GJ Nerd reporting in! Although I feel a little behind... my server only lives in a vertical case... no rack mount treatment yet.

Keep up the good work! Subscribed for updates.

I'm glad there are a few nerds here! Hey - you gotta start somewhere. My very first "server" was a desktop that I put Server 2008 or 2003 on. Then I went to a little Dell Optiplex 755 as a web host with a custom case for the file server. Luckily my wife doesn't see any issues with me nerding it up because then it exploded into what I have today haha.
 
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Messy Shop Pics
I figure, since it's my shop build, I should probably put pictures of my shop in this thread. So, here is the shop area. It was late when I took the pics but there's enough light in there to get decent pics. Excuse the mess, I've been tearing down the XJ to replace the headliner.

So far I haven't committed to this in the "final" layout of the shop, but it works well today. That cabinet will soon hold my welding equipment.

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Here is my little "desk" area. I think I'm going to change this up, too.
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This would be my current work bench area. I'm not a big fan of the cabinets and they are in the plan to be removed.
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Here's a pic of the cabinets I posted yesterday, but finished. So much paint!
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This would be the NW corner of the shop. My HF tool box, my very first tool box, and then the two cabinets I got from work. So far happy with them.
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What I Did Last Night
Last night I was working on the XJ. I had already pulled the headliner out so I just had to scrub it free of the remaining headliner. I thought this was going to take hours and had pushed it off. I used the heavy duty goo gone and man, that was easy as hell. Sprayed it all over, let it sit for probably 2 minutes, used the scrub brush and it just came right off. Very impressed with that!
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And my sophisticated arrangement of tools for this project.
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Nice work! I like you like old stuff and making it "new" again!

Everyone is a "nerd" in their own right...it just depends on what you nerd out to! Haha

keep up the good work!
 

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Ohh I'm a VirtNerd.

I have 4 MacPro "desktops" in my basement running ESXi 5.5 for a lab cluster with a Juniper SSG firewall. Linux and Apple are my preferred flavors of OS.

Also a Jeep Nerd in between TJs.
 
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Nice work! I like you like old stuff and making it "new" again!

Everyone is a "nerd" in their own right...it just depends on what you nerd out to! Haha

keep up the good work!

Thanks! I like making use of what is available, rather than consuming new resources. A single person can't make a dent, however, I do what I can to try and not be wasteful. When you have a nice steel cabinet, it still works ... just might not be "pretty."

I agree completely - I love learning about all the different things people nerd out to. It's interesting!

Thanks!

Ohh I'm a VirtNerd.

I have 4 MacPro "desktops" in my basement running ESXi 5.5 for a lab cluster with a Juniper SSG firewall. Linux and Apple are my preferred flavors of OS.

Also a Jeep Nerd in between TJs.

Nice - I haven't ever tried using a MacPro for an esxi host. Did you have issues getting that installed? I assume you're using the Intel based MacPros and not the old Apple processors, right?

I've never had the pleasure of playing with a Juniper firewall, but I've wanted to. At a previous job we switched our Cisco firewalls to Juniper and I know our network manager loved them.

Right now I only use Windows as a desktop OS because I tried some flavor of Debian and couldn't get the 3 monitor setup to work as I had envisioned. I think that I could make it work now, just have to set some time for it. I really want a Mac Mini but it's hard to find the 2012 models that support 3 monitors ... plus I just can't imagine that old integrated Intel chip being able to handle 3 monitors very well. Then you go to the Mac Pro and that drastically increases the cost ... since my current desktop was free from work, it's hard to add the expense. BUUUUUUT I still want one :thumbup: My servers are predominantly Linux - CentOS has been my favorite lately. It just seems to be a little better thought out, in my opinion. Plus I'm almost an Red Hat Certified Admin so having CentOS helps me maintain my skillset.

one of us... one of us...

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Nice - I haven't ever tried using a MacPro for an esxi host. Did you have issues getting that installed? I assume you're using the Intel based MacPros and not the old Apple processors, right?

I've never had the pleasure of playing with a Juniper firewall, but I've wanted to. At a previous job we switched our Cisco firewalls to Juniper and I know our network manager loved them.

