Keyboard lubricant?

[qqzj]

My son asked me to buy this stuff for him

Krytox GPL 205 GRADE 0 Switch Lubricant

Krytox GPL 205 GRADE 0 (205g0) is a very thick semi-fluid grease manufactured in partnership with Miller-Stephenson and The Chemours Company. Every jar of 205g0 packaged by KeyboardLube.com comes in a 3mL air-sealed container. 3mL of 205g0 should satisfy the lubrication of about ~200 switches.

keyboardlube.com

Does it make any sense, or just hot air? I offered him Superlube and he said it is too thick. I tend to think he drank too much cool aid from Reddit.

 

[Keep]

That stuff is like the old IBM grease, its used only on mechanical keyboard keys. As for greasing them up.....unless you are pushing 200 words a minute, i cannot for the life of me see the advantage of lubing a key.....

If he has spent a considerable amount of money on building a keyboard then $8 is nothing. If its a regular old keyboard, this stuff will most likely kill it.

 

[Ralf11]

Krytox is a high end lube co. FWIW

 

[qqzj]

That stuff is like the old IBM grease, its used only on mechanical keyboard keys. As for greasing them up.....unless you are pushing 200 words a minute, i cannot for the life of me see the advantage of lubing a key.....

If he has spent a considerable amount of money on building a keyboard then $8 is nothing. If its a regular old keyboard, this stuff will most likely kill it.

He has spent almost $200 on this project. I bet the keyboard he builds has a max resale value of $20. You have allow people to make their own mistake. Yes, it is a mechanical keyboard.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Wow I learned something lol. Never in my life have I heard of keyboard lube and my generation is supposed to know computers. I grew up with those huge dinosaur computers at home and school with the mechanical keyboards.

 

[Keep]

You would be surprised what folks will pay for a good mechanical keyboard. Look on ebay for some of the old IBM tanks. Silly money. But hey....I cant really talk as I open up my tool box to see 6 or 7 Wright 3/8 sets in metric, standard 6pt 12 pt hahahahaha

 

[steaks&anvils]

Tell him to stop going to "those kind of websites" and his keys won't stick anymore.

 

[zendriver]

I was in the IT biz years ago and only in recent years discovered how the "alps" switch keyboards were such a "thing" among the die-hard nerds.

We used to pitch then in the trash by the hundreds. Maybe that why they are somewhat rare.

Everything old is new!

 

[BlackBowtie]

Wow I learned something lol. Never in my life have I heard of keyboard lube and my generation is supposed to know computers. I grew up with those huge dinosaur computers at home and school with the mechanical keyboards.

Yup it can get pretty crazy, especically when it comes to PC gaming and mechanical keyboards. Different types of switches that acuate under certain pressure etc. etc. Some custom keyboards people will pay $1,000's for.

 

[American Locomotive]

He has spent almost $200 on this project. I bet the keyboard he builds has a max resale value of $20. You have allow people to make their own mistake. Yes, it is a mechanical keyboard.

Why would you have such disdain for a project your son clearly has a lot of interest in? Who cares what the resale value is.

I'd never sell my IBM Model M keyboard, and I'm not a die-hard PC gamer either. A custom-self-built, high-end keyboard with mechanical key-switches that will last you a lifetime sounds well worth $200. $8.00 for some switch lubricant sounds pretty fine to me.

Embrace and support his PC hobby - it's ridiculous to call it a mistake. His hobby could be vaping and huffing air-duster like half the kids from my school did.

 

[plc268]

Why would you have such disdain for a project your son clearly has a lot of interest in? Who cares what the resale value is.

I'd never sell my IBM Model M keyboard, and I'm not a die-hard PC gamer either. A custom-self-built, high-end keyboard with mechanical key-switches that will last you a lifetime sounds well worth $200. $8.00 for some switch lubricant sounds pretty fine to me.

Embrace and support his PC hobby - it's ridiculous to call it a mistake. His hobby could be vaping and huffing air-duster like half the kids from my school did.

100% this. Hobbies almost never make any financial sense.

I've dabbled a little bit in mechanical keyboards... mostly just buying them and some keycaps. Building them is another rabbit hole that I don't find personally interesting.

I don't personally know why they use krytox, but I do know it's used to lubricate the internals of the mechanical switches. It's a laborious process to dismantle all those switches and individually lubricate them.

