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That Sunnex box is pretty cool!

Quite the process you have going there. What is the stand for? Small engines?

I love those Sunex Pin-Up series chests. Then when the released a purple one... Oh Snap!

The UltraMount stand is the Quick Change version. I can get different plates from Inline Fabrication to hold different devices including grinders/polishers and blank plates for custom use; however, the main intent for the stand is to attach reloading presses.

All of Dan's product is top notch. I spoke to him a couple of times early on when I needed a wall mounted bracket to hold all of my different turret plates. As soon as he had the product in production I ordered two along with some other wall brackets. Now that I've redone my basement shop space, I need to order some new accessories including a couple of the flat parts trays that attach to his wall bracket system so I can put my Dremel battery charger and little BT Speaker on it. Even if you're not into reloading, his accessories are really nice because the rail system holds Akro bins.
 
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I love those Sunex Pin-Up series chests. Then when the released a purple one... Oh Snap!

The UltraMount stand is the Quick Change version. I can get different plates from Inline Fabrication to hold different devices including grinders/polishers and blank plates for custom use; however, the main intent for the stand is to attach reloading presses.

All of Dan's product is top notch. I spoke to him a couple of times early on when I needed a wall mounted bracket to hold all of my different turret plates. As soon as he had the product in production I ordered two along with some other wall brackets. Now that I've redone my basement shop space, I need to order some new accessories including a couple of the flat parts trays that attach to his wall bracket system so I can put my Dremel battery charger and little BT Speaker on it. Even if you're not into reloading, his accessories are really nice because the rail system holds Akro bins.

Good to know! Up until this pandemic garbage, I've always had access to inexpensive quality bulk ammo...that is no longer the case :sad:
 
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9mm WWB is $57/100rds now if you can find it. Crazy. No small pistol primers in stock anywhere either. Fortunately, my main cartridges use large pistol or large magnum pistol.
 

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9mm WWB is $57/100rds now if you can find it. Crazy. No small pistol primers in stock anywhere either. Fortunately, my main cartridges use large pistol or large magnum pistol.

Primers are the biggest issue worldwide, from what I've heard. Doesn't sound like its going to get any better in the short term either!
 
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My local HD showed one in stock. Looked for it in the store and could not find it. Asked for help and discovered it was up in storage, still wrapped and on a pallet. I was stoked. Brand new in the box!

Got it home and in the house right before it started to downpour rain. Unboxed it and set it on the bench.

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I had already picked up a cheap yoga mat from Walmart so I set about lining the drawers and top.

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The Husky logo was bothering me so I popped it off. Much better! I may pop the logos off my full set out in the garage too. It is also keyed the same as my top chest in the garage. I looked to see if I could swap the lock cylinder from this top chest to the bottom chest in the garage. I probably could, but it would be a difficult job so I skipped it.


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Moved the stuff from the old red Craftsman chest into their new home and rolled the old chest out of the way.


Found a little skateboard I had picked up many years ago that I really liked so I put it up on the wall mounted power strip and fixed my Purdue Alumni license plate frame. I really like how the wall looks now.

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The last step of the hobby space remodel will be to frame in the opening in the wall where the access to the crawl space is and make a door for it. I think I'm just going to build a wall to cover the whole area to help reinforce the opening to the crawl space and make it easy to add some insulation. Then I can hang a few small shelves on the new wall and the door front. Since the block wall is deep, I'm going to make the access door flush with the new wall and build in storage into the door.
 
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What a whirlwind it's been since my last post. We were going to drive up and visit my daughter at Purdue this past weekend, but on the 27th she called me to say that she wasn't allowed to vote early on campus. :soapbox: Actually, I'll spare you guys that rant. She turned 18 in December of 2016, so this was going to be her first big election. That Friday was my birthday so that was enough motivation I needed. I took Friday off on vacation and got up early to head north, pick her up, and drove home with the intent of getting back in time for her to vote on Friday. We got home around 3pm and the polls were open until 5pm, but the lines were so long we said forget and decided to get up at 7am on Saturday morning to be in line before 8am when the polls opened again. Glad we did. We were in and out in less than an hour.

Saturday my wife and daughter ran a lot of errands and I smoked a pork tenderloin. Sunday it was back in the car to drive her back to school with a stop in N.E. Indy to swing by IKEA... and we were only 12 minutes from Cabela's... They had a couple things in stock that I needed! Woohoo! Oh, and I did get the dresser from IKEA we wanted too. It's just a simple 4 drawer dresser that's 31-1/2" wide so I'm going to build it in to the attic space in the bedrooms upstairs. The plan it pick up 3 more once they're restocked.

For my birthday my daughter painted me a picture of a Red Eye Tree Frog. My favorite amphibian and one of my all time favorite creatures in the world, so that was a huge surprise. My wife got me some sweet vintage style Honda motorcycle tee shirts and my son got me a Ducati Panigale V4R.

Fine, the Ducati required some assembly, but it still counts as my first Duc!


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This week I worked on my work bench in the basement and got the accessory stand mounted to the plinth. I have two provisions on the front for additional turret holders. i marked and pre-drilled the center mounting hole locations since it would be difficult to do that later once I attached it to the plinth.


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Yesterday I ran out to get the stuff we needed to roll sushi at home and when heading to the checkouts I passed the adult beverage gift box display and one caught my eye. It was a "Treat Yo' 'Self!" moment. I love it!


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And the Larceny bourbon came in handy last night. Oy.


