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Thanks for the correction, Timm. I just went and tried a file on six hatchets and it did the job without hurting the file. I don't know why I thought they were so hard, but am glad to have such an easy way to touch up the edge.
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That said, I just took the file to a few axes too and one was hard enough that it'd barely take a cut.

I'm sensitized to file abuse, having put dull stripes on sharp files. I hate it when that happens.
 

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Some hatches and fewer axes have hardened steel inserts forged in. Those you can't usually do with a file My favorite hewing hatchets have that on both the edge an the hammer face.

you can see the shadow of the inlay here:

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^ I wasn't trying to be funny.
A file is what I've always used on axes, hatchets, mauls, my loppers, a sickle, garden shovel, garden spade, transplanting spade, etc.
I DO own stones, but files are WAY faster.
 

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Almost certainly user modified. Looks a lot like a roofing nail. Does it go through?
It does go all the way through and the head on the other side looks the same. The wear pattern on the pin heads suggests to me that it could be factory that's why I asked. I couldn't even find any information on the KK ax head without the pin. I sold the ax last week at a tool meet to a gentlemen who was just as intrigued with it as I was.
 

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I have one axe in my Fulton tool collection. The edge is curved, about 4 1/2" long and the back side is flat. Would this be considered a right handed hewing axe? The handle has been replaced by previous owner and it also came with a custom sheath.
The marking says Fulton, Merit Mark with two stars.
 

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I have one axe in my Fulton tool collection. The edge is curved, about 4 1/2" long and the back side is flat. Would this be considered a right handed hewing axe? The handle has been replaced by previous owner and it also came with a custom sheath.
The marking says Fulton, Merit Mark with two stars.

Yes absolutely Usually those were hatchets with short handles; I've not seen one factory made with a long ax handle, (but I've converted several)
 

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Have a newer axe made by Milwaukee. Solid steel construction, no way the head is coming off under normal usage.
 

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Plumb Belt Hatchet--bought for just that--something that's light, but more solid than my plastic Fiskars.

The handle you see on it is no more. It was a bodge job that involved a chunk of wood to shim a hammer handle with the wrong size and shape of eye (it was, at least, 1/2 too small). It was so loose, it likely would've flown off if I used the axe. It took two taps with my hammer to get it off. e

I just need to finish fitting the proper size handle I bought at the feed store a couple days ago and get it posted with the RIGHT handle. I used to avoid buying heads with no handles, but bodge jobs have become so common with what I find--I prefer just spending the extra few bucks to get a new handle that fits well.

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I cleaned up the hatchet I found in the pond (again). It decided to shed another layer of rust, so I helped a bit using a hammer. I still don't see any makers marks, darn it!

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I picked up this PLUMB hatchet at the Habitat store, after someone tried haggling the price down from $5 and lost the argument. I didn't argue.

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I'm not usually a fan of stickers, but I'm not sure there will be another mark stamped underneath it; so, I'm leaving it be.

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It's got wedges holding the head on, so apparently that makes it pre-1955, when they started using Permabond. I like the rounded **** on the handle and the red stain reminds me of a PLUMB axe my grandfather had at the cabin.

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It doesn't look like this one has ever been sharpened (I'm not complaining).

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I still don't see any makers marks, darn it!
In all seriousness, Tom, I would have some fun turning that into a display relic. Coat the handle with a nice stain and seal it with a glossy shellac. Same with the head. Seal it, as is, in all the glorious hematite, with polyurethane. Then I would hang it somewhere, with a little museum-quality card: [Lizzie Borden, ca. 1892] :)
 

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In all seriousness, Tom, I would have some fun turning that into a display relic. Coat the handle with a nice stain and seal it with a glossy shellac. Same with the head. Seal it, as is, in all the glorious hematite, with polyurethane. Then I would hang it somewhere, with a little museum-quality card: [Lizzie Borden, ca. 1892] :)
It reminds me of a shotgun I found in the South Santiam river on a fishing trip. Looked like it had been there for decades. The guy whose boat we were fishing from asked if he could have it. He shot it with some satin PU and hung it over his fireplace, where it is today--thirty years later.
 

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I'm sure any markings fell off with the flakes

I'm not giving up hope! I'll bet it says PLUMB under that rust.
(based on the shape of the **** of the handle)
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It sat beside the wood stove in the shop this winter and was sluffing another layer.
Here's a bephore photo.

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In all seriousness, Tom, I would have some fun turning that into a display relic.

Nah, it's still got some life left. Time to sharpen it up and put it to work!
 
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Re: Let's see your axe's

The True Temper Flint Edge Kelly Works single bit axe came straight from the farm. It was seriously beaten. Used as a splitting maul it was mushroomed and had several deep dings in the bit.

I managed to clean up most of the damage. A small spot still exist on either side of the bit. I sanded this one up and polished it. It came out so nice I decided to experiment with bluing one. After bluing it I ran the edge back across the sander to clean the bluing off the bit.
thats a nice piece, real clean lines on it and the grind looks pretty even from the pics. shape looks like itd split decent without being some goofy overbuilt mall ninja thing. old kelly works stuff always has more character than most of the new junk too.
 

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I'm not giving up hope! I'll bet it says PLUMB under that rust.
(based on the shape of the **** of the handle)
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It sat beside the wood stove in the shop this winter and was sluffing another layer.
Here's a bephore photo.

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Nah, it's still got some life left. Time to sharpen it up and put it to work!
lol that thing is about one hard swing away from becoming archaeology. id hang it on the wall before i trusted it with any actual work.
 

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Have a newer axe made by Milwaukee. Solid steel construction, no way the head is coming off under normal usage.
That's the reason I still have an Estwing, even though I rarely use it as a general-purpose hatchet.

