Let the fun begin! The official toybox thread.
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V-10 Killer
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Thanks, and welcome to the forums 
fflintstone
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Are you planning any doors for the cabinets?
M-technik-3
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Like the cabinets, but why use a nice hard wood and then cover it up with paint when you could have used HDF for the majority of the building of them and saved some funds on building them.
I guess I would built the shelves out of wood and the sides from HDF and the tops. Just my $0.02
I guess I would built the shelves out of wood and the sides from HDF and the tops. Just my $0.02
Fueler
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Nice work. I am curious. In the photo with the Pontiac on the rack. Has the floor coating worn away underneath the engine area in 6 months or is that just "stuff" on the floor?
OP
V-10 Killer
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Finished the face frame assembly and corner storage today. I'm gonna let the glue dry and sand/prime/paint more tomorrow.
I just have this thing about fibreboard. Stripped screws, chipping, not holding an edge... I wanted to use plywood, and birch, oak, and blondewood were all the same price. BC pine didn't have as many plys and would warp easier.
It's PVC I believe. I used contact cement to put it down.
It's basically this stuff here:
http://www.carguygarage.com/csm-vl-7620.html
I ordered a smaller piece, and from someone else, so the price wasn't nearly as bad.
I'm actually thinking about lining the bottom of the base cabinets and insides of the drawers with the reminants
Yes, I am going to cover everything with doors. The idea is really to keep dust out of everything. I'm building the recessed panel doors next. If I have to dado everything, I'll probably only get 1-2 doors a day done for the next week or two.
I know. That used to drive me nuts when I'd watch Trading Spaces and they'd take a nice oak furnature piece and paint it
I just have this thing about fibreboard. Stripped screws, chipping, not holding an edge... I wanted to use plywood, and birch, oak, and blondewood were all the same price. BC pine didn't have as many plys and would warp easier.Yeah I noticed that too. I had a leak and was in a hurry and tossed some kitty litter on the puddle. I never made it back out for a while (like 6 weeks or so...) to clean it up. It's not the epoxy's fault, I just daudled too long in cleaning it up
It's PVC I believe. I used contact cement to put it down.
It's basically this stuff here:
http://www.carguygarage.com/csm-vl-7620.html
I ordered a smaller piece, and from someone else, so the price wasn't nearly as bad.
I'm actually thinking about lining the bottom of the base cabinets and insides of the drawers with the reminants
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Omphaloskeptic
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V-10 Killer,
Beautiful work on the cabinets (and all else for that matter)! I'm in the 'wheel-spinning' stage of doing my shop interior finish; getting ideas from the great minds here at GJ. I'm trying to decide what I like, want, can afford, build, re-purpose, and design so it looks like it wasn't made by a troupe of crazed, tool-wielding chimpanzees on acid. lol
May I ask what brand/color/type of primer and finish paint you are using on your cabinets? They really look great in your pictures. Color choices for ceiling, walls, and cabinetry can unify the overall result or can make it look like the chimps were let loose with rollers and brushes too.
Also, your bench top PVC finish is a great idea. I'm afraid to ask for the source and material cost after looking at what 'GarageGuy' wants for his product.
Regards
P.S. - Where does the moniker 'V-10 Killer' come from?
Beautiful work on the cabinets (and all else for that matter)! I'm in the 'wheel-spinning' stage of doing my shop interior finish; getting ideas from the great minds here at GJ. I'm trying to decide what I like, want, can afford, build, re-purpose, and design so it looks like it wasn't made by a troupe of crazed, tool-wielding chimpanzees on acid. lol
May I ask what brand/color/type of primer and finish paint you are using on your cabinets? They really look great in your pictures. Color choices for ceiling, walls, and cabinetry can unify the overall result or can make it look like the chimps were let loose with rollers and brushes too.
Also, your bench top PVC finish is a great idea. I'm afraid to ask for the source and material cost after looking at what 'GarageGuy' wants for his product.
Regards
P.S. - Where does the moniker 'V-10 Killer' come from?
OP
V-10 Killer
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Thanks
I'm using Rustoleum oil based paint over Kilz primer. The faces are gloss black, and the cabinets themselves are 50/50 gloss black and aluminum mix. If I were to do it again, I'd probably do 75% black/25% aluminum.
Right now I'm torn on how I'm gonna finish the doors. I might do the recessed panel in white, or paint it the cabinet color. The black/aluminum mix would be less succeptable to smudges, but the panels themselves are pre-painted white hardboard. I dunno, maybe I'll leave them white initially to see if I like the contrast. It's nice to have options.
