just pulled the trigger on this:
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Youngguns
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My Bosch corded drill (made in Switzerland) is the most amazing drill I've ever held in my hand. It's probably the most amazing tool I've held in my hand. Mine is a little older than yours, but if yours has any similarity, it'll be the best thing you ever use.
Strouty
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When you pulled the trigger did it spin? Are you going to buy one?
allinon72
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That big ole thing for drilling pocket holes? Are you drilling into granite?
Zeke
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That's a very nice drill motor. I have the hammer drill version. The 'trigger' is a bit tricky. Kind of a hair trigger if you know what I mean.
ctb
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theoldwizard1
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IMHO, any hand held corded 1/2" drill that does NOT have triple gear reduction is a waste pf money. Just not enough torque.
For that matter, I think cordless 1/2" drill are a waste also. Same issue. Not enough torque.
For that matter, I think cordless 1/2" drill are a waste also. Same issue. Not enough torque.
Beemer533
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I would disagree for all but the largest hole hawg style bits, but corded definitely wins the "staying power" contest.
GarageWarrior
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Was using this 1/2" D-handle drill for 2 years to power-drive a hoist on a manual pallet lift:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-variable-speed-reversible-heavy-duty-d-handle-drill-69453.html
Plenty of torque to run 1 5/8" nut driver - had to hang on to the side-handle to keep it under control. And people say hf drills are guttless
purplezr2
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I disagree, blowing holes in aluminum is what easier with a cordless drill, and I have used a 1/2 bit no problem.
theoldwizard1
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Ever have to drill a 1/2" hole for a hitch on a pickup truck frame ?
The neighbors was trying to do that using some kind of "D handle" drill. The bit wasn't real good, but he could stall out the motor when he put his weight on it.
I gave him my old Craftsman Professional triple gear reduction drill. It is about the size of your average 3/8" corded drill. When the bit snagged, it spun him around like a rag doll (young guy, about 30, over 200 lbs) and about broke his wrist !
theoldwizard1
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If you are more than just a casual DIYer, you need 2 drills.
- 3/8" cordless, even a wimpy 12V one. You will use this about 60-75% of the time.
- 1/2" corded with triple gear reduction. Use it when you need it. Like whipping drywall mud.
littletoes
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I've got that same Bosch in 400 rpm....it will twist your wrist off.
Also, I take it you have never used a HILTI cordless drill, it will also twist your wrist off too, 1/2" drive.
Last time I had to zip a quick 1/2 inch hole in a heavy double frame readymix Mack, I used a cordless 18v Dewalt drill with a 1/2 inch chuck, a nice sharp 5/16 bit, and a little lube. Finished it with a 1/2 fast twist reamer. No drama, no broken bones, no broken tools.
You don't need a triple reduction gearbox in a drill to get the job done, and 1/2 inch chucks on cordless drills are a no-brainer. Why would you get smaller and handicap yourself? My m12 fuel drill has a 1/2 inch chuck. If it didnt, 3/4 of what I use it for wouldn't fit.
truckdriver
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Last time I had to drill 4 holes on my truck frame I did the same thing. Drilled the holes to 3/8 with my M12 drill and finished with the reamer. Much better than using 5/8 S&D bit.
creativecars
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Worked with an old machinist, he'd say "Get off that damn thing, it's a drill not a press, let it work?"
theoldwizard1
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While I can not find it in the specs, the Bosch 1034VSR with a max speed of 550 RPM likely has triple gear reduction.
theoldwizard1
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Buy bits turned down to 3/8" !
How long do you think you could mix a 5 gallon bucket of drywall compound for ? Haw many 1½" holes could you cut in a 2x4 bottom plate ?
The combination of a lightweight 3/8" cordless and a heavy duty 1/2" corded drill works for me ! (My son borrowed my drill for make some 7/8" holes in some 6x6 with a S&D bit. His cordless just did not have the torque.)
theoldwizard1
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A good quality, sharp drill ALWAYS is best ! Starting small and using a reamer is also a good suggestion !!
Bigplum
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blue bosch good , green bosch bad ,
that saying, my old green bosch hammer is still going after 29 years although its semi retired after I bought into SDS
that saying, my old green bosch hammer is still going after 29 years although its semi retired after I bought into SDS
No need to pay more for oddball bits with a larger chuck.
I haven't ever mixed a bucket of mud or bored any 2x4s with my m12 and I never will. It isn't for that, and never do we ever do that at work in a hydraulics shop.
Glad your setup works for you, it isn't necessarily right for everybody.
A quick update. The drill came today with a defect on the chuck. It was completely corroded and almost looked like it was peeling. I have seen similar looking oxidization on boat motors that weren't flushed well after salt water. I returned it to the orange store and got a m18 fuel.
GirchyGirchy
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Any suggestions on reamers?
dr_clyde
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To say that a 1/2" chuck on a cordless drill is a waste is completley rediculous.
Today's cordless drills are more capable and powerful than most can handle. Just about every useful tool I use a drill for has a 1/2" shank. Not to mention the industrial supply seldom carries the 3/8" reduced shank stuff.
Just 2 days ago I cut a hole in a stainless tank with a 4" hole saw. Used a cordless makita.
My corded hole shooter only gets used when he job is repetitive AND demanding. Definitely the right choice for mixing lots of mud, multiple holesaw holes, large forstner bits and that kind of stuff. But to say that a 1/2" cordless is a waste is just not true.
Today's cordless drills are more capable and powerful than most can handle. Just about every useful tool I use a drill for has a 1/2" shank. Not to mention the industrial supply seldom carries the 3/8" reduced shank stuff.
Just 2 days ago I cut a hole in a stainless tank with a 4" hole saw. Used a cordless makita.
My corded hole shooter only gets used when he job is repetitive AND demanding. Definitely the right choice for mixing lots of mud, multiple holesaw holes, large forstner bits and that kind of stuff. But to say that a 1/2" cordless is a waste is just not true.
Norseman. I like the fast twist, they have been less likely to bind for me.
http://www.norsemandrill.com/pdf/norSection/201403NST.pdf 5th page
nicksnothereman
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Meaning?
Just asking. I know the watch thing but I don't recall ever hearing about them being experts with heavy(ier) machinery. I know they make fancy toothbrushes for colgate though.
theoldwizard1
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Most 1/2" drills, including cordless, spin too fast for "non-professionals". Or maybe I should say it is "too easy" to over speed the bit. Triple gear reduction limits the top speed to typically less than 800 RPM and gives a lot more torque.
Bigplum
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Meaning?
Just asking. I know the watch thing but I don't recall ever hearing about them being experts with heavy(ier) machinery. I know they make fancy toothbrushes for colgate though.
Elu tools ( the grey ones) were made in Switzerland before it got turned into dewalt , apart from the colour change they were the same
dr_clyde
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My makita drills have a 2 speed gearbox. Low gear has a high rpm of 400. Which is slower than a corded drill.