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bagged89s10

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The metal gets extremely hot. The plastic cover protects you from burns.

Yeah but it's just ugly.

Darwin protects me from burning my self on metal near a light bulb. :)

Haha

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-1...180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4980a4ac

Only $620 shipped to your door. What a bargain.
I used sarcasm font.


Yeah I saw that, insane!

A 1/4 hp round top just went for $112 on eBay today. Thats a little high too but that's eBay.



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What's the difference in casting marks in bench grinder stands bases. I'm assuming they were made in different factories? Anyone know?

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Same on the tops of the stands
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Pickup up a really clean 1/2 HP commercial round top with stand and a tool holder.

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Just need to fix the light. This one is the nicest of the 3 I've purchased. Has anyone found any cheap light replacements that match the ones from these grinders?


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Here are some more pictures of my 397.19591

It looks like this unit was only used once. I took it off the stand because the stand is getting sent to a fellow GJ member. Which cover is the date under?

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Here are some more pictures of my 397.19591

It looks like this unit was only used once. I took it off the stand because the stand is getting sent to a fellow GJ member. Which cover is the date under?
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I have the same model with no date stamp. Early 70's is my best guess. Last of the round tops. It's a great grinder. Congratulations!
 

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The one with the wiring diagram. If it's there it's on the other side.


Yes, that's where it was on my other round top right on the bottom of the unit but not on this one or my flat top. Maybe they stopped putting mfg dates after a certain year?


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Here are some more pictures of my 397.19591

It looks like this unit was only used once. I took it off the stand because the stand is getting sent to a fellow GJ member. Which cover is the date under?

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So I ended up staying up pretty late last night because I was cleaning this thing up. Went to bed at 3am and now up for work m.
Man I'm tired

Took apart and cleaned my 397.19591
I didn't realize this was a 7" model. Ring tested the stones and they are perfect.
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It's is such good shape that I'm not going to bother painting it. I just cleaned and waxed it.

Here are the instructions for the grinding attachment. They are not very detailed so I hope I got it installed correctly.
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So I ended up staying up pretty late last night because I was cleaning this thing up. Went to bed at 3am and now up for work m.
Man I'm tired

Took apart and cleaned my 397.19591
I didn't realize this was a 7" model. Ring tested the stones and they are perfect.
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It's is such good shape that I'm not going to bother painting it. I just cleaned and waxed it.

Here are the instructions for the grinding attachment. They are not very detailed so I hope I got it installed correctly.
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Here is the finished product. I need to find a metal light fixture/cover and need to paint the stand. I lightly oiled up the stand base for now which Is the most rusted on he stand. I have to wait for warm weather. Still in the 30s here in CT. I think it looks real nice.

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Here is the finished product. I need to find a metal light fixture/cover and need to paint the stand. I lightly oiled up the stand base for now which Is the most rusted on he stand. I have to wait for warm weather. Still in the 30s here in CT. I think it looks real nice.
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bagged - It looks great! The Wilton in the background sets the stage nicely. :thumbup:

The stand bases tend to get the worst of the rust, but respond well to media blasting.

One piece of advice, the stones show signs of aluminum grinding. They should be ring tested and dressed before use.
 
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Looks pretty slick Bagged. That Grinder looks nice on that stand. great combo.
I liked the idea of the rubber feet someone posted couple pages back. definitely going to barrow that idea.
 

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^ Nice score and grinder (love the round top with crown to boot).:thumbup:


Thanks tx

bagged - It looks great! The Wilton in the background sets the stage nicely. :thumbup:

The stand bases tend to get the worst of the rust, but respond well to media blasting.

One piece of advice, the stones show signs of aluminum grinding. They should be ring tested and dressed before use.


It's funny how underneath the base there is almost no rust.
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I think a wire wheel will take care of it. I don't have a media blaster and trying to keep my cost down. How much do you think most places charge to blast something like this stand?

Yes the left stone needs to be dressed? Any recommendations on what tool to buy?. I know HF sells one but I don't want my stones ruined. I did ring tested them and they sound beautiful.

Looks pretty slick Bagged. That Grinder looks nice on that stand. great combo.

I liked the idea of the rubber feet someone posted couple pages back. definitely going to barrow that idea.


Yes I'm putting some of those or similar feet in mine as well.


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Yes the left stone needs to be dressed? Any recommendations on what tool to buy?. I know HF sells one but I don't want my stones ruined. I did ring tested them and they sound beautiful.