 

[Jswain]

Whines about his kid needing a special grease for his keyboard.

Offers him some of the special grease he uses for his ratchets. JK

 

[Bayday]

Krytox lube has special properties for applications that need (and can afford) it.

In addition to PFPE, Krytox grease also contains telomers of PTFE and in fact was designed as a liquid or grease form of PTFE. It is thermally stable, nonflammable (even in liquid oxygen), and insoluble in water, acids, bases, and most organic solvents. It is nonvolatile and useful over a broad temperature range of −75 to 350 °C (−100 to 660 °F) or higher. Its high resistance to ionizing radiation makes it useful for the aerospace and nuclear industries. Formulations exist which are able to withstand extreme pressure, resist outgassing in high vacuum, and operate under intense mechanical stress.[3]

(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krytox )

I couldn't say why such properties would be needed for keyboard switches...

I offered him Superlube and he said it is too thick.

Multi-purpose Super Lube with Syncolon (PTFE) is available as NLGI grade 0. However, the base oil type & viscosity, PTFE fraction, compatibility with prior lubes, etc. may differ from this adulterated Krytox GPL 205. I haven't a clue what are the demands on a keyboard switch lubricant, so who knows what matters.

I tend to think he drank too much cool aid from Reddit.

Others have a point though. Perhaps the best route is to write-off the lube, and include a lesson on unscrupulous financial motives or confirmation bias, etc.

 

[Notbn]

205G0 is basically the standard in the mechanical keyboard world. As others have said, certain properties make it a good lube for this application. FWIW an average complete mechanical keyboard build is around $200-500. Some builds can reach upwards of $1000 and will resell for that much without issue.

On another note, coming from a son; just because you don't understand his hobbies doesn't mean you should instantly write them off as stupid or a waste of money. Be happy that your son isn't spending his or your money on drugs and alcohol. You have the right to be skeptical, but you also have the duty to support your son.

 

[qqzj]

Well, he got his lube already. I am just asking for some expert opinion on the lube itself. I also went to Reddit and read a few pages of discussion on lubes. While some users vouch for it, there are others with several mechanical keyboards and many years of experience stating that they cannot feel a thing. Others say Superlube works just fine. At the end of day, it is a big pile of mystery I do not have time to sort out.

As a matter of fact, I myself have three mechanical keyboards. One Das blue switch, one Steelseries black switch and one Chinese PLU brown switch. All of them bought about 8 or 9 years ago. They all work very well. I have not noticed any needs for special lube though.

Once my son starts to put things together (he is now waiting for some additional parts), I am going to take a closer look at what he is doing and try it myself to see whether the expensive lube makes any difference.

 

[qqzj]

What I am really against is to have one's spending guided by ads or some hypes in internet forums. Spending money is fine, but wasting money like that is not. In fact, I enjoy a lot when observing silly people making mistakes like that.

Two famous examples. In the 70's, some English man held a wine blind tasting competition between French super expensive ones and unknown (at that time) wines from Napa valley. The result that California wine totally beat fancy French ones totally shocked the world and exposed how silly some experts could be. Another example is about Vodka. Some people swear they can tell a difference between Grey Goose, or whatever Vodka made from fancy crops and water, from common Costco Vodka. But in a blind tasting test ... I do not want to repeat.

I am going to rig up the keyboard switches to make a blind test for my son. The outcome would be educational at least for one of us.

 

[Ralf11]

Opportunity to teach him about lubrication in general, NLGI, and maybe micro-frictional geehoozerie.

 

[keyboardlube]

My son asked me to buy this stuff for him

Krytox GPL 205 GRADE 0 Switch Lubricant

Krytox GPL 205 GRADE 0 (205g0) is a very thick semi-fluid grease manufactured in partnership with Miller-Stephenson and The Chemours Company. Every jar of 205g0 packaged by KeyboardLube.com comes in a 3mL air-sealed container. 3mL of 205g0 should satisfy the lubrication of about ~200 switches.

keyboardlube.com

Does it make any sense, or just hot air? I offered him Superlube and he said it is too thick. I tend to think he drank too much cool aid from Reddit.

Hey! I'm the owner of KeyboardLube.com and first of all, I would like to thank both you and your son for your order. I stumbled upon this thread when I was looking at my site's analytics and saw a pretty big jump from this site - figured I'd stop by and say "hello".