I did finalize my plan for the hole in the wall where the previous owner's knocked out the brick and block to make a much bigger access to the crawl space under the kitchen. I need to cut more of the block and bricks to make the opening bigger so I can actually build a usable door. I also determined that a 2x3 wall will be perfect and just fit my available space to cover the entire wall and allow me to use 2x12s to frame out the opening for the door. I'm just trying to decide the best way to cut the brick and block that will create the least amount of dust or mess.

I'm considering the purchase of a new HEPA rated shop vac that I can combine with my MultiTool and a masonry blade. I know the grinder with a masonry blade would be much faster, but I also know how much dust that generates. I can't have that much dust. I hope the MultiTool and shop vac is a winning combo, but I still plan to close off the space with plastic as much as I can on both sides of the wall.

I suspect it will take me several days to get the job done since I can really only do the work during the week over my lunch hour. The cut I need to make is about 5 feet long, but will have to go through two courses of brick and the block. My plan is to try just scoring cuts followed by the masonry hammer first. Worst case, it will be a lot more cutting.


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Crazy thing about that crawl space opening... sometimes when you enter, you end up in alternate dimensions. I'm still trying to figure it out.
 
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Friday night I took a closer look at the wall I need to cut back for the crawlspace. Upon closer inspection I realized the blocks on the back side were already cracked. Grabbed my favorite pry bar and they were out!

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No dust either! So that made the job a LOT easier. This week I'll start on scoring the fronts of the blocks and knock them out with my masonry hammer.


Friday night I got around to cutting off the old handles of the various ball peen hammers I collected at thrift stores. Got the old handles out out all but one. I tried drilling out the center. That didn't work. So I've been slowly carving away the wood.

I tossed the other four in my vibratory tumbler with a rogue coated walnut media.

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That worked even better than I had hoped it would. Now I'll just slowly smooth them fine files, then tumble them in corn cob media to polish them before I apply cold blue to them. I'm excited about getting these done and putting them to work in the garage.


And today I finally got my old, little Craftsman tool chest to it's new home. My buddy was happy to have it and I'm happy to have it out of the basement and out of the garage.
 
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The swirly thing is a cool effect. Do you think the Husky will hold up as well as the Cman box?

The C-man box was a hand-me-down from my dad about 20 years ago. It was a small, inexpensive tool chest so I have no doubt the Husky will hold up as well or better. The Husky is the 27" model that sells for $140 for the top chest. It's definitely the highest quality top chest I could find locally for less than $250. It was also the largest box that still met my limited space constraint to sit on top of my work bench. It couldn't be any wider than 31" nor deeper than 18-1/2".

The bottom chest that matches is $209 and again, I feel it's the best value available for a 27" sized chest.

I haven't decided if I'm going to buy another full set for the garage, or go with one of the 41" workbench top style chests. I may end up getting both as I continue to purge and organize the garage.
 
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I hope everyone stayed safe but still had a great, if not different, Thanksgiving this year! This year was really weird for us. We usually host family and friends so our house is packed. This year it was just me, my wife, and our two kids. My folks stayed home and my sister just had her kids at her house. I don't know how to cook Thanksgiving for just four, so I didn't. We're still eating turkey and left overs.


It's amazing what can happen in less than 3 weeks since my last post...

I won't have to be killing time here for much longer! We're going to be putting the house on the market in late spring or early summer of 2021. A year to 3 years sooner than we had originally been planning. So now I have about 5 months to get all the projects done that we have to do before listing the house. For me, that's probably a good thing, and work extended our travel ban and WFH until at least June 1. At least I'll be home to get stuff done during the week.

The pending move does mean that the possible purchase of a new travel trailer or motorcycle is off the table for at least a year. I also passed on the purchase of that CNC mill. That one really stung; however, I don't know if I would have room for it at the new place and it weighs so much it would be very difficult to move (or more specific - unload at the new place). Short term loss/pain for long term family gain.

I need to talk to my realtor down in TN to see how much she thinks we can get for our land down there and how fast she thinks it will sell. If it's a nice amount and she thinks it will sell quickly, I need to have that discussion with my wife. I'd prefer to harvest the trees, clear the entire acreage, sell it now and roll those funds into the next house, but I'm not sure how my wife would feel about it.

SWMBO and I will be traveling to NW Indiana over spring break in 2021 to check out the areas we're considering for the relocation to decide which towns are our top choices. Then my wife will have to have to start applying for a new teaching job once they start being posted in March. Where she gets a job will be a big factor on where we end up, so I can't really say we're set on any certain town or city. We want to make sure my son ends up at a very good high school so we will move to one of those districts even if my wife ends up working in a school corp. outside of his high school, but location to her job while staying in the high school district we pick for my son will factor in to that. That has narrowed our interests to Schererville, Dyer, Munster, Valparaiso, and Chesterton.

Me leaving SW Indiana once the time comes: :3gears: Notice he doesn't look back either.


My wife's requirement for the next house is that it must have an attached 2-car garage and no projects will be in the garage, only running vehicles. I'm ok with that, but that means I have to do my due diligence research on any towns, small cities, and neighborhoods to make sure there aren't any unreasonable restrictions on detached buildings. For me, that means the ability to have a 120 square foot shed at an absolute minimum. Hopefully we'll find areas or neighborhoods that are more reasonable where I can have 360 square feet or more. I don't need a detached "garage", a large shed or barn will be fine with me as long as I have enough room to get a vehicle and trailer back to it. No plans or desire to have an actual driveway to it but I will plan ahead and make sure the main doors can be opened enough to accommodate parking a 21'-25' travel trailer inside.


