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freudianfloyd

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Good Lord, I need to move to "Nowhere" so I can find some deals like you seem to constantly run into.

I rarely run into them, it's almost a full time job finding these things. I don't live anywhere near a logging community, so it is few and far between for good saws.
 

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Don't take this the wrong way, but you should read up on some felling techniques before using it again. Lucky that didn't give you issues.


I think I should have made the face cut a bit larger, but otherwise I believe I used proper technique. I'm open to constructive criticism as I'm learning and getting better. I've got lots more trees to take down on my property and want to do them effeciently and safely.
 

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you cut a "V" notch then cut into it from the other side - at different hts. and be sure you know which goes where

besides the direction you WANT to fall it into, there is also any lean the tree hs - that's why all good loggers are tree huggers

get up close and personal with the trunk - no social distancing - hug it and look up to see the lean
 

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you cut a "V" notch then cut into it from the other side - at different hts. and be sure you know which goes where

besides the direction you WANT to fall it into, there is also any lean the tree hs - that's why all good loggers are tree huggers

get up close and personal with the trunk - no social distancing - hug it and look up to see the lean


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Here's a different angle. The tree had a pretty good lean to it and I tried accounting for the lean. It dropped right where I was aiming (man door on the back of my garage). Unless I'm missing something, I think I could have made the notch/face cut larger, and been a bit more even with the hinge wood, but I think overall I did pretty well. I'm pretty new to chainsaws and felling.
 

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take a look at that OSH site - there are things that can go wrong and kill you or put you in a hospital

like kickback, or a tree that's hung up on a little ledge in the cut you didn't think about
 

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It took both 192Ts to get one good one,, but after getting it cleaned up and running, I think this one will stay in my collection.

Before:
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I picked up these two old Stihls just a few hours ago. Paid $30 for the pair. Put fresh fuel in the 011 and it fired right up and idles and runs great.
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What’s your process for cleaning those saws up so well? That 192 looks practically new


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I've got my grandfather's Stihl 011 that he purchased in 1989. Runs great, for about 10 minutes and then the coil craps out. So need to find another one (sadly only Chinesium ones available it appears). Nice find on those - my 011 is a top handle and really cuts above its weight range.
 
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What’s your process for cleaning those saws up so well? That 192 looks practically new


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They don't always look this good after, I got luck on this one.

I do it a bit different for each saw. For these I tried a new type of cleaner/degreaser, I think it was called Formula 88 from Lowes. I disassembled the saw, coated them in the cleaner and let them sit. After that, I put them in my parts washer and scrubbed them with kerosene, then took them out in the yard and sprayed ever thing down with compressed air (wear safety glasses, that stuff ALWAYS finds a way to hit me in the eye) and then wiped the parts down with a rag.

Sometimes, LA's Totally Awesome and a magic eraser does a really good job.
 

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take a look at that OSH site - there are things that can go wrong and kill you or put you in a hospital

like kickback, or a tree that's hung up on a little ledge in the cut you didn't think about

Yep, take a look around at everything. Last one I felled, I failed to do this, and missed the thin vines which were holding onto the trunk. Made my cuts, wondered why the stupid thing wasn't falling...oh, it's being held up by 1/4" dia vines. Got those cut and down the tree went in its intended direction, but they might have pulled it in some other direction.
 

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My FIL cut trees forever, and I learned from him. Not necessarily the "right" way, as I'm learning now, watching videos from professionals, etc. I'm trying to relearn how to cut trees (other than the "farmer" method of a front wedge cut and back cut), using felling wedges more often to control the fall direction.

And, as mentioned above, never ignore the tree's natural lean. And, never be afraid to put down the saw and pick up the winch.

Pic below of my Husqvarna 350.

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My FIL cut trees forever, and I learned from him. Not necessarily the "right" way, as I'm learning now, watching videos from professionals, etc. I'm trying to relearn how to cut trees (other than the "farmer" method of a front wedge cut and back cut), using felling wedges more often to control the fall direction.

And, as mentioned above, never ignore the tree's natural lean. And, never be afraid to put down the saw and pick up the winch.

Pic below of my Husqvarna 350.

Mike

Look up on Youtube the video entitled "WORLD'S BEST TREE FELLING TUTORIAL! Way more information than you ever wanted on how to fell a tree!" by Guilty of Treeson

This is one of the best tree-falling videos that I have ever watched, bar none (get it, heh heh)! They clearly explain the types of cuts and the terminology which is very helpful for those not in the business.