So, generally speaking, your son asked you to purchase this likely because it was recommended by either a Reddit post or a Discord conversation he was having with some others in the keyboard community. Generally (and I'm not just saying this because I own a store that sells it), Krytox 205G0 and other lubricants that I offer are considered to work great for their specific application. In this case, Krytox is actually manufactured by a large chemical company known as Chemours. In fact, 205G0 is more widely used in various industrial applications and it just happened to be discovered that it worked well for keyboard switches.

Is it needed? Probably not - but, in layman's terms, it nearly completely eliminates the "scratch" that you feel when you press down on a key. He's likely building a keyboard that's somewhere in the realm of $2-300 when all is said and done and he's probably after that "feel" that is considered to be success when you've completed your first build. There is indeed a use for it and it is almost completely noticeable and would not really consider it a waste. It's formulated in such a way that makes the viscosity perfect enough to improve the feel of a key switch but not limit it's ability to press down. In this case, the components of Krytox 105 is mixed (in a sense) with the components of base Krytox 205 - which is why you get 205 GRADE 0. It's created in a reactor which allows it to have an exceptionally long shelf-life and almost no separation which is hard to find in a grade 0 grease in some cases.

It's honestly a piece of a larger puzzle and - to be completely honest with you - it's probably the cheapest of components.

With that said, I'm happy to send your son some more for him (and you) to try in your blind test if you are interested. We offer a series of different lubricants and I can send him off with one of each. I'd implore him to try the different options and see what is best for his build because 205 might not necessarily be the best option for his particular key switch. In fact, if you have a keyswitch like blues, lubricant isn't even recommended at all. Just send me the order number that he was given when he placed his order and I will send it out when I get it from you. If he wants to reach me directly, I can send you my contact information via PM. All this "feel" talk is incredibly hard to explain with words but I would also encourage you to try them on a few switches yourself and see if you notice a difference between the lubricated ones and stock ones.

He'll learn a lot along the way. The lubricant piece is, again, a very small piece of the puzzle. He'll likely be learning soldering and a lot about electronics and programming. It's a fun experience that, quite frankly, I wish I've had as a kid.

Looking forward to hearing from you and also willing to answer any questions others may have as well. We're a pretty cool community and vendors are always ready to help - I'm happy he chose to be a part of it.

Best,
David

 

[zendriver]

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[bwringer]

Hey! I'm the owner of KeyboardLube.com and first of all, I would like to thank both you and your son for your order. I stumbled upon this thread when I was looking at my site's analytics and saw a pretty big jump from this site - figured I'd stop by and say "hello"....

OK, that's pretty awesome!

You'd think a bunch of ******** tool geeks would understand the impulse to get very very very obsessed with the action and lubrication of a "tool" gamers and ******** computer users interact with just as much or more. A lot of the ratchet obsessives around here hardly ever actually use them.

I hope the OP takes you up on that offer! Sounds like a neat project.

 

[APEowner]

Hey! I'm the owner of KeyboardLube.com and first of all, I would like to thank both you and your son for your order. I stumbled upon this thread when I was looking at my site's analytics and saw a pretty big jump from this site - figured I'd stop by and say "hello"...

Welcome to the GJ. Thanks for posting. I hope you stick around. We've got an eclectic group here with knowledge in all kinds of areas.

 

[dwasifar]

Deleted. Hit Post button by accident. Real post to follow.

 

[qqzj]

Hey! I'm the owner of KeyboardLube.com and first of all, I would like to thank both you and your son for your order. I stumbled upon this thread when I was looking at my site's analytics and saw a pretty big jump from this site - figured I'd stop by and say "hello".

So, generally speaking, your son asked you to purchase this likely because it was recommended by either a Reddit post or a Discord conversation he was having with some others in the keyboard community. Generally (and I'm not just saying this because I own a store that sells it), Krytox 205G0 and other lubricants that I offer are considered to work great for their specific application. In this case, Krytox is actually manufactured by a large chemical company known as Chemours. In fact, 205G0 is more widely used in various industrial applications and it just happened to be discovered that it worked well for keyboard switches.

