Htscheg
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Beautiful!
let's see your craftsman block grinders
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Farmall450
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I was gonna say, it looks significantly different than my '59
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294627
Gorgeous block Adrian.
Farmall450
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Yes, that Pre block I found above is a thing of beauty, almost art worthy, IMHO.
So compared to that this will be mundane, another 70's block found in its cardboard box, mint, unused;
Have been so busy @ work haven't posted in a while, now I am catching up. That brings my "boxed block" total to 8, plus 1 new w/out a box and too many loose used ones to count
That is stunning. Amazing how someone dropped that sort of coin back in the day to not use them.
Farmall450
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CL pickings in SE Michigan have been 'not so great' lately.
There are several 1/3-HP Blocks at eBay prices.
And to top it off, the seller tossed in a CM die grinder for $5 more.
Same here. Found a 1/2 horse on stand for $120 in my town but the condition doesn't really warrant it, IMO.
MercLSU
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Mundane....hah!
I see you're still at it...one day you should post a separate thread, or a least a post on this thread of the largest CM block grinder collection known to man. I may be headed down to Gulfport to pick up a motor and ****** soon, depending on how things stack up. If so, I may hit you up to check out the museum of block...
Gents, sorry for the delay, been stupid crazy at work, year end rush, even went in on a Sunday!
This thing is a beast weighing in over 65lbs! This may be my new holy grail grinder!!!
Absolutely awesome find. Please forward this post to the Pre-Block thread as well.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339921&highlight=block+where's+love
EOC_Jason
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Awww, it's got a scratch on it... you don't want that... I'll take it off your hands, feel free to ship it to me... 
In all honestly, that is super nice and very cool with the original box and all...
In all honestly, that is super nice and very cool with the original box and all...
Gents, sorry for the delay, been stupid crazy at work, year end rush, even went in on a Sunday!
On with the eye candy; when I spotted this in this condition I knew I had to