A year or two ago, I had a Stihl Forestry Hatchet handy along with my chainsaw (or I may have just used the axe itself--don't remember) cutting some dead trees, and needed to drive a plastic wedge. The head loosened up from just that one job. Definitely NOT made for hammering.

Need to check with my dealer; as it uses a weird circular wedge; and it may be covered under a warranty as well.

In addition, the rather heavy Estwing drives them better.
 

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I cleaned up the hatchet I found in the pond (again). It decided to shed another layer of rust, so I helped a bit using a hammer. I still don't see any makers marks, darn it!

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Tie a confession note to it and rebury it where it can be discovered in the future.
 

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Looks like that is likely a very old axe.


They stopped advertising axes in 1878.

One thing you have to be very careful about concerning old axes, is that when an older company was bought out or up by a larger company, the brand of axe was continued in production to capitalize on the old name. In fact most of the axe brands or names of axes sold in the 20th century by the major manufacturers were previously used by older companies they bought out or bought the rights to. I have a "Blood" brand hewing axe, which is a really old-looking style and a really cool name, and the original Blood company was gone at some point back in the 19th century, but one of the big axe companies of the 20th century continued to make and sell that brand, and I have a hatchet of the same brand also, and my guess is they are probably 20th century axes by a large company, not really old ones made when Mr. Blood was still hammering them out. A friend of mine told me he had an 19th century axe a few years ago and I asked him how he knew it was that old, and he said he could see how it was forged. I popped his bubble by showing him a film made in the 1960s at an axe company in New England that was still making axes every day using it's same old trip-hammers and methods it had been using back into the 19th century. The industrial revolution came along and pretty much everything that was made after the Civil War was made in a similar way to how tools in the 20th century were made. So what looks really old to people today, is usually something from sometime in the 20th century, and even if it is from the 19th century post civil-war, it was usually mass produced using water or steam powered machinery, not by some blacksmith in a village shed.
 

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One thing you have to be very careful about concerning old axes, is that when an older company was bought out or up by a larger company, the brand of axe was continued in production to capitalize on the old name. In fact most of the axe brands or names of axes sold in the 20th century by the major manufacturers were previously used by older companies they bought out or bought the rights to. I have a "Blood" brand hewing axe, which is a really old-looking style and a really cool name, and the original Blood company was gone at some point back in the 19th century, but one of the big axe companies of the 20th century continued to make and sell that brand, and I have a hatchet of the same brand also, and my guess is they are probably 20th century axes by a large company, not really old ones made when Mr. Blood was still hammering them out. A friend of mine told me he had an 19th century axe a few years ago and I asked him how he knew it was that old, and he said he could see how it was forged. I popped his bubble by showing him a film made in the 1960s at an axe company in New England that was still making axes every day using it's same old trip-hammers and methods it had been using back into the 19th century. The industrial revolution came along and pretty much everything that was made after the Civil War was made in a similar way to how tools in the 20th century were made. So what looks really old to people today, is usually something from sometime in the 20th century, and even if it is from the 19th century post civil-war, it was usually mass produced using water or steam powered machinery, not by some blacksmith in a village shed.

I completely understand your point. It does make it frustrating to try and date examples when something was made from (for example) 1918 to 1974 with no change to process or tooling.

However, in this particular case, I've come across no evidence that axe production continued after the Perkins brother's involvement in the company. From what I can gather, they were a relatively obscure regional producer. If anyone bought the tooling and continued production, there would be little incentive to keep the brand markings. Additionally, their claim to fame was for the 'Mishawaka' pattern. The axe in question is a more than likely a broad axe, which was not what they were known for producing, leaving less incentive to keep the company name on there. Finally, if a different company had continued production under that name, I'd question why there aren't more examples floating around.

This is all speculation. Unfortunately, the truth is likely lost to time. You are spot on with your point, however, I tend to think the evidence points towards this being a very old, and likely very rare axe.
 

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I've been working on a early brace study and have been working with a couple historical societies. One of them just sent me a copy of a document they are working on. (Are they ever really finished?) Anyway I notice a axe factory on the cover image and they talk about it a little.
 

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This is the no-brand woodshed splitting axe from a friend's remote hunting lodge, as found:

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The handle is splintered near and into the eye of the axe. I was able to pull the head off with one hand, so chose not to split any wood with it. There was no wood wedge, just a single metal one driven across the grain and deeply into the handle.

After a little work:

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I used some 20-minute epoxy to consolidate the splintered shoulder and eye end of the handle, both inside and outside the eye. Sanded down using an RO sander and 150 grit, then hit it with several coats of BLO, head included.

Let's see how long it takes to get back into the condition as found....
 
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I tend to think the evidence points towards this being a very old, and likely very rare axe.
100% agree. To argue to the contrary would require evidence of some later enterprise not only making lookalike axes but marking them "H. & W. BEMENT".

I just discovered that Tom Lamond's Yesteryears Tools site, the best, most comprehensive site for antique axes I have ever seen, was no longer active. You can still Wayback it.
 

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^ Only halfway decent handle I could find. Made in Mexico. Took it down with 80-grit, then 150-grit paper, and put some boiled linseed oil on it. Turned out pretty nice. That axe belongs to a rental unit and unfortunately takes a lot of abuse (along with its little brother below.)(I found the Stanley hammer out in one of the flowerbeds.)
 

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I have a couple I picked up a few years ago that are in really good condition with original handles.
They stay hanging in my shed for the time being.
One is a Mastercraft 3 ½ pound one made by Mann Edge probably back in the late 70's or early 80's.
The other is another 3 ½ pound one made in Germany. The label on the handle is worn down but it
kind of looks like Excelsior.
 

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