There are too many variables out of our control right now, but that's the way it goes sometimes. All I can do right now is focus getting projects done and purging stuff.

I've been working on purging stuff for the last year in earnest, but now that I know we're going to be moving soon, I'm taking it up to eleven. I hauled a bunch of motorcycle parts over to my buddy's salvage yard and hoped he was ready to trade me for that vintage C-man tool chest. Unfortunately, he's not ready to part with it so he's giving me cash for the stuff and a bike I hauled over there a while ago. I'm a little disappointed, but cash is good.

He also had a gift for me:

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Yes, I hauled something else home when I was supposed to be purging, but that is the front wheel from a Honda CBR600 F3. The style happens to match the rear wheel I have from a CBR600 F2 that fits the swing arm I have from an old Interceptor. Those F3 front wheels are really hard to find now and are stupid expensive on eBay if they're not damaged. And the rotors are worth as much as the wheel. A great score for my future KZ440 build. I now have a matching style set of wheels for that project.

I probably have another two trunk loads of parts I can haul over to his place and a few parts for another buddy that has a project DOHC CB750 bike. I'm probably going to put a few of the gas tanks I've acquired over the years on eBay as well. I only need to keep 3 or 4 of the tanks. I think I have 7 in total right now.


On to the first major project. Renovating and replacing the picket fence in the back yard so we can have a proper gravel driveway put in to the garage.

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Last weekend and up to Monday last week I dug the post holes and bought the materials. I had to dig out and remove the old fence post up against the garage that was cut off and buried to make room for the new post. Got it set before I had to drive up to Purdue to get my daughter for Thanksgiving:

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The contractor who will be doing the driveway also strongly recommended adding a "kick" board at the bottom to the fence to keep the new gravel from migrating into the backyard inside the fence. That meant trenching between the posts and buying some 2x6 for the bottom of the fence.

I got the rest of the fence posts set in concrete on Saturday. Sunday I started installing all of the stringers. I got all but one stringer installed before I ran out of daylight. We're on the front edge of the Central time zone, so sunset is now around 4:30p. Yet another advantage of moving north... I'll get the last stringer cut and installed on Monday over lunch. Then I have to put the stringers up that will become the gate at the garage. I found it's easier to build the gate rigidly attached to the posts, then cut the 2x4s right at the end after the hinges are installed.

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My driveway contractor asked me to wait on installing the pickets until after he was done excavating and putting in the driveway so he can run the compactor right up along the kick boards. I'll be replacing all the pickets on the original part of the fence sections so everything will match. I found these at Menards and SWMBO likes them and they're cheaper than other options from any other stores around here. Plus they have a matching 6' version so I can run a section of privacy fence from the garage to our back property line fence to enclose that area tying everything together while looking better. Plus I already have the posts and stringers for that section of fence from the chicken run. I knew the run was going to be temporary so those posts are only set in compacted, course gravel. Easy to pull out.

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After the driveway is in, I'll need to move my ceiling chain hoist in the garage and install a garage door opener again. It was always on the project list, but if I get that done soon, my wife could theoretically park in the garage this winter. At least after a month or so of more purging and moving stuff around to make room for an actual 4-wheeled vehicle in the garage. I figure she might as well get to park in the garage for a short time before we move, right? :D
 

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I hope everyone stayed safe but still had a great, if not different, Thanksgiving this year! This year was really weird for us. We usually host family and friends so our house is packed. This year it was just me, my wife, and our two kids. My folks stayed home and my sister just had her kids at her house. I don't know how to cook Thanksgiving for just four, so I didn't. We're still eating turkey and left overs.

It's amazing what can happen in less than 3 weeks since my last post...

I won't have to be killing time here for much longer! We're going to be putting the house on the market in late spring or early summer of 2021. A year to 3 years sooner than we had originally been planning. So now I have about 5 months to get all the projects done that we have to do before listing the house. For me, that's probably a good thing, and work extended our travel ban and WFH until at least June 1. At least I'll be home to get stuff done during the week.

The pending move does mean that the possible purchase of a new travel trailer or motorcycle is off the table for at least a year. I also passed on the purchase of that CNC mill. That one really stung; however, I don't know if I would have room for it at the new place and it weighs so much it would be very difficult to move (or more specific - unload at the new place). Short term loss/pain for long term family gain.

I need to talk to my realtor down in TN to see how much she thinks we can get for our land down there and how fast she thinks it will sell. If it's a nice amount and she thinks it will sell quickly, I need to have that discussion with my wife. I'd prefer to harvest the trees, clear the entire acreage, sell it now and roll those funds into the next house, but I'm not sure how my wife would feel about it.

SWMBO and I will be traveling to NW Indiana over spring break in 2021 to check out the areas we're considering for the relocation to decide which towns are our top choices. Then my wife will have to have to start applying for a new teaching job once they start being posted in March. Where she gets a job will be a big factor on where we end up, so I can't really say we're set on any certain town or city. We want to make sure my son ends up at a very good high school so we will move to one of those districts even if my wife ends up working in a school corp. outside of his high school, but location to her job while staying in the high school district we pick for my son will factor in to that. That has narrowed our interests to Schererville, Dyer, Munster, Valparaiso, and Chesterton.

Me leaving SW Indiana once the time comes: :3gears: Notice he doesn't look back either.