Oh, and V-10 Killer, that was wishful thinking back when I started overhaulling my Trans Am. Once I get this ****** back into it, It should run 10.9xx's on motor and 9.9xx's on nitrous. Would give a stockish Viper a good run for it's money lol. Feel free to check it out, the link's in my sig for my webpage.
I'm using Rustoleum oil based paint over Kilz primer. The faces are gloss black, and the cabinets themselves are 50/50 gloss black and aluminum mix. If I were to do it again, I'd probably do 75% black/25% aluminum.
Right now I'm torn on how I'm gonna finish the doors. I might do the recessed panel in white, or paint it the cabinet color. The black/aluminum mix would be less succeptable to smudges, but the panels themselves are pre-painted white hardboard. I dunno, maybe I'll leave them white initially to see if I like the contrast. It's nice to have options.
Oh, and V-10 Killer, that was wishful thinking back when I started overhaulling my Trans Am. Once I get this ****** back into it, It should run 10.9xx's on motor and 9.9xx's on nitrous. Would give a stockish Viper a good run for it's money lol. Feel free to check it out, the link's in my sig for my webpage.
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Omphaloskeptic
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Took a quick peek at your Pontiac...
Holy **** Batman! That beast looks illegal just sitting still. The cops probably issue you speeding tickets even when its parked!
Holy **** Batman! That beast looks illegal just sitting still. The cops probably issue you speeding tickets even when its parked!
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V-10 Killer
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Hey Fueler, I got to looking closer at that yesterday. I had swept all the oil dry up about a week and a half ago, and there's no discoloration under where the ****** fluid dripped. I slight bit of yellow under where I had a fuel fitting leak, but I wonder if some simple green would take it up. For the most part though, It's just some kitty litter dust stuck in the residue on the floor, it still looks pretty good
sloorider
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Just found this tread and read it first to last, very nice work!
If I may and I apoligise if my questions are answered in the posts-
Why did you not put the windows in as/per the concept drawing?
In hind site now, would you make any design changes?
Thou the man door is at the front of the garage which is more accessible from your home, do you think it would be a better entrance by the bench ?
Thanks for your posting, top notch!!!
If I may and I apoligise if my questions are answered in the posts-
Why did you not put the windows in as/per the concept drawing?
In hind site now, would you make any design changes?
Thou the man door is at the front of the garage which is more accessible from your home, do you think it would be a better entrance by the bench ?
Thanks for your posting, top notch!!!
OP
V-10 Killer
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Just found this tread and read it first to last, very nice work!
If I may and I apoligise if my questions are answered in the posts-
Why did you not put the windows in as/per the concept drawing?
In hind site now, would you make any design changes?
Thou the man door is at the front of the garage which is more accessible from your home, do you think it would be a better entrance by the bench ?
Thanks for your posting, top notch!!!
No problem, I don't think it was asked yet. I was trying to focus a little bit on security. I wanted to be able to see every possible entry point to my garage from my dining room window. If I weren't so focused on the security aspect of it, what I would have done differently would be:
1. Move the service door to the side to make the front wall more solid. I'd still keep it near the front for garage door access though.
2. Move the storage room to the right side of the room, so that I could carry stuff from there directly to a trailer (say a camper trailer). Mainly because I have a trailer parking pad on that side, so it makes sense in it's own way.
I still don't think I'd do windows. I thought about skylights, but the R-value would take a hit. And around here with the snowfall, all the guys I know that frame for things like that say "show me a skylight and I'll show you a future leaky window...."
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redman43
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Nice work. Those cutting diagrams sure do look familiar. It most definitely makes things easier.
Nice work. Those cutting diagrams sure do look familiar. It most definitely makes things easier.
944recycler
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love your quote.... it's ture!
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V-10 Killer
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Wow that's creepy lol. I love the color choices too!
I had to show my wife, she swears we must be twins.
She did wonder why you're storage room isn't filled to the top though.
That picture was right after it was done. There's a small water heater, compressor, ladders, power washer and large cardboard pieces in there. But, there's always a path through the middle. And, there's stuff on top of all the cabinets in the garage now.
fljjmarz
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Fantastic work!
What material did you use on the counter top?
What material did you use on the counter top?