Right now I only use Windows as a desktop OS because I tried some flavor of Debian and couldn't get the 3 monitor setup to work as I had envisioned. I think that I could make it work now, just have to set some time for it. I really want a Mac Mini but it's hard to find the 2012 models that support 3 monitors ... plus I just can't imagine that old integrated Intel chip being able to handle 3 monitors very well. Then you go to the Mac Pro and that drastically increases the cost ... since my current desktop was free from work, it's hard to add the expense. BUUUUUUT I still want one :thumbup: My servers are predominantly Linux - CentOS has been my favorite lately. It just seems to be a little better thought out, in my opinion. Plus I'm almost an Red Hat Certified Admin so having CentOS helps me maintain my skillset.



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So I work on The following technologies

Oracle Virtual Manager
VmWare
CentOS
Oracle Enterprise linux
Windows Server 03-newest
RedHat
Ubuntu
MacOSX

That is what I encounter in a day in my life at work.

At home I have the following.
4 Apple Mac Pro 2007 model from Ebay
all of them are maxed on RAM and CPU and have upgraded video cards and network cards to allow for ESXi6.0 to be installed.
All of them have 6 500GB drives giving me a total of 1.5TB per server (RAID configs)
I'm using an old n-link 1GB 24 port switch and a 5GT Juniper netscreen firewall.

Its only for lab purposes and for the most part I keep it turned off but for what I use it for it performs pretty nicely.
 
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So I work on The following technologies

Oracle Virtual Manager
VmWare
CentOS
Oracle Enterprise linux
Windows Server 03-newest
RedHat
Ubuntu
MacOSX

That is what I encounter in a day in my life at work.

At home I have the following.
4 Apple Mac Pro 2007 model from Ebay
all of them are maxed on RAM and CPU and have upgraded video cards and network cards to allow for ESXi6.0 to be installed.
All of them have 6 500GB drives giving me a total of 1.5TB per server (RAID configs)
I'm using an old n-link 1GB 24 port switch and a 5GT Juniper netscreen firewall.

Its only for lab purposes and for the most part I keep it turned off but for what I use it for it performs pretty nicely.

With the exception of Oracle, we seem to work on very similar stuff. I didn't know Oracle had a proprietary OS. Is it RedHat/Fedora based or is it its own separate distribution of the linux code? Oracle seems to be in a world of it's own. It looks interesting to me but I have yet to be in a position that uses it enough to prompt me to start learning. Plus, based on the licenses we just paid for it (we have that part of the infrastructure outsourced for lack of a better term), it doesn't look cheap to get in to.

Did you have to fight the ESXI to get it to install on the Macs or was it pretty straightforward? I'm seriously already searching the web for Juniper stuff ... you just triggered that in my brain :bounce:

My Server Setup
My environment at home is on 24/7. I have the following:
  • 2 x Dell PE R610 w 72GB of RAM and a few drives for datastores
  • 1 x Dell PE R210 (pfsense router)
  • 1 x Norco Chassis/Supermicro custom file server. FreeNAS. 6 x 3TB drives in RAIDZ2, 2 x 3TB in a Mirror acting as my iSCSI store
  • 1 x APC UPS 2200VA (Currently maxed out in port usage)
  • 1 x Linksys SRW2048 48-port Gb Switch: Used for the server infrastructure
  • 1 x D-Link DGS-1224T: Used as a manged switch for my house
  • A couple of random wireless routers that I have repurposed to be WAPs

Then in my office I run a Dell Optiplex 9020. I work from home so work allowed me to take this one home. I want to replace it with a Mac (as stated last post) but just haven't found one for the $$ I want to spend. The shop currently has a Dell Optiplex 755 SFF but I think i'll replace it with something a little more powerful. It does well for web browsing and such but I'm starting to use sketchup again for design and I thing it would benefit me to have more power out there.
 
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Proposed Shop Layout
First, here's a picture of what the overall layout of my garage looks like.

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As you can see in the previous posts (kind of) the shop is currently a mess. I do not currently have it laid out the way I want, but there's hope. This is what I'm currently looking at, keeping in mind I've done this in the free time at work so it's not 100% complete. Also, I can't find the Harbor Freight top box that I already own, so you just get to see the bottom here.