Is it needed? Probably not - but, in layman's terms, it nearly completely eliminates the "scratch" that you feel when you press down on a key. He's likely building a keyboard that's somewhere in the realm of $2-300 when all is said and done and he's probably after that "feel" that is considered to be success when you've completed your first build. There is indeed a use for it and it is almost completely noticeable and would not really consider it a waste. It's formulated in such a way that makes the viscosity perfect enough to improve the feel of a key switch but not limit it's ability to press down. In this case, the components of Krytox 105 is mixed (in a sense) with the components of base Krytox 205 - which is why you get 205 GRADE 0. It's created in a reactor which allows it to have an exceptionally long shelf-life and almost no separation which is hard to find in a grade 0 grease in some cases.

It's honestly a piece of a larger puzzle and - to be completely honest with you - it's probably the cheapest of components.

With that said, I'm happy to send your son some more for him (and you) to try in your blind test if you are interested. We offer a series of different lubricants and I can send him off with one of each. I'd implore him to try the different options and see what is best for his build because 205 might not necessarily be the best option for his particular key switch. In fact, if you have a keyswitch like blues, lubricant isn't even recommended at all. Just send me the order number that he was given when he placed his order and I will send it out when I get it from you. If he wants to reach me directly, I can send you my contact information via PM. All this "feel" talk is incredibly hard to explain with words but I would also encourage you to try them on a few switches yourself and see if you notice a difference between the lubricated ones and stock ones.

He'll learn a lot along the way. The lubricant piece is, again, a very small piece of the puzzle. He'll likely be learning soldering and a lot about electronics and programming. It's a fun experience that, quite frankly, I wish I've had as a kid.

Looking forward to hearing from you and also willing to answer any questions others may have as well. We're a pretty cool community and vendors are always ready to help - I'm happy he chose to be a part of it.

Best,
David

Hey David,

Glad to meet you here! That is an unexpected and interesting development. I would definitely take up your offer, and the challenge. All my switches are Cherry MX. Which lube do you recommend for the black and brown switches? I think my son got a set of 'Gateron Yellow KS-3 linear switches'. Has he selected the right lube?

I shall ask my son to read this thread as well and hopefully he will be glad to participate. Sometimes, it is not easy to work with kids. Our order number is DK2689-KBL. Cheers!

 

[dwasifar]

You would be surprised what folks will pay for a good mechanical keyboard. Look on ebay for some of the old IBM tanks. Silly money. But hey....I cant really talk as I open up my tool box to see 6 or 7 Wright 3/8 sets in metric, standard 6pt 12 pt hahahahaha

I was in the IT biz years ago and only in recent years discovered how the "alps" switch keyboards were such a "thing" among the die-hard nerds.

We used to pitch then in the trash by the hundreds. Maybe that why they are somewhat rare.

I'd never sell my IBM Model M keyboard, and I'm not a die-hard PC gamer either. A custom-self-built, high-end keyboard with mechanical key-switches that will last you a lifetime sounds well worth $200. $8.00 for some switch lubricant sounds pretty fine to me.

You guys have stumbled on one of my interests here. So in response to some of what's been said here, I'll offer my views.

Mechanical keyboards have the same good reason to exist as tool truck tools do. If you're working at a pro level, you can get a benefit from a professional tool. Mechanical keyboards in general have advantages over the cheap keyboards that come packaged with a computer. Longevity has already been mentioned, and that's true; cheap keyboards don't last long. But it's also performance. Fast keys with proper tactile and audible feedback can improve typing speed and accuracy. This is not an issue for people who hunt and peck, but skilled touch-typists can see a marked gain. Mechanical keyboards can also be designed with a minimalist approach, omitting the number pad, the directional keys, and sometimes even the F-keys and number row, replacing them with function-key combinations for speed-pursuing typists who never want to move their hands from the home row.

Mechanical keyboards also help gamers (so I understand, anyway; I'm not one myself), for the same reasons; speed and precision, plus the additional benefit of being able to register any number of multiple keys pressed simultaneously. This is called NKRO, N-key rollover, and it's probably one of the big reasons OP's son is building a mechanical board. (This is not a benefit shared by the Model M, by the way; it's a modern feature specifically aimed at gamers.)

For myself, although I have a few modern mechanical keyboards too, I'm a big fan of the Model M. No modern switch feels quite like the Model M's buckling spring design. The audible click, the tactile snap, and the key's electrical contact all happen at the exact same instant, so the feedback to the user is optimal. I have about seven original IBM Model M keyboards personally, and run a small side-hustle restoring them. Click here to see one of my restorations. And they are built like tanks. Currently I'm typing this on a 31-year-old Model M that's been converted to USB, but most of my restorations use the original PS/2 controller. It's hard to imagine any current computer hardware (or consumer product in general) still being usable three decades from now, but the Model M was designed when a PC was still a piece of serious business equipment that cost more than the average car, and was not intended to be disposable. Its layout is the standard from which almost all modern keyboards are derived. A well-restored example is worth the money.