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V-10 Killer
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This is where I bought it from, I think my pad was only 14' long though, and it was on sale when I bought it.
http://www.genuinehotrod.com/itemgr...?Floor-Mat-Size=7-5-X-17&Color=Midnight-Black
I had a decent amount left over for side projects, so price vs. use wasn't as bad as one might think.
ddl2004
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Thanks for the link above... Superb build! Also, any plans or room for a loft down the road?
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V-10 Killer
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No, no other major plans for the garage other than finishing up the paint around the garage doors, installing garage door openers and cleaning it up to enjoy. I almost look at it more as my den than my garage. I go out there at least as much to lounge around and surf the net and have a drink as I do to actually work in it. I'll hopefully be all wrapped up in the next 4-6 weeks with the cabinets and have the ****** back in the car so I can give the shop a thorough cleaning.
I'll probably give myself a few month break after that and then jump into remodeling the master bathroom and laundary room in the house. Got some water damage to fix.
I'll probably give myself a few month break after that and then jump into remodeling the master bathroom and laundary room in the house. Got some water damage to fix.
ddl2004
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Water damage is the pits! Good luck with that! We've been remodeling "our" home since we moved it and boy does it get very time consuming. I'm looking forward to working on "my" garage hopefully a week or two before Spring.
Again, good luck with the house!
Again, good luck with the house!
OP
V-10 Killer
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These cabinets are filling up fast, I might need to build a few more lol.
I got the corner cabinet mounted up, I think I'm debating on using a piece of tempered glass, or just doing another door on that one, the opening isn't even close to square for some reason...
I also got the drawer glides mounted, got the boxes built, and the paint's drying on them now.
Storage room doors are painted, although I probably won't hang them until the wife finishes painting the flags on them.
I'm lucky I checked now, I just found out that the offset hinges I bought, you can't mount 2 back to back on a 1x2 without shimming.
I got all the stiles cut for the doors, but I think I'll wait until tomorrow when the paint's dry to cut the rails and drawer faces.
I got the corner cabinet mounted up, I think I'm debating on using a piece of tempered glass, or just doing another door on that one, the opening isn't even close to square for some reason...
I also got the drawer glides mounted, got the boxes built, and the paint's drying on them now.
Storage room doors are painted, although I probably won't hang them until the wife finishes painting the flags on them.
I'm lucky I checked now, I just found out that the offset hinges I bought, you can't mount 2 back to back on a 1x2 without shimming.
I got all the stiles cut for the doors, but I think I'll wait until tomorrow when the paint's dry to cut the rails and drawer faces.
Omphaloskeptic
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It's looking 'Oh So Sweet'!
Did you say your wife is helping you paint some doors? ... 'Oh So-o-o-o Sweet'!
Just gotta ask - what are those mags on the lower left cabinet shelves; the ones with the very interesting 'composite' spines?
Did you say your wife is helping you paint some doors? ... 'Oh So-o-o-o Sweet'!
Just gotta ask - what are those mags on the lower left cabinet shelves; the ones with the very interesting 'composite' spines?
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V-10 Killer
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It's looking 'Oh So Sweet'!
Did you say your wife is helping you paint some doors? ... 'Oh So-o-o-o Sweet'!
Just gotta ask - what are those mags on the lower left cabinet shelves; the ones with the very interesting 'composite' spines?
A few of the earlier Maxim mags and a few years worth of Playboys that got moved out of the house to make room for the wifes aquarium fish mags. She never said I had to get rid of them
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V-10 Killer
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Ok, I need opinions, and the sooner the better. I'm assembling and painting the door frames for the cabinets tomorrow (at least the uppers), and I need to decide whether the filler panel should be white or the graphite mix I used on the insides and sides. Here's a pic of 2 panels, I photoshopped the graphite, but it'd be close to that.
The white is very reflective and would bounce a lot of light back into the room, and it's clearcoated already so it would clean up relatively easy.
The graphite would match the insides, but I don't know if there's enough color contrast. And it adds up to a lot of dark colors.
I could also do white above for reflectivity, and graphite down below where dirty hands are more likely to be.
Please throw your opinions out there for me
The white is very reflective and would bounce a lot of light back into the room, and it's clearcoated already so it would clean up relatively easy.
The graphite would match the insides, but I don't know if there's enough color contrast. And it adds up to a lot of dark colors.
I could also do white above for reflectivity, and graphite down below where dirty hands are more likely to be.
Please throw your opinions out there for me
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jmh21586
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white
Omphaloskeptic
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VXK,
First, I applaud your work again!
In regard to your color choice for the cabinet door faces, the white would keep the light from being 'swallowed up'.