The best dresser would be a single point diamond type as it will true up the wheel as well as "dress" it. You can find them on fleabay for around $10.
 

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My comments follow in Blue.

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It's funny how underneath the base there is almost no rust.
Yes, some times I don't even need to blast them much more than to remove minor rust in the corners. I suppose it's from all the **** that is dropped/splashed on their top sides? :dunno:
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I think a wire wheel will take care of it.
That works, just takes a bit longer.
I don't have a media blaster and trying to keep my cost down. How much do you think most places charge to blast something like this stand?
I haven't had any experience with paying someone.
I have been adding $15 for the stands I've sold recently, if the buyer chooses.
It's not a well paid job, I have spent 1 - 3 hours cleaning them up.
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Yes the left stone needs to be dressed? Any recommendations on what tool to buy?. I know HF sells one but I don't want my stones ruined. I did ring tested them and they sound beautiful.
I have this 1, I've used it for about 6 months and done about a dozen stones.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B10LM6O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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Are you talking about the same type that TORUEMAN shared?

It's like the SECOND diamond tool he posted (above).

They come in several styles, long and stubby, and both are intended to be mounted into a holder for use. Typical holder for a surface grinder would be a block of steel that sticks to the magnetic chuck for dressing the wheel. Another typical holder is simply a thick bar to act as a handle as you shape/true the wheel by hand.

I recently bought a few stubbies and made my own holder for dressing bench grinder wheels. I had seen an image somewhere (can't recall where) and emulated the design. I have a box of old sewing machine parts and found a usable fine-thread tube in which to mount the diamond "bit". I drilled & tapped a hole in the bit to fix it to the tube. I used a scrap of Delrin plastic (similar to nylon and easy to machine) for the block. I have no idea what the thread size was on the tube, but I ground a few notches on the tube OD and it cut it's own threads into the Delrin block. I added a series of threaded holes for the guide bar on the block.

In use you adjust the block to fit on your grinder's steady rest, and simply move it across the wheel face to true it up.
 

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Here's the 1/2 HP that showed up Monday.
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Here's the 1HP that arrived today.
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Now I just need to figure out where all this goes :lol_hitti
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Here's the 1/2 HP that showed up Monday.

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Here's the 1HP that arrived today.

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Now I just need to figure out where all this goes :lol_hitti

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Nice additon? :thumbup: it's like me when I was trying to figure out how to attach the tool holder to mine.


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MT: i might have saved a picture of that 1 HP grinder with all the attachments on it if you need one. or i think one of the members posted it on this thread just before you bought it. very nice duo and can't wait to see how you line them up with different wheels.

ALL: i have a different diamond truing tool that is more like a piece of 1/2 inch square stock with a diamond in the end of it. probably a 1/16 or less caret or maybe it's a full caret imbedded inside the stock.:eyecrazy:
 

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It's like the SECOND diamond tool he posted (above).

They come in several styles, long and stubby, and both are intended to be mounted into a holder for use. Typical holder for a surface grinder would be a block of steel that sticks to the magnetic chuck for dressing the wheel. Another typical holder is simply a thick bar to act as a handle as you shape/true the wheel by hand.

I recently bought a few stubbies and made my own holder for dressing bench grinder wheels. I had seen an image somewhere (can't recall where) and emulated the design. I have a box of old sewing machine parts and found a usable fine-thread tube in which to mount the diamond "bit". I drilled & tapped a hole in the bit to fix it to the tube. I used a scrap of Delrin plastic (similar to nylon and easy to machine) for the block. I have no idea what the thread size was on the tube, but I ground a few notches on the tube OD and it cut it's own threads into the Delrin block. I added a series of threaded holes for the guide bar on the block.

In use you adjust the block to fit on your grinder's steady rest, and simply move it across the wheel face to true it up.


Yea I need one of those stubby guys with the adjustable block. I saw a guy on you tube using it but didn't get a chance to look them up. Good idea to make your own.


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Sez the guy who built the robot in the other corner of the arena.

SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY !!!
Blockmeister -vs- MegaBlock

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This place is just bad. I am in the market for a drill press and maybe a second grinder, and now I will of course settle for nothing less than something old and vintage because of all you Craftsmen hoarders!:lol:
 

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This place is just bad. I am in the market for a drill press and maybe a second grinder, and now I will of course settle for nothing less than something old and vintage because of all you Craftsmen hoarders!:lol:


Very bad! Very bad.! I blame garage journal for my old vintage tool problem. :thumbup:


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