When Zendriver says he was pitching a lot of ALPS-switch keyboards, I have to wonder whether he is mixing them up with the Model M. Either way, that's a shame. The ALPS switches had more in common with modern mechanical switches, but they were still a fine, durable switch with good tactility.

There are people who have done various things to Model M's to try to quiet them down, because they are LOUD by modern standards. Some people grease them. I myself would not; the only place I'd use grease on one of these is on the spacebar stabilizer bar, and then only a tiny dab if it was sticky. But then again I've never seen anyone try the Krytox product mentioned here.

 

[Nineeightyone]

I never thought I'd see it here on GJ. A good keyboard is like a good ratchet... Some folks don't understand why you'd spend big bucks on a Nepros/Snap On/Wera, but if you're using it every day, it makes sense to want something high quality. My keyboards aren't that exotic in the grand scheme of things, but I definitely have a preference to certain setups -- I've spent money on keycaps made of PBT versus ABS because I prefer the feel, modified keyboards that I already spent good money on in the name of achieving exactly what I want, and have more keyboards than computers (at least, active ones). It's a hobby, and a relatively cheap one at that.

Think of it like a tool. Sure, a bolt doesn't care if I turn it with a nice vintage Snap On wrench or a garbage raised-panel Craftsman, but my hand sure as **** does. If I can have enjoy using a tool, sometimes it's worth a premium over the basic option.

 

[keyboardlube]

Hey David,

Glad to meet you here! That is an unexpected and interesting development. I would definitely take up your offer, and the challenge. All my switches are Cherry MX. Which lube do you recommend for the black and brown switches? I think my son got a set of 'Gateron Yellow KS-3 linear switches'. Has he selected the right lube?

I shall ask my son to read this thread as well and hopefully he will be glad to participate. Sometimes, it is not easy to work with kids. Our order number is DK2689-KBL. Cheers!

Hello,

Awesome, I’ve placed the order for us to process for you. Can you verify you have received an order confirmation email? Just want to make sure I got the right one!

So the cherry blacks cannot go wrong with 205g0. As for the browns, I’d go with either 3203 or 3204 - probably 3203. Also, I can’t believe I forgot to mention this, but also throw some 205g0 on your stabilizers (following the video here:

). That is one thing you can do to your own keyboard and immediately notice the difference these products can make.

And yes, yellows are the way to go for newbies. 205g0 was a good call on his part. Can’t really go wrong there.

 

[toolenthusiast]

Hey! I'm the owner of KeyboardLube.com

I love it. This is the utopian version of the internet which we were promised - instant, worldwide communication amongst like-minded people, irrespective of borders, politics, etc

 

[dwasifar]

I've spent money on keycaps made of PBT versus ABS because I prefer the feel,

Not to mention that they won't turn yellow in five years, and you can have dye-sublimated imprinting.

 

[qqzj]

Hello,

Awesome, I’ve placed the order for us to process for you. Can you verify you have received an order confirmation email? Just want to make sure I got the right one!

So the cherry blacks cannot go wrong with 205g0. As for the browns, I’d go with either 3203 or 3204 - probably 3203. Also, I can’t believe I forgot to mention this, but also throw some 205g0 on your stabilizers (following the video here:

). That is one thing you can do to your own keyboard and immediately notice the difference these products can make.

And yes, yellows are the way to go for newbies. 205g0 was a good call on his part. Can’t really go wrong there.

Thanks! I got the email confirmation already. This is great!

 

[keyboardlube]

Thanks! I got the email confirmation already. This is great!

Sweet, it's been sent out yesterday and should start showing activity at the distribution center in the next few hours. Hope you enjoy. Feel free to reach out with any questions and I'm looking forward to hearing what you think!

 

[Bayday]

205G0 is basically the standard in the mechanical keyboard world. As others have said, certain properties make it a good lube for this application.

Was this a reference to my preceding post or some other thread/forum?

I couldn't say why such properties would be needed for keyboard switches...

I see that all of the greases from KeyboardLube seem to use a PFPE base oil. I'm curious whether there is something specific to PFPE-based greases that seemingly make them so suited for this application?