My wife's requirement for the next house is that it must have an attached 2-car garage and no projects will be in the garage, only running vehicles. I'm ok with that, but that means I have to do my due diligence research on any towns, small cities, and neighborhoods to make sure there aren't any unreasonable restrictions on detached buildings. For me, that means the ability to have a 120 square foot shed at an absolute minimum. Hopefully we'll find areas or neighborhoods that are more reasonable where I can have 360 square feet or more. I don't need a detached "garage", a large shed or barn will be fine with me as long as I have enough room to get a vehicle and trailer back to it. No plans or desire to have an actual driveway to it but I will plan ahead and make sure the main doors can be opened enough to accommodate parking a 21'-25' travel trailer inside.

There are too many variables out of our control right now, but that's the way it goes sometimes. All I can do right now is focus getting projects done and purging stuff.

I've been working on purging stuff for the last year in earnest, but now that I know we're going to be moving soon, I'm taking it up to eleven. I hauled a bunch of motorcycle parts over to my buddy's salvage yard and hoped he was ready to trade me for that vintage C-man tool chest. Unfortunately, he's not ready to part with it so he's giving me cash for the stuff and a bike I hauled over there a while ago. I'm a little disappointed, but cash is good.

He also had a gift for me:

Yes, I hauled something else home when I was supposed to be purging, but that is the front wheel from a Honda CBR600 F3. The style happens to match the rear wheel I have from a CBR600 F2 that fits the swing arm I have from an old Interceptor. Those F3 front wheels are really hard to find now and are stupid expensive on eBay if they're not damaged. And the rotors are worth as much as the wheel. A great score for my future KZ440 build. I now have a matching style set of wheels for that project.

I probably have another two trunk loads of parts I can haul over to his place and a few parts for another buddy that has a project DOHC CB750 bike. I'm probably going to put a few of the gas tanks I've acquired over the years on eBay as well. I only need to keep 3 or 4 of the tanks. I think I have 7 in total right now.

On to the first major project. Renovating and replacing the picket fence in the back yard so we can

Last weekend and up to Monday last week I dug the post holes and bought the materials. I had to dig out and remove the old fence post up against the garage that was cut off and buried to make room for the new post. Got it set before I had to drive up to Purdue to get my daughter for Thanksgiving:

The contractor who will be doing the driveway also strongly recommended adding a "kick" board at the bottom to the fence to keep the new gravel from migrating into the backyard inside the fence. That meant trenching between the posts and buying some 2x6 for the bottom of the fence.

I got the rest of the fence posts set in concrete on Saturday. Sunday I started installing all of the stringers. I got all but one stringer installed before I ran out of daylight. We're on the front edge of the Central time zone, so sunset is now around 4:30p. Yet another advantage of moving north... I'll get the last stringer cut and installed on Monday over lunch. Then I have to put the stringers up that will become the gate at the garage. I found it's easier to build the gate rigidly attached to the posts, then cut the 2x4s right at the end after the hinges are installed.

My driveway contractor asked me to wait on installing the pickets until after he was done excavating and putting in the driveway so he can run the compactor right up along the kick boards. I'll be replacing all the pickets on the original part of the fence sections so everything will match. I found these at Menards and SWMBO likes them and they're cheaper than other options from any other stores around here. Plus they have a matching 6' version so I can run a section of privacy fence from the garage to our back property line fence to enclose that area tying everything together while looking better. Plus I already have the posts and stringers for that section of fence from the chicken run. I knew the run was going to be temporary so those posts are only set in compacted, course gravel. Easy to pull out.


After the driveway is in, I'll need to move my ceiling chain hoist in the garage and install a garage door opener again. It was always on the project list, but if I get that done soon, my wife could theoretically park in the garage this winter. At least after a month or so of more purging and moving stuff around to make room for an actual 4-wheeled vehicle in the garage. I figure she might as well get to park in the garage for a short time before we move, right? :D
BoilermakerFan,
Sounds like you have exciting times ahead.
Congrats on the future move.

I'll put my 2 cents in on towns to live in from your list.
I always thought Valparaiso would be a cool place to live.
 

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Congrats on the move. But drag on all the work to be done. Is it funny how you fix all the stuff that was broken or needed to be done just to move? We did the same thing to our old house. The best being new tile in the kitchen. Why do we wait until the end. I dunno.:D

Also I have to ask as it is transparent. What is so bad about the part of the state you live in? I have a couple of online woodworking friends that also hate Indiana.

Bret
 

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Well...congrats on the news! I helped a buddy do a mad dash on his home a year and half ago when he was selling to move across town. Lots of wiring, building walls, and I let him do all the sheet rocking.

Life has a funny way of laughing at your plans, doesn't it?
 
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BoilermakerFan,
Sounds like you have exciting times ahead.
Congrats on the future move.

I'll put my 2 cents in on towns to live in from your list.
I always thought Valparaiso would be a cool place to live.

My wife was raised in West Lafayette, so she carries some old biases, but Valpo is definitely one of the towns I want to check out since it actually has a small downtown square with a lot of local businesses. I've been doing a lot of research on the towns and will have to present all the info to her to make my case. :lol:

Congrats on the move. But drag on all the work to be done. Is it funny how you fix all the stuff that was broken or needed to be done just to move? We did the same thing to our old house. The best being new tile in the kitchen. Why do we wait until the end. I dunno.:D

Also I have to ask as it is transparent. What is so bad about the part of the state you live in? I have a couple of online woodworking friends that also hate Indiana.

