LED Lighting for shop

[rand5204]

They will start framing in my 30 x 48 shop tomorrow. thread here:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291325

I have been reading through lighting threads here and wanted to get some input on the lights I am consuidering. They're LED's from Lowes and appear to be a pretty good crosss between features and costs:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_595685-4392...uctId=50352822&pl=1&Ntt=utilitech+strip+light

These lights produce 3600 lumens @ 4000k color temp

In review, my shop is divided into two parts. One is basically just a parking space for two cars. The area I am particularly concerned about lighting is 28x30 work shop with a 12 ft ceiling. It will be sheetrocked and the ceiling will be painted a semi gloss white.

As I've drawn it out, my lighting plan calls for about 20 of these two tube fixtures in this space. I'd like the space to be pretty bright. I'd love to get thoughts on both the fixtures and the quantity.

Thanks

 

[CJ7VFR]

You can never have too much light! Especially as we get older!

Those lights look nice. The cost is about average, so getting 20 of them, plus tax is going to set you back about $1300 for the 4 foot long ones.

My only suggestion would be to break down the wiring of them into sections of your shop/garage so that you can turn on only what you need when your in there, and not turning them all on all the time.

Maybe have one switch control a single light for when you are just going in and out of the shop/garage quickly to get something or to put the trash/recycling out. And have a second switch for the lights on your shop side, and a third switch to control the lights on the garage side.

This way, you can control how much light you need for your intended purposes from just a little bit of light to everything on all at once.

Post up a picture if you can of your shop/garage layout with the lighting arrangement you are thinking about doing. That would give people a better look at what you are trying to accomplish, and thus get better feedback from everyone.

Jim

 

[Falcon67]

I might have to get one of those for the race trailer. Had not seen them locally yet.

 

[crewchief437]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JB12HEG/?tag=atomicindus08-20
i used 16 of these in my 30x40.
you might want to consider doing this and then supplementing the lighting with those overhead fixtures if its not enough light for your taste. the light is pretty bright throughout the shop but could use a couple overhead with it. just a thought if you wanted to maybe save some money.

 

[CJ7VFR]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JB12HEG/?tag=atomicindus08-20
i used 16 of these in my 30x40.
you might want to consider doing this and then supplementing the lighting with those overhead fixtures if its not enough light for your taste. the light is pretty bright throughout the shop but could use a couple overhead with it. just a thought if you wanted to maybe save some money.

Those are nice!!

How much of a spread does the light have on it in your garage/shop when they are mounted to the ceiling?

Those would make a great less expensive alternative to the 4 foot shop lights if the beam of light spread out far enough!

Jim

 

[rand5204]

CJ7VFR
I was planning on breaking them down into multiple circuits - just hadn't figured out yet what the split would look like

crewchief 437

Those are great lights. I wonder if they could be wired as portable lights for use under a car lift?

I have attached a pretty crude pdf file (hope you can open it) of the 2 different layouts I'm considering. These show the entire building but I'm really focusing on the left side as that is where the work will be done

Looks like the pdf has only one layout on it. The second had basically the same number of lights but running vertically on the drawing instead of horizontally.

 

[crewchief437]

Those are nice!!

How much of a spread does the light have on it in your garage/shop when they are mounted to the ceiling?

Those would make a great less expensive alternative to the 4 foot shop lights if the beam of light spread out far enough!

Jim

i am not sure about the spread of light from the ceiling. I have them mounted at the top of my walls angled down slightly. ill try and get a picture tonight. They dont give light dimensions but here is the manufacturer site with some pics and specs on the light
http://www.lightingever.com/30w-super-bright-led-flood-lights-ww.html

As far as wiring them as a plug in light i dont see why you couldnt. in fact thats a great idea since i ordered 18 and only hung 16.

 

[My Old Tools]

The Costco LED shop lights are pretty equivalent and much cheaper. I'm puttng 20 of those in my shop.

 

[Platonic Solid]

 

[crewchief437]

the flood light has IES

 

[Platonic Solid]

Fixed

 

[Onewolf]

Have you done a lumen density calculation? If the 20 light fixtures are spread out evenly around the 30x48 space then my calculation shows it to be less than 50lu/sq ft. Which is very low for task lighting.

 

[rand5204]

Onewolf,

No I haven't but I'm actually only trying to light the 30 x 28 shop portion of the garage with those 20 fixtures.

I did discover something else that may be a deal killer for me though. The fixtures I identified at the to of the thread are designed to be mounted into sheet rock with anchors. They are not designed to work with outlet boxes. Not sure what the building code would say about that but it makes me want to reconsider

 

[crewchief437]

here is my shop. not the brightest or 100 lumens/sft but not bad for $320 add some supplemental over head and you are good to go.

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[jtpfarm]

I sell these and people love them. I can get you to 75 lumens per sq foot for $1200. Message me if you are interested.

 

[Platonic Solid]

I sell these and people love them. I can get you to 75 lumens per sq foot for $1200. Message me if you are interested.

1. Anyone can buy these direct from the Chinese manufacturer Lonyung LED Lighting Co., for half the price you're selling them at and that includes shipping.
2. The product part number you show is not listed in the UL File. The actual part number for the 4ft is LY-T8DL1200-22W.
3. Intertek warns of counterfeit cETLus Certification mark on Lonyung LED Lighting Company LED lamps.
4. 5 year warranty. Good luck with that.

 

[jtpfarm]

Anybody can buy anything from china. But not for half the price with shipping. Smaller quantities cost much more.

Anybody can buy the lights that you push directly from china too.

The company and part number are listed directly on ETLs website. As well as DLC.

Factory offers 3 year warranty, I take it to 5. Tell me again about the almighty FT32T8 warranty. And the ballast warranty.

My question is, why did you even respond to my post? It wasn't for you, it has nothing to do with you. Yet your intention is to run everyone down that talks about LED. I am a young person trying to start a small business to support a new family and all you can seem to do every time I post is try to shoot it down. You obviously are in the lighting business and anyone can buy the same things you sell from china too. You have nothing special over anyone else. Your grid above is full of lies. I have corrected it for you in the attachment.

I have no doubt you will reply to this with tons of mumbo jumbo about how I am wrong and further put me down but I don't care.

By the way, anyone can order T8 2 bulb fluorescent fixtures from china for less than half of the price you show.

Somehow before I made my previous post I knew that you would be the first reply.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Rather than pollute this thread with a nonsensical ******* contest, jtpfarm see your PM.

 

[cybrdyke]

here is my shop. not the brightest or 100 lumens/sft but not bad for $320 add some supplemental over head and you are good to go.

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I know you love your new garage and all, but I gotta just tell ya...as a lighting guy, this is a classic picture of why we dont use outdoor fixture indoors. The glare in this picture alone is blinding. I can only imagine how bad it is in person.
I'm sorry. You seem like a nice person, but please dont encourage others to follow this path.
CD

 

[crewchief437]

To each his own. 3k vs 300 up to that individual.

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