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I would eliminate the current cabinets in the corner. They are kind of beat up and, quite honestly, I just don't like them. I'll replace them with the cabinets I got from work and the bench I plan on building. In addition, I will be removing that wood shelving unit I had built to the right of the cabinets. I knew when I built it that it would be relatively short term, so it shouldn't be bad to dismantle. My next step, really, would be to build the bench. I have all the steel I think I need, now I just need to bottom boxes, and I have to figure out what I'm going to do for a bench top. I haven't decided if I'll just make it out of wood or cover it with a metal top.
 

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Oracle Enterprise Linux is basically Red hat and CentOS. Licensing differences and Yum repo connection differences.

Oracle is pretty clunky and if you dont have to get into it I wouldn't bother. Sysadmins are pretty well off not diving to deep into that stuff.

And my lab was built like 500 bucks. Ebay specials and aquired things from work.

So it was meant to be as cheap as humanly possible being that I had a wife that stayed at home with our two kids. Now that she is back at work and the kids are in school I might start rebuilding the lab but probably just go get another Jeep to play with.
 
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Oracle Enterprise Linux is basically Red hat and CentOS. Licensing differences and Yum repo connection differences.

Oracle is pretty clunky and if you dont have to get into it I wouldn't bother. Sysadmins are pretty well off not diving to deep into that stuff.

And my lab was built like 500 bucks. Ebay specials and aquired things from work.

So it was meant to be as cheap as humanly possible being that I had a wife that stayed at home with our two kids. Now that she is back at work and the kids are in school I might start rebuilding the lab but probably just go get another Jeep to play with.

Good to know. I've never heard anyone tell me "Oh man, you gotta get into Oracle" haha.

Nice - $500 isn't bad for all that. Not at all.

Nice - It's always nice to get back into a Jeep. Although I'm an XJ fan, I'm pretty sure we're switching out the Acadia for a JKU this winter. Neither of us like the Acadia and the wife wanted the JKU when we were looking last time but we thought the 3rd row would be nice. It's not worth it.
 

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I grew up a GM kid but I have since expanded my automotive interests to include anything that is fun to drive because, well, that's what life's about. Life isn't about being blindly loyal to a single brand but, instead, is about having as much fun as you can in this limited time we get here on earth. . .

Glad to hear this statement. So many people spend so much time arguing about trivial **** between brands. After chatting with many cool people owning all types of brands of vehicles at the drag strip, I gained an appreciation for all things that can go fast.

So is that bike you have a Raider?
 
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Glad to hear this statement. So many people spend so much time arguing about trivial **** between brands. After chatting with many cool people owning all types of brands of vehicles at the drag strip, I gained an appreciation for all things that can go fast.



So is that bike you have a Raider?



I agree completely! There are so many neat and fascinating cars if you open your eyes and realize that there is more than one brand out there. Every brand has made god awful cars. But they have also made beautiful ones or they wouldn't still be in business. I say drive what makes you smile. What makes you enjoy the drive and not just want to get somewhere.

Yes it is! It's actually a Stryker but it's just an division of the Raider bikes. I almost forgot to post about that. Last April I bought it and I've put around 9,000 miles on it since. It's a great bike. Great for daily riding and the wife can ride on shorter distances.
 

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I miss my XJ, bought it in 98 and went all through it drive the snot out of it and sold it in 04, guy I sold it to drove it until 245k. original motor, 5 speed and clutch were in it, he did replace the rear-end because he let a u joint get too bad and lost a drive shaft coming off a highway one night. Parked it a few years ago and its still in his driveway now all but rusted out... I also run some small servers/network but all on hyper-v had a few esxi machines but had a hard time with hardware/compatibility with some old school Sun Rackables and the Hyper-v just worked on them.. Here is my old XJ in her Hay Days!! :3gears:
 

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I miss my XJ, bought it in 98 and went all through it drive the snot out of it and sold it in 04, guy I sold it to drove it until 245k. original motor, 5 speed and clutch were in it, he did replace the rear-end because he let a u joint get too bad and lost a drive shaft coming off a highway one night. Parked it a few years ago and its still in his driveway now all but rusted out...