Bret

Fortunately, most of the really big projects were done in the last 6 years. I just have a lot of small nagging projects to do that I've just been putting off or had a low priority. Others are ones that would be done all the time before listing like painting. Putting in the driveway was planned for this spring already. The one project that is up in the air is remodeling the main floor half bath to add a shower. We're having a design worked up so I can get quotes and then having a few realtors visit to help us decide where it's best to spend the bigger dollars on the house before listing it. If I can recoup at least 90% of the investment, we'll do the bath remodel. If not, then we'll give the plans to the potential buyers so they can see it's and "easy" project for them to take on.

Hmmm. That is a difficult question to answer and a lot of the reason I do not want to put out on a public forum. But the main reason is that this area is just polluted. The air pollution from all coal power plants is awful. The people are generally toxic, unhappy, and vote against their overall best interests. Generally speaking, the residents take no pride in the public spaces. It's ugly. The roads are ****. There are some great people here, and we do have some great friends here, but overwhelmingly, the general population is just unwilling to make small sacrifices to improve the area as a whole. It's a very small town microcosm mentality.

We've lived in Milwaukee, Massachusetts, and the Twin Cities area of Minnesota, so we became spoiled by the benefits of higher taxes and the good that it offers to all the residents in the form of great schools, great parks, and general lifestyle benefits. However, I have no plans to pay high taxes without benefits, so that rules out moving across the state line into Illinois. We did find some awesome small towns in IL, but their taxes are insanely high and go up a ridiculous amount every year. We are looking for a balance or very high lifestyle ROI for the taxes we pay.

When we moved here 20 years ago, it was a five year plan. Then things change and we ended up staying so our kids could have a great relationship with my parents. Now the kids are older and will be either out of college or attending college soon so the time to move is upon us.

The main reason for the relocation is to get me closer to my core client base in Michigan and the Chicagoland area. It gets us closer to Purdue too. I'd love to move to the Grand Rapids area, but it's not in our financial best interest to do that now. My wife still needs 2 more years with an Indiana public school system to qualify for the state pension plan and my son wants to go to Purdue over Michigan or Michigan State.

Well...congrats on the news! I helped a buddy do a mad dash on his home a year and half ago when he was selling to move across town. Lots of wiring, building walls, and I let him do all the sheet rocking.

Life has a funny way of laughing at your plans, doesn't it?

Yes it does!
 
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Yesterday it was in the mid-50s and I was working in just a short sleeve t-shirt. This morning it was 34degF and snowing. Fortunately it didn't stick, but I just went out at lunch to measure and cut the last stringer for my angled section that makes the turn in the fence. And froze my **** off. At least that's done so my son and I can run out after school and put that board up. I'm hoping it will be dry and warmer this weekend when I build the gate frame.
 
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Pics of the final stringer in place... and I remembered to take them before it got dark!

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I'm leaving the last brace on for one more day since the ground was still pretty wet and I don't want the post shifting until the concrete is cured.

It's one of the stringers for the gate section so I'll need it later this week once it warms up and I can start on the gate.

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We should have the driveway put in right after New Year. Maybe by mid-December if I can enough clean up done in the next 2 weeks. I can't wait to have the new driveway. The mud is driving me nuts.




I picked up some 2x4 sheets of 3/4" plywood to make a nicer little assembly table for the garage. I still have 2 bookshelves to build for the basement and I want to get them done to free up the space in garage and finish out the basement remodel before we list the house.

I found my left over pieces of the hickory T&G flooring I used on my new basement work bench so I laid them out to see how much area they would cover. Turns out I have enough to build a little 2'x3' top. I'm going to glue these together and glue them to a sheet of the plywood, then finish the top with epoxy this time. It should be stronger and yield a smoother finish that won't weep Danish oil for months like my big bench did. I only have so many clamps so I'll have to glue it up a row at a time over a week or so. I haven't decided if I'll use screws from the bottom to help hold the hickory down. A few boards might need a little help since they've bowed a bit over time.
 

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Doing a ton of work to move doesn't sound like a wise choice of time to me. We just sold the in-laws place, and we did enough to make it presentable. I mowed the lawn, brought in fill for the pot holes in the driveway, trimmed the brush back from the drive, and tore down a shed that was filled with mold. Sold for cash, $5k less than asking price, and 2 months free rent for the BiL. We turned down an offer of $10k over listed, but would need a mortgage. Why paint (or any other new project) when the next person will probably want a different color? I'd finish any projects and call it good.
 
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Doing a ton of work to move doesn't sound like a wise choice of time to me. We just sold the in-laws place, and we did enough to make it presentable. I mowed the lawn, brought in fill for the pot holes in the driveway, trimmed the brush back from the drive, and tore down a shed that was filled with mold. Sold for cash, $5k less than asking price, and 2 months free rent for the BiL. We turned down an offer of $10k over listed, but would need a mortgage. Why paint (or any other new project) when the next person will probably want a different color? I'd finish any projects and call it good.

We had the house on the market 6 years ago. Different times, but it didn't sell fast enough for us to close on a contingent offer we had on another place. Things work out for a reason, but the back yard was a big reason it didn't sell right away.

Where I live, the neighborhood is transitioning back to younger residents again. I discovered that many Millennials and older Zoomers don't know how to DIY. Some even had a hard time envisioning this house with their own changes or didn't know how to do what they wanted. We received some ridiculous requests from potential buyers that didn't even put in an offer to have any skin in the game. After the fourth or fifth one, we took the house off the market so we could get out of the contract with our listing agent. I would guess she was at least 40% of the reason the house didn't sell at the time.