It's formulated in such a way that makes the viscosity perfect enough to improve the feel of a key switch but not limit it's ability to press down.

In fact, if you have a keyswitch like blues, lubricant isn't even recommended at all.

All this "feel" talk is incredibly hard to explain with words but I would also encourage you to try them on a few switches yourself and see if you notice a difference between the lubricated ones and stock ones.

Is it a fair assessment to say these keyboard lubes are primarily selected as tactile modifiers (i.e. any anti-wear benefits are just icing on the cake)? I can see how the relatively high cost of PFPE lubes is a non-issue considering the tiny amounts of lube used, the overall mechanical keyboard cost and the keyboard's premium nature.

 

[lhloy]

On a totally different reference to the Krytox lubricants, as an ultra pure synthetic they do not outgas in vacuum, have extremely high flashpoints, and have a super high temperature tolerance range. Consequently, Krytox is used for cart wheels in large steam autoclaves that undergo high heat, with vacuum cycles. Also, Krotox works well for piston lubricant on high powered (adult) spring airguns, where conventional hydrocarbon lubricants have dieseling problems. And finally, NASA likes Krotox for mechanical lubrication on space applications (mechanical robotic arms, etc.). Thus, Krotox is expense.

 

[rlitman]

On a totally different reference to the Krytox lubricants, as an ultra pure synthetic they do not outgas in vacuum, have extremely high flashpoints, and have a super high temperature tolerance range. Consequently, Krytox is used for cart wheels in large steam autoclaves that undergo high heat, with vacuum cycles. Also, Krotox works well for piston lubricant on high powered (adult) spring airguns, where conventional hydrocarbon lubricants have dieseling problems. And finally, NASA likes Krotox for mechanical lubrication on space applications (mechanical robotic arms, etc.). Thus, Krotox is expense.

I think it's expensive because of the difficulty to manufacture (and the nasty byproducts of the manufacturing process), but it does have a lot of uses. Many are exotic, but many are also pretty mundane. The biggest being in cardboard manufacturing (corrugation rollers are steam heated, where grease lubrication doesn't last).

As for the suggestions above about using other lubricants, I would strongly suggest not doing that. Krytox (and other PFPE lubricants such as Christolube, Solvay's Fomblin product line, and Kluber's PFPE products) are the only good lubricants (silicone is not a good lubricant) I am aware of that are absolutely plastic safe. Plastics have enough longevity issues without introducing petroleum products to the mix, and adding SuperLube is likely to really shorten the lifetime of your switches.

 

[Forgottonia]

Keyboard lube? The only keyboard maintenance I know to do is to turn it upside down every few months and tap out the crumbs, dirt and other accumulated stuff. Then again, I don't think I've ever spent more than $30 for a keyboard.

 

[jblnut]

I've spent a fair bit of effort keeping my old IBM Model M in tippy-top shape and it's what I'm using right now to type this. Something about the crazy LOUD clacking sound these 30yr old keys make gives me a feeling of getting something done when I'm typing


I totally get the keyboard lube deal and the fact that the owner of keyboardlube.com joined up and is sending some stuff to the OP's kid is awesome !! Good for you !!

 

[M6erfan]

Krytox is a high end lube co. FWIW

Indeed they are. I use some of their products (not key grease though)

 

[dwasifar]

I've spent a fair bit of effort keeping my old IBM Model M in tippy-top shape

Did you do a bolt mod?

 

[jblnut]

Did you do a bolt mod?

Yup. Long before it was cool lol

If I recall I dissessembled and beefed it up circa 2005 the same time I put an original xBox running XBMC into a giant Dodge Magnum RC car in my dorm room back when I had "spare time". Oh those were the days.

I've used a dry PTFE spray on the keys with great luck. I've had a few different keyboards over the years but the one I'm using now I've had the longest. I remember scrapping hundreds of them when I was in college for the ITS Dept on campus. I wish I'd have kept all of them. Who knew they'd be worth what they are today !!

 

[FuzzyTiger]

Huh. I'm in the process of designing and building a totally custom keyboard but I never expected to see people talking about mechanical keyboards here.

 

[rlitman]

Huh. I'm in the process of designing and building a totally custom keyboard but I never expected to see people talking about mechanical keyboards here.

Puhleeze, after the bidet thread, does anything here surprise anyone any more?