That's a bad *** XJ. And a stick?? So jealous. Here's a pic of my 1990 with the 5-speed:

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I don't know what's worse, though. Selling it or selling it and having to watch it rot away. That'd be rough! I like to imagine my old 1990 is being wheeled in Colorado. The guy that bought it drove all the way from the Denver area and bought it for his son who was training for the Olympics.

One of my future IN the garage projects is going to be to convert my XJ to a stick. The problem is finding the donor vehicle. Finding a 97+ auto is easy. Finding a 97+ manual that is worth using as a donor vehicle is not at all. Just finding a stick 97+ is difficult enough, let alone for cheap enough that I'd be willing to take the best part out of it.

I also run some small servers/network but all on hyper-v had a few esxi machines but had a hard time with hardware/compatibility with some old school Sun Rackables and the Hyper-v just worked on them..

I think you're the first person I've heard that had Hyper-V have any advantage over VMWare haha. I'm impressed, actually! I haven't played with the SUN boxes but they have tempted me before. They can be purchased for a good price and seem to be well built, I've just stuck with what I'm familiar with.
 

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Your XJ is really clean! I want to seek my JK and pick up and XJ or YJ project and daily a car again.

Have you had it offroad? Our jeep club would be a great introduction for it! (Jeep Outdoor Club of Central Iowa).
 

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That's a bad *** XJ. And a stick?? So jealous. Here's a pic of my 1990 with the 5-speed:

I don't know what's worse, though. Selling it or selling it and having to watch it rot away. That'd be rough! I like to imagine my old 1990 is being wheeled in Colorado. The guy that bought it drove all the way from the Denver area and bought it for his son who was training for the Olympics.

One of my future IN the garage projects is going to be to convert my XJ to a stick. The problem is finding the donor vehicle. Finding a 97+ auto is easy. Finding a 97+ manual that is worth using as a donor vehicle is not at all. Just finding a stick 97+ is difficult enough, let alone for cheap enough that I'd be willing to take the best part out of it.



I think you're the first person I've heard that had Hyper-V have any advantage over VMWare haha. I'm impressed, actually! I haven't played with the SUN boxes but they have tempted me before. They can be purchased for a good price and seem to be well built, I've just stuck with what I'm familiar with.



Yea it does **** to see it just sit there but I have many a good time in it and got all of what I had invested in it as he wanted a turn key jeep and made me an offer I couldn't refuse.. I have had a few more Grand cherokees and my newest is a 2001 grand limited that I am redoing the motor in at the moment : Stock as bought and as of last fall with the 3" lift and new rim/tires, not much wheeling in it more of a go to camp dirt road small trail buggy but its something back in the Jeep family :)
 

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Where else can you be in a computer store and see someone rebuilding an engine :)
 

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Your XJ is really clean! I want to seek my JK and pick up and XJ or YJ project and daily a car again.

Have you had it offroad? Our jeep club would be a great introduction for it! (Jeep Outdoor Club of Central Iowa).

Thanks! The red one is long gone but the black one is what I currently have. The JK's are nice but I have a sweet spot for the XJs.

I am on the Jeep Outdoor Club of Central Iowa on Facebook I think - but I haven't been active. I'd love to take it offroad but haven't found anyone with land to let me play yet :(

Yea it does **** to see it just sit there but I have many a good time in it and got all of what I had invested in it as he wanted a turn key jeep and made me an offer I couldn't refuse.. I have had a few more Grand cherokees and my newest is a 2001 grand limited that I am redoing the motor in at the moment : Stock as bought and as of last fall with the 3" lift and new rim/tires, not much wheeling in it more of a go to camp dirt road small trail buggy but its something back in the Jeep family :)

At least you got your money's worth. That's what matters. The Grands are nice - my parents have had a few of them. My mom still misses her 98. That thing was flawless and my dad got rid of it because he thought something might be wrong with it instead of fixing it (I think he still regrets that).