We took all of that feedback and lessons learned, then applied it to projects over the past 6 years. I've had one realtor here already and I'm scheduling a second to come visit to give us feedback and recommendations. Most people are just lazy too. They'll buy the house that needs the least amount of their effort to move into and be done. These comments don't really apply to GJ'ers. We're collectively, by the very nature of the forum's subject, a different group of folks.

We've wanted to do the driveway for over 2 years and we'll be able to use it between now and then, so the cost is relatively small to the payback when we list it.

With the exception of the potential bathroom reno (which I will only do if I can recoup a minimum of 90% back), everything else is really just small expenses and time that will pay back much higher returns when we list the house; or it's addressing items that would need to be addressed after a home inspection anyway. Easier to get them addressed now and make closing smoother.

Paint is inexpensive and when done properly, really sets the rooms off. Most of the painting I have to do is just trim. The trim has taken abuse over the 20 years we've lived here and I haven't repainted a lot of it since it was originally done. I put down quarter round when we ripped out carpet, but never filled in the holes from the nails. That was just me being lazy, but it needs to be done. The rest of the painting is just ceilings and the basement walls.

I think I have about 12-15 things on the punch list specific to the house. Again, all relatively simple or inexpensive things that offer good payback when done. Then I have a few projects like the bookshelves that I want to get done for us before we move so I can focus on the new projects at the new place once we move. And inevitably, there will be projects on the new house because we can DIY and envision changes which let's us see diamonds in the rough and save $$$ on the next house.
 
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I discovered that many Millennials and older Zoomers don't know how to DIY. Some even had a hard time envisioning this house with their own changes or didn't know how to do what they wanted. We received some ridiculous requests from potential buyers that didn't even put in an offer to have any skin in the game. After the fourth or fifth one, we took the house off the market so we could get out of the contract with our listing agent. I would guess she was at least 40% of the reason the house didn't sell at the time.
BF, when we sold our last house 21 years ago the inspection resulted in a punch list that I took care of before the closing. New owner calls me a month later expecting me to do additional work on the house. I asked if he was serious and he said he was. Told him I was too busy and thought it was over. A week later he called after a heavy rain to let me know there were millions of ants in the pool. I said I was sorry but it looks like it's his problem. Turned out he was not on the mortgage and the house was in his significant other's name.

I checked the appraised value on our current house this year and did a search on our old house. There were photos of the house on Realtor.com and the house is exactly as we left it except for the furniture and wall decor. The size of the palm trees shown in the outside photos indicate they've all been taken recently.

On the other hand, I widened the opening to the kitchen in our current house two weeks after we moved in (November 1, 1996) so we could have the family over for Thanksgiving.
 

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BF, when we sold our last house 21 years ago the inspection resulted in a punch list that I took care of before the closing. New owner calls me a month later expecting me to do additional work on the house. I asked if he was serious and he said he was. Told him I was too busy and thought it was over. A week later he called after a heavy rain to let me know there were millions of ants in the pool. I said I was sorry but it looks like it's his problem. Turned out he was not on the mortgage and the house was in his significant other's name.

I checked the appraised value on our current house this year and did a search on our old house. There were photos of the house on Realtor.com and the house is exactly as we left it except for the furniture and wall decor. The size of the palm trees shown in the outside photos indicate they've all been taken recently.

On the other hand, I widened the opening to the kitchen in our current house two weeks after we moved in (November 1, 1996) so we could have the family over for Thanksgiving.

How did the new owners have your phone number? And how did you keep from laughing when he called about ants?

I plan to address any items from the inspection before close as well, or at least offer cash at closing if i don't want to mess with it. And we'll pay for one of those home warranties. They're cheap and make buyers feel good.

We had one when we bought this house. The A/C unit inside froze up on us in early summer. I called and had the home warranty company come out. Turns out the issue was my own doing. I had put in a large, 4" thick activated carbon air filter in to absorb all the odors in the house that stemmed from the previous owner being a smoker and the odor was released when we tore out all of the old carpet. I didn't know that the activated carbon filters are only intended to be used for 2 weeks, then replaced. I had kept in for over 2 months and it had finally absorbed enough moisture that is was restricting airflow.

I called the other realtor over lunch today and scheduled him to come out next week. He agreed with our first realtor about the bathroom and said he doubts it would be worth the investment, but he loved the idea of having the drawings and build plans available from the architect to show potential buyers it's and "easy" project to add a shower if they want it. It will cost us less than $200 to have that done and he said that cost would be easy to recoup. Basically, since our plan was to put in the shower and live her for 3 years, it's easy to say that our relocation north was expedited and we didn't get a chance to do the work before we need to move. He was also glad to hear we're having the driveway put in to make the garage usable immediately. So both realtors agreed that was money very well spent.

He will give us his opinions and recommendations after his visit, but so far, he has agreed with the first realtor on the bigger items already, sight unseen.

The other nice thing is both realtors work for companies that have offices in the region where we're moving, so either one will be able to get a referral bonus and help us find a good realtor to work with up north. A buyer's agent isn't as critical as selling, but I do want a realtor that will listen to our needs and wants to help us get the most for our money while checking the MLS system regularly to get us leads on new listings ASAP. We use the Realtor.com app which is really good, but there is a slight delay in updating that could possibly cause us to miss out on a house. Since we're 5 hours away, I also need a buyer agent that can go through houses on video for us using What's App so we can see it and have them show us areas that are not normally posted in pics.
 