BUT....
Looking at the face of your beverage fridge (brushed SS?), I'd love to see thin sheet inserts like that in both top and bottom cabinets. They would be a striking accent/highlight, easy to clean, light reflecting, and tie-in nicely with the fridge front. If you were able to source thin sheet stock, the wood panels would act as a backing piece to lock each sheet into the face frame. What say you???
First, I applaud your work again!
In regard to your color choice for the cabinet door faces, the white would keep the light from being 'swallowed up'.
BUT....
Looking at the face of your beverage fridge (brushed SS?), I'd love to see thin sheet inserts like that in both top and bottom cabinets. They would be a striking accent/highlight, easy to clean, light reflecting, and tie-in nicely with the fridge front. If you were able to source thin sheet stock, the wood panels would act as a backing piece to lock each sheet into the face frame. What say you???
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V-10 Killer
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VXK,
First, I applaud your work again!
In regard to your color choice for the cabinet door faces, the white would keep the light from being 'swallowed up'.
BUT....
Looking at the face of your beverage fridge (brushed SS?), I'd love to see thin sheet inserts like that in both top and bottom cabinets. They would be a striking accent/highlight, easy to clean, light reflecting, and tie-in nicely with the fridge front. If you were able to source thin sheet stock, the wood panels would act as a backing piece to lock each sheet into the face frame. What say you???
Hmmmmm, that would be do-able. The first thing my wife mentioned when I brought it up was that white would be better on the wall units, but the graphite would match with the fridge much better. Maybe I'll have to price out a few chunks of it tomorrow since I have the day off.
I just have to decide quick if the cost of the stainless inserts is worth it over the price of the paint I already have.
Thanks for the input though
Omphaloskeptic
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VXK,
Thin roll stock might be available in brushed and hopefully not too expensive; good hunting!
Thin roll stock might be available in brushed and hopefully not too expensive; good hunting!
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V-10 Killer
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It's been so long since I've specced sheet metal, I wonder what a reasonable thickness would be. 28ga? It's just a skin anyway, right.
Edit** Just checked ballpark pricing, 24ga 2x2 section ~$40 each, I'd need 5. Wow!
Edit** Just checked ballpark pricing, 24ga 2x2 section ~$40 each, I'd need 5. Wow!
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Omphaloskeptic
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Wow is right, that is spendy! There may be an alternative metal you might consider which might be a good visual match for the fridge. I just assumed it was a SS facing on it; perhaps not. The material on the face of the doors isn't structural, so even if it was roofing tin, aluminum, galvanized, etc., as long as it has the same look as the fridge door, it could blend nicely. The overall look would be very clean and modern. Just my $0.02.
mdbeck1
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Wow is right, that is spendy! There may be an alternative metal you might consider which might be a good visual match for the fridge. I just assumed it was a SS facing on it; perhaps not. The material on the face of the doors isn't structural, so even if it was roofing tin, aluminum, galvanized, etc., as long as it has the same look as the fridge door, it could blend nicely. The overall look would be very clean and modern. Just my $0.02.
Looking nice....
Have you thought of roof flashing? It comes in rolls and you can cut it to the length desired. It should look a LOT like the fridge.
fflintstone
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If you are going to leave the rails and stiles natural wood then the graphite or a slightly lighter color for the panels. If you were to paint the rails and stiles graphite then white might look good on the panels.
Galvanized metal or aluminum flashing might be good as well.
Dark smoke Plexiglas?
Galvanized metal or aluminum flashing might be good as well.
Dark smoke Plexiglas?
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V-10 Killer
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I got the doors assembled for all the uppers a few days ago. I'm going to router a ~1/4" chamfer on the doors before I prime/paint them black, but I should have them mounted and have some fresh pics in another few days. I'm assembling the bottom doors tomorrow, hopefully they'll be primed/painted around the same time.
Then on to getting the lazy susan/doors on and moving the rest of my reloading stuff out.
Then on to getting the lazy susan/doors on and moving the rest of my reloading stuff out.
I think the best look would be painting all of the rails and stiles (floor cabs and wall cabs) black, and all of the insert panels a contrasting color, but the floor cabs matching the wall cabs. I really like the look of stainless, but it's a bear to keep clean. It would be like having chrome door panels - great look, but always dirty. We have stainless kitchen appliances, and it's constant upkeep. What about having paint mixed to match the fridge? If they can match the color, you could clearcoat over it and get pretty close to the look on the fridge.
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