Where else can you be in a computer store and see someone rebuilding an engine :)

I love seeing the engine in progress and an exposed motherboard in the background. I think we would get along just fine! haha

Uh Oh I found Something
Checking the interwebs today (which is another thing I should never be allowed to do) and found a 97 XJ with a 5-seed for only $850. It says the frame is rusty (it doesn't have a "frame" technically because it's a unibody but I'll let that slide) but it runs and drives fine. Just what I"ve been looking for to convert the Auto XJ to a stick and make my XJ about exactly what I want ... but it's in Tennessee. Hmm. A flight is only $300 ... :3gears:
 

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This thread needs less talk about servers and more talk about the d60s, V8 motor and dual cases you should put in that XJ....
 
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This thread needs less talk about servers and more talk about the d60s, V8 motor and dual cases you should put in that XJ....

:lol: Oh man I would love to do that but I'd rather do that to a dedicated rig. I like getting at least 17ish MPG when I'm daily driving it.

A good friend of mine has tentatively given me the OK to borrow his truck to drive 14 hours to get the donor 5-speed Jeep. Pretty sure that's going to happen ...
 

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Uh Oh I found Something
Checking the interwebs today (which is another thing I should never be allowed to do) and found a 97 XJ with a 5-seed for only $850. It says the frame is rusty (it doesn't have a "frame" technically because it's a unibody but I'll let that slide) but it runs and drives fine. Just what I"ve been looking for to convert the Auto XJ to a stick and make my XJ about exactly what I want ... but it's in Tennessee. Hmm. A flight is only $300 ... :3gears:

NO

not just no heck NO.

Any time your dealing with an XJ or any unitbody vehicle. Any rust means bye bye.

My biggest love of Xjs is that they are disposable. Build it lift it and wheel it and when you bend it in half grind all your stuff of it and deliver it to the junkyard and pick up a new one and put all your lifts and bumpers and what not on the new one.

Rust is a HUGE dealbreaker for those.
Look in Arizona for a rust free XJ
 
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NO

not just no heck NO.

Any time your dealing with an XJ or any unitbody vehicle. Any rust means bye bye.

My biggest love of Xjs is that they are disposable. Build it lift it and wheel it and when you bend it in half grind all your stuff of it and deliver it to the junkyard and pick up a new one and put all your lifts and bumpers and what not on the new one.

Rust is a HUGE dealbreaker for those.
Look in Arizona for a rust free XJ

Normally I completely agree with you. However, this XJ is for nothing more than the transmission. I called on it. It's in North Carolina, not Tennessee (it's near the border). I want to convert my very clean XJ to a stick. The only real sensible way to do that is with a donor vehicle. This one only has 165k miles on it, has a brand new clutch, tires with less than 1000 miles on it, and lots of usable parts that could be sold.

So, naturally, since I know all of this, I'm making the voyage over to North Carolina on Monday. I have a very understanding wife!! :thumbup:

He's sent me quite a few pictures and, although the frame and stuff is pretty much toast, the body is in good shape, the engine looks clean, and there are plenty of parts on it that I could sell to make my money back. I love an adventure and for less than $1000 total with the Jeep, trailer rental, and gas, it's a gamble I'm willing to make. I'll do a little write up of my journey when it starts next week. I'm excited to make our house a manual-only family :beer:
 

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Normally I completely agree with you. However, this XJ is for nothing more than the transmission. I called on it. It's in North Carolina, not Tennessee (it's near the border). I want to convert my very clean XJ to a stick. The only real sensible way to do that is with a donor vehicle. This one only has 165k miles on it, has a brand new clutch, tires with less than 1000 miles on it, and lots of usable parts that could be sold.

So, naturally, since I know all of this, I'm making the voyage over to North Carolina on Monday. I have a very understanding wife!! :thumbup:

He's sent me quite a few pictures and, although the frame and stuff is pretty much toast, the body is in good shape, the engine looks clean, and there are plenty of parts on it that I could sell to make my money back. I love an adventure and for less than $1000 total with the Jeep, trailer rental, and gas, it's a gamble I'm willing to make. I'll do a little write up of my journey when it starts next week. I'm excited to make our house a manual-only family :beer:


For drive line then I can totally understand. Ive done that with quite a few Wagoneers that were rusty buckets of tetanus and needed to be scrapped. I would remove everything useful then have the frame and body hauled away. Then sit on the parts that were good till someone bought them at my price.
 
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