Let the build begin!

[Boyd Who]

Ok folks, I finally committed myself to finally building a new garage!
You'll have to use your imagination for now, but this hole will become an 18'x22' garage with an 8' ceiling. Taller would be nice, but town regs would make it difficult. I have no plans to have a hoist so I can live with 8'.

Looking north. The OH and man door will be on this end. The road running across the picture is a major highway so I positioned the garage to keep prying eyes from scoping out the shop when I'm working with the door open.

Looking from the northwest. The small barn-style shed will be removed once the garage is up. The old garage in the background will become the new storage shed. I'll have a total of 636 sq ft between the two garages. I can't wait!

 

[Boyd Who]

Re: Let the build begin! **WITH NEW PICS!!**

Little update on the garage build for you!

After some discussion and consideration, we decided to go a bit bigger. The garage will be 20 x 22, and have a 9' ceiling. The slab was started on Monday and finished up today. All it needs now is some backfilling, which will be done tomorrow.

I'm just waiting for a new quote for the garage package, and one from the contractor to build the basic structure. I could built it myself, but it would take forever and probably wouldn't be right.

Here's a few pics...

 

[mustangmccance]

did they install the j-bolts after the last picture or are you anchoring it some other way?

it will be great to have more room. look forward to seeing your progress.

 

[e-tek]

did they install the j-bolts after the last picture or are you anchoring it some other way?

it will be great to have more room. look forward to seeing your progress.

I guess in Canada we do things a little differently. There have been 6 pads and garages go up around me in the past few years and none have ever had J-bolts or anchors. Generally the bottom plate is either Hilti'd or concrete nails are used.

I also have never seen insulation under a pad here - and we're just as cold as Manitoba! Sure can't hurt though!!! Good luck on the build!

 

[mo2872]

No j-bolts here, either. There are 24 anchor bolts that were drilled/hammered in after the framing was locked in at square and plumb, tho....so, guess those are "Hilti's"......the ones with the sleeve that expands as you tighten them.

 

[Bib Overalls]

J-bolts are a pain. Almost always set to deep, on an angle or right where a stud is supposed to go. Also makes the final trowel more difficult. With the efficiency of modern hammer drills there is no need for J-bolts in basic residential construction.

 

[993James993]

Looks great! Was the size limited by town regulations? Is your house from the '20s?

 

[Boyd Who]

Thanks guys!
The slab insulation was decided on just before we started the work. It should help a bit with heat-loss through the ground. My plan is to use a small overheat electric heater in the winter. A buddy of mine in town has one in his 26 x 26 shop and says it's more than enough.
As for j-bolts...I've never seen anyone use them in a build up here. Anchor holes are drilled after the walls are up.
993James...if I'd had the $$ to do it, I could have made the garage 22 x 30 and still been within regulation. My saving grace is that we're keeping the old 12 x 20 garage to use for storage, giving us a total of 680 sq ft. Neither garage will be for parking cars in, aside from the hotrod.
When we bought the house we were told it was built in 1910, but after doing a bit of research we think it may be about 15-20 years older than that. I have a bit more searching through tax records to do to nail it down.

 

[mustangmccance]

well it is always good to learn something new. all of the builds I have been involved in used j-bolts but then most of them were steel framed buildings and the one was my first build years ago. so anyway I learned something and will enjoy watching this build.

 

[gasgas17]

Did they not slope the concrete in the overhead door opening? That has to be the most overlooked detail when it comes to garages. Whom ever built mine did not do it either. Every time we get a heavy rain, it comes in under the door.

 

[Boyd Who]

Did they not slope the concrete in the overhead door opening? That has to be the most overlooked detail when it comes to garages. Whom ever built mine did not do it either. Every time we get a heavy rain, it comes in under the door.

No, there's no slope. I asked about doing it but the contractor said that it really didn't need any slope. The pad sits 5" higher than the yard, plus the door is on the south side and the prevailing winds around here are from the north. The apron will be sloped, though.

 

[mustangmccance]

the concern about that is the same one I am dealing with now. snow melting off the truck in the winter. it gets caked under the truck and everywhere and when it melts it makes a heck of a mess. I had to buy a dedicated shop vac for sucking up water the squeegee works but I had to much snow accumulate outside the shop this year too. I really want a tractor with a loader or a skidsteer for next winter. hopefully you won't have a problem with it. good luck and keep up the pictures.

 

[mustangmccance]

sorry just saw the post you made about not parking the cars in there. so you don't have to worry about that.

 

[Boyd Who]

sorry just saw the post you made about not parking the cars in there. so you don't have to worry about that.

Haha!
No, my wife and I have no plans to use this garage for parking a daily driver in. Workshop and hotrod parking only.
Whoever buys the house after us might have an issue with melting snow, but I don't really care about that.

 

[ddawg16]

J Bolt vs Anchor....a lot depends on the contractor and what equipment he has....

My garage was poured with the J bolts in it....a couple of them were 3' long....(earthquake country).

Some contractors prefer to do it after the fact...they think it takes less time to put the bottom plate on...drill through the wood and into the concrete than it takes to try and make holes to line with with existing bolts......I guess if you already have the hilti...no big deal....but then you have the cost of the epoxy......but, it does eliminate issues with stud placement. In my case I had to move a few studs off 16" center to allow for the placement of the anchor bolt.

Next time I'll be doing the concrete myself and I'll make sure the anchor bolts are where I want them.

 

[Rockerbox1]

the J bolts can be a pain if not placed correctly. I (when working construction) always wanted them to be 10 inches from the corner, then every 4 foot from that. I did have an issue once where my concrete subcontractor placed 2 in bad spots, and then had several too close to the edge, and not straight up and down. makes for more work for the framing.