Let me give an example of what I mean: in the above video, they mention a "Dutchman" (youtuber Buckin' Billy calls it the "flying Dutchman") - that is where you have a horizontal cut extending beyond the notch or face cut. It is very dangerous because it can cause the tree to prematurely break off the hinge or holding wood as it is falling which severs the trunk from the stump, thereby allowing the tree to free-fall uncontrollably.

From what I have been able to gather, there was a famous professional wrestler (Otto F. "Dutch" Kleiber) known as "The Flying Dutchman", and this nickname morphed into a wrestling term/hold. I suspect that this is where the term came from as used in logging/tree falling (my grandfather was a logger and loved watching wrestling every Saturday night back in the day) - if you make this felling mistake, the tree snaps off the trunk too soon as it is coming down and lands like "The Flying Dutchman."

The takeaway for most of us weekenders - learn the terms, and avoid making a 'Dutchman' when you are cutting down a tree. :)
 

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It's OK, just needs more weight in the back (and stronger front spindles).

It's a Johnny Bucket Jr. on a Craftsman GS6500 tractor. Best thing about the tractor (for this application) is the foot-controlled hydro ******.

The loader is really just a beefed up front scoop, with electric actuators. Works well for moving stuff around, including picking up mulch, loam and gravel (from a pile). Doesn't lift very high at all.

But, I bought the whole setup (used, but with a nearly new engine) for less than the cost of a hydraulic loader alone.

The PO used cheap switches. It keeps blowing fuses and/or burning through switches, so I need to convert it to marine rocker switches and automotive relays.

Mike
 
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Swear I posted in this, but don't see anything.

ECHO
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CS-352-16

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Echo PAS Pole Saw
 

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What really peaked my interest about the MS250 is that the MS251 was supposed to replace it many years ago, but customers like the MS250 so much Stihl keeps producing them. That really says a lot about a product. The GJ'er in me really wanted to get the MS261 as I know that is a much nicer saw, but I am really glad I didn't spend the $$ on it as I doubt I will ever cut enough wood to justify it's additional cost.

Better P:W, 2 piston rings, 2 bar studs...

It must have earned its keep, or it would be discontinued. For the price though, it's hard to ignore a CS-490.
 

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I have a few Echo chainsaws. (3) Echo CS-280E, 500VL, (3) Echo CS-510, CS-520, CS-8000, QV-8000, CS-620PW, CS-450. The 510/520 are my favorite saws for firewood.

If I can find a 620-PW w/ the new X series black sprocket cover (and preferably bar) that will be the next money pit.
 

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Here's one I pulled off the shelf today - Stihl BLK 58. One of Stihl's first one-man saws. 105cc, produced from late 50's through the early 70's. Picked it up in Sweden a few years ago; was visiting my buddy Magnus and came from a friend of his.
 

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Here's one I pulled off the shelf today - Stihl BLK 58. One of Stihl's first one-man saws. 105cc, produced from late 50's through the early 70's. Picked it up in Sweden a few years ago; was visiting my buddy Magnus and came from a friend of his.

Imagine the man running that all day.
 

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Here's one I pulled off the shelf today - Stihl BLK 58. One of Stihl's first one-man saws. 105cc, produced from late 50's through the early 70's. Picked it up in Sweden a few years ago; was visiting my buddy Magnus and came from a friend of his.


That looks like a beast of a machine! How much does that weigh?


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My 041G estate sale find from a few years back.
 

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Not mine but could be a pretty good deal for someone in far eastern NC.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1290351887984655

Stihl 024AV Super for $30 with an 18" bar - runs but is hard to start, for those who don't want to click on the link - hell, that is worth it for the air cleaner alone (which apparently is unobtanium for 024s). I have this same saw and I love it. Great power-to-weight ratio for most jobs and firewood.
 

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Stihl 090. It was used for cutting table tops from stumps.
 

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freudianfloyd

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Here's one I pulled off the shelf today - Stihl BLK 58. One of Stihl's first one-man saws. 105cc, produced from late 50's through the early 70's. Picked it up in Sweden a few years ago; was visiting my buddy Magnus and came from a friend of his.

That saw is awesome. I sometimes travel to Germany for work, Im going to have to look around next time I am out there.
 

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That saw is awesome. I sometimes travel to Germany for work, Im going to have to look around next time I am out there.

Yep. Not too difficult to find in Germany. This one just brought $800 on eBay. There's a website in Europe that's their equivalent to Craigslist. You can find plenty of them there.
 
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Andreas Stihl made an electrically powered saw in 1926.

Here's another early one from my collection - the Stihl BL. 125cc. Came out in 1950.

That thing looks awesome, but seriously awkward to operate. Would be an amazing candidate for restoration.
 
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