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When people say it's a sellers market right now, believe them. The in-laws place is a total mess, and we still got offers at asking price within the first 48 hours. The person we sold it to made the offer in less than 18 hours.
 
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I hope it continues into next year!

Late this afternoon I made it outside to cut up a bunch of junk wood that I had piled up behind the garage. Ironically, it was mostly all the wood and posts from the original fence that I am in the process of replacing. :) I managed to get half an old donor motorcycle frame and all of the wood except six 4x4 posts and a pallet into my 2 trash cans. Tomorrow is garbage day, so the rest will be cut up tomorrow late afternoon and tossed in a can along with another half a motorcycle frame. I have 2 complete donor frames left to cut in half. A half frame fits in each can, so in 2 weeks all the junk will be gone.

My driveway contractor said he would get beside the garage and clear out all the gravel, saplings, and dig out the area to level it off more for another $200. He can't get behind the garage, so I'll have to dig that out by hand, but at least I can just toss it on the side of the garage where he can get to it. I was going to pay my son to do the work, but I realized the contractor can do it faster and cheaper. I'm calling him this week to make sure he can use the mini excavator to smash the little chicken coop and haul it off too. That way I don't have to mess with it.

I need to grab the hinges and gate latch for the new gates so I can get the frame done for the gate this weekend.

My son and I will remove the good top soil from the area where the contractor is going to cut in a little turn around pad at the top of the driveway after the turn to side load the detached garage. We need that good top soil to fill in low spots in the fenced in portion of the backyard and a few spots in the front yard. I don't want that black gold just being hauled off and dump somewhere as fill dirt.

The last little project I have to do before he can put in the new driveway is remove the old gates across the driveway and remove the old pickets from the existing fence. I'll put up that plastic temporary fence to keep the dogs in the yard. Once the driveway is in, we'll be able to pull off the temporary fence as we install the new pickets. I have enough air hose to reach the entire fence so it will be quick work at that point.

After the driveway and clearing is done, I'll be able to set the posts for the last section of fence I'm putting in.

I really shouldn't be so excited about a new driveway here at this house, but I know it's going to be nice for us this winter, it will make it super easy for me to take the CX500 out for a scoot in the spring/early summer, and it's going to make the house look so much better.

Anybody have experience with the Wagner Flexio 4000 HVLP paint sprayer? I'm using all the painting I need to do as justification for a sprayer. From videos I've seen of various sprayer in use, it looks like the Flexio HVLP system makes the least amount of mist or overspray.
 
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I think I have my CraigsList ad ready (grammar and misspellings intentional):

4 sell, custom cafe racer motorcycle. To many mods to list. Ran before I parked it. $1K OBO. Text messages only between 10a and 8pm. Don't call, don't email. I don't need help selling.

Here's the pic I'll use:

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Haha, you forgot to add: No lowball offers, I NOW WHAT I HAVE.

Misspelling intentional...:lol:
 

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I'm curious about the grammar and misspellings, do these parts appeal to a certain buyer that do not know how to speak or spell?
 
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Haha, you forgot to add: No lowball offers, I NOW WHAT I HAVE.

Misspelling intentional...:lol:

OD, I considered that addition, but around, here, when an ad is as bad as my mock one, they don't usually include that. I have seen it included on a thrashed bike that had horrible body work, but the seller felt his price was solid based on the engine and driveline upgrades.

I'm curious about the grammar and misspellings, do these parts appeal to a certain buyer that do not know how to speak or spell?

It's not about appealing to a group. Here, I think the sellers are just that ignorant. The 4 sell is probably on a third of the ads I see. Drives me crazy. But it is helpful because I run away from any of those ads. The thing for sale will be junk and over priced...
 
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Saturday I framed the gates.

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My son and I also dug out a section of the yard where the camper pad/turn around leg of the driveway will be to make sure we keep the good topsoil for filling in low spots in the yard.

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Then in the early evening I headed to Menards for the gate hardware, temporary safety fence, some more wood screws, and grabbed a few PT 2x4s.

When I got home I brought out the Porter-Cable LED work light so I could install the hardware and cut the gates free.

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Today I started taking out the original gates across the driveway and ripping off the old pickets. The 2x4s I bought last night were for the curb boards at the bottom to separate the gravel from the landscaping. Unfortunately, I have to replace all of the original stringers so I didn't have enough 2x4s. I had a couple older PT 2x4s in the garage that I put up to give us something to staple the temporary fencing to.

We got the fencing put up and decided to run it on the inside of the fence so I don't have to take it down until everything is done.


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I'm disappointed I didn't have the 2x4s to get more done today, but I wouldn't have gotten much further because by the time I was done cleaning up my tools, it was dark. The temporary fencing is 4' tall so that is also a great representation of the finished height of the fence once I install all the pickets. I tried to suggest to SWMBO that we could save a lot of money if we just left the green fence in place. She didn't take the bait.

I have a busy week this week, but I'm hoping I can get back to Menards on Tuesday or Wednesday for the last of the 2x4s I need. Once those are one on, I can call the contractor to schedule the job. He said he'll need about a week after that to get it on the schedule, but he wanted me to wait until the all stringers up before scheduling him. I decided I am going to have him clear out behind the back side of the garage, so I have to disassemble the chicken run and bring the chickens to their new home at a farm in the county where they can join a much bigger flock.
 