I like the drive anchors now tho, (not sure the true name) the bolt with the sleeve that expands. and I always went a step above anyway, hammer drill the hole, fill with epoxy, then drive in the anchor bolt and tighten.

as far as water build-up. I like a perfectly flat and level floor for workshop space, but if the garage will be used to park cars in, I put a floor drain in the very center, but 1 inch below the outter edges. a typical 2 car garage here is 24 by 24 foot. so a 1 inch drop from the edge to the center isn't too noticeable, but still very effective

 

[Boyd Who]

Bringing it back to the top.
My trusses were delivered yesterday, the rest of the package comes tomorrow (Friday). My two brothers are coming out Saturday morning to help put the basic shell up. We plan to have the walls and roof up and sheathed and the doors installed. I don't know if we'll be able to start shingling the roof, but I have friends who can help do that. I'm getting quite excited by the whole thing! Pics to follow!

 

[rburke65]

I'm happy for you. Always good to get a new garage!

 

[TRC51]

Congrats! I remember when my lumber starting showing up. The concrete was exciting, but when the sticks go up.... party time! You feel way more in control once the concrete part is done... cause that's a one shot kinda deal.

 

[Gareth]

Congrats! I remember when my lumber starting showing up. The concrete was exciting, but when the sticks go up.... party time! You feel way more in control once the concrete part is done... cause that's a one shot kinda deal.

I totally agree. Getting the concrete down made me feel so much better about everything, as so much is determined by that point.

Looking forward to seeing more progress.

 

[Boyd Who]

Re: Let the build begin! **WITH NEW PICS!!**

Thanks guys! I'll have to show my wife how to use my camera so we can get some progress pics over the weekend.

 

[Boyd Who]

Holy ****, am I tired!!!
Spent 12 hours yesterday and another 8 today working on the garage with my two older brothers. I think we accomplished quite a bit, what do you guys think?

The lumber was delivered late Friday night.

By 9am Saturday we had one wall framed and up.

I'm in the blue shirt, I'm much happier than I appear! LOL

 

[Boyd Who]

BY then end of Saturday we had all four walls up and the trusses in place.

SUnday morning...

By 5pm Sunday the walls and roof were sheathed, the fascia boards on, and the OH door installed. I think I need a nap!

 

[Boyd Who]

Interior shots...

The workbench will go under the window.

The only real headache was they sent me the wrong man-door. It opens the wrong way. They'll swap me for the right one shortly so I can get it installed.

Now that the hard part is done I can rest for a day or two, then start shingling the roof, install the window and door, then start on the soffits and siding. I can't wait till I can start working on the interior details! Woohoo!!

 

[thomask]

BOYD WHO:

Nice build. Keep up the great work up there.

The framing was always my favorite part of a build.

Keep us posted.

 

[Boyd Who]

Thanks Thomask!

 

[Boyd Who]

Another brief update...
Started on the roof today. Got the tar paper up on the east side and 6 rows of shingles done before it got too dark to work. If all goes well I should have the roof done tomorrow.

 

[Boyd Who]

All didn't go well.
They didn't give me enough tar paper for the roof. I got one side completely done and only had enough paper to do one row on the second side. I was hoping to finish the whole roof today. ****.
Maybe tomorrow, if it doesn't rain.

 

[theroyz71]

Looking good Al.

 

[49stude2r6]

Looking good, I for one am pulling for you.

 

[Boyd Who]

Thanks guys!
Between being stupid busy with my business and my parents coming to visit for a few days, I didn't get much done at all until today. I got 80% of the roof shingled now, and if I can get a couple hours for myself tomorrow I should have it totally finished.
By the weekend I hope to have the man door and window installed, too.

 

[Justanoldguy]

I've seen a near fatal with a guy in the firing line like that..

Nice tidy build by the way.

 

[BigE]

How do you keep the wood from rotting over time being that close to finish grade with snow and all?

 

[Boyd Who]

How do you keep the wood from rotting over time being that close to finish grade with snow and all?

The top of the slab is 5" above the grade of the yard. The fill is sloped away from the garage so moisture won't be a big issue. Our yard is mostly sand and drainage is incredible.

 

[Boyd Who]

Roof is 99% done! I still have half of the peak to cover and I can call it a day. Should be done tomorrow afternoon. I finally got the man door installed today as well, now it's on to the window. Once that's done I can bring the Essex home. Woohoo!!

 

[Justanoldguy]

Essex?

Darn, I thought you said "Hot Rod" .. lol

Just kidding. We need pics for sure.

 

[Boyd Who]

Essex?

Darn, I thought you said "Hot Rod" .. lol

Just kidding. We need pics for sure.

Here ya go!
http://www.northwestcoin.ca/essex.html

 

[Boyd Who]

Spent a few more hours on the shop today. The roof is finished, the window installed, and the Essex is parked inside!

Yes, I know the wrap wasn't done right. I've never done this kind of stuff before so I'm surprised I didn't mess even more stuff up!

Got the "new" workbench sitting in place.

Holy ****!! There's actually room to walk around it!!!!!

 

[Boyd Who]

Now that I have space in the old garage I moved all the garden shed **** into it. I then started to demolish the shed. As old and rotten as it was it still put up quite a fight!
The space between the two garages will be levelled and turned into a gravel parking area.

 

[uparms]

B.W.

Congrats from Delaware. You and your rod deserve it.

I'll keep watching.

Nice size.

Uparms