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Work has been keeping me really busy for the past few weeks and I don't see it letting up much through the end of the year. I have to hoard my vacation time and roll over the maximum 5 days from 2020 into 2021 with the pending move.

It also gets dark here very early since I'm on the very front edge of the Central time zone. That makes my outdoor projects like the fence take more time.

Today for my lunch break I headed outside to dig out the last two spans where the curb boards need to go. I only have one 2x4 left, so I got it all prepped for installation after I get more 2x4s tonight or tomorrow.

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This board needed a little notch cut into it so it can clear the back edge of the concrete driveway where the gravel starts. Fits nicely and it will reinforce the lower edge of the new picket once those are installed.


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The rest of the fence reconstruction should be smoother from here to completion, but this time I'm buying two extra 2x4s to cover myself incase I discover more stringers in the original gate that need to be replaced.
 
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We had a second realtor out today to see the house and offer us his guidance/suggestions. His comments were very much in line with the first realtor. Neither are really convinced we need to add the shower, especially if we pay for the plans and drawings to show perspective buyers it's "easy" to do. Matter of fact, realtor #2 said a buyer may be more interested in having the extra closet space over a shower.

He loved the front patio and the blue painted furniture. But the most amusing thing was, he went gonzo over my basement work bench and my reloading stand. He asked if could take pictures of it for his brother and then asked me a ton of questions about how I built it.

Oh, he also took pics of my home network ethereal setup for his brother too.

Since the fence is framed out he could see what we're doing there and he really like it as well, so I'm feeling much better about everything.
 
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I've also been spending too much time on YT watching videos on small shops and sheds. Then I actually started watching Adam Savage's channel and discovered Andrew Klein's channel.

 
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Just to refresh my memory, could you post a picture of your basement workbench and reloading stand.

All the pics and build are in this thread, but no problem, here's the reloading stand that sits on the bench:

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And I just realized I didn't have some of the pictures uploaded yet.

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All of the wiring was coiled up and attached to the underside of the benchtop so it's clean and out of the way.
 
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Took a late lunch and cut up the remaining old fence I had pulled off and the old gates. The donor motorcycle parts all fit in the two garbage cans as well. I only have one small section of fence left to tear off which is less than 3' long and the 4' gate.

I have a bad feeling I'm going to have to rebuild the gate so I'm going to add two more 2x4s to my shopping list.

I spoke to our realtor in TN and we're probably going to be selling our land in TN too so we can roll that money into a bigger next house.
 
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Thanks MacTexas! I have enough of the hickory T&G boards to build another small 2'x3' work top so I'm going to glue those up and then use finishing epoxy to seal it. It won't have the T-track either. I haven't decided if I'll bring that one down to the basement or dedicate it to the garage.


I've been trying to research the local codes for the towns we're looking to move to in order to determine what my options will be for a detached shop structure at the next house. That has not been a fun endeavor. There is ZERO consistency between neighboring towns. From what I have been able to find, it looks like two would allow me to have both a single car detached garage and a decent sized shed. One town basically states only one or the other, but up to 600sq/ft. Most of the towns have a rather unreasonable requirement of a max height of either 14' or 15' at the peak. One requires that it match the construction and finish of the main house including matching the roof slope. Fortunately, my wife said that town is off the list. Our top two choices have the height restriction but at least do not specify matching roof slope or finish.

As we get closer to actually moving I will call both towns and ask for clarifications. Oh, one town has super strict restrictions on home owner permits. Home owners aren't allowed to do any plumbing other than changing fixtures! They also require home owners to take a test and pass before issuing home owner electrical permits. I'm not worried about that, but it's just a PITA.
 
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Saturday my wife drew the short straw and had to drive up to Purdue to pick up our daughter. :D

That gave me the time to tear out the remaining section of the picket fence and get it rebuilt.

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By late lunch time on Saturday I was to the point where I needed to run to Menards... again. To get a 12' 2x4 and pickets! The old gate was around 20 years old so I just decided to rebuild it and make it match the other gates while I was at it.

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By 7:30 Saturday night I had the gate done and the temporary fence tacked up to keep the dogs in the yard.


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On Sunday I installed the pickets on the corner gate and the little section of fence by the house. I screwed the pickets on to the gate since it experiences so much vibration and shock. I used the pneumatic 1/4" narrow crown staple gun with 1-1/2" staples to attach the pickets to the little section. It worked great! So once the driveway is done, I will just have to carefully tack up about five boards along the run to set the correct height, then I can just pull brick layer twine across the spans to set the heights for all the rest of the pickets. I already made my spacer blocks so the install of the rest of the pickets will be very quick.


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We're going to paint the fence to match the color of our gutters, windows, and down spouts. I'm also going to paint the garage door, a new garage man door, the AC unit, and all the exterior electrical conduit/boxes to match. It's a clay color and Behr has a standard color that matches perfectly. I'm stoked to see the finish product. And I suspect I will be building a similar fence at our next place.

On Sunday a buddy of mine came by to pick up the 3 hens. He took them out to his dad's hobby farm. The hens were spoiled rotten with us, but they are going to be even more spoiled at their new home. The man has an enormous, heated hen house and about 8-12 other hens.

Since the hens were now gone I was able to start disassembling the chicken run and dragged the small hen house into the driveway. Hopefully my driveway contractor can just knock it apart with the mini excavator and haul it off. He's probably going to be out here the week before New Year's Day or the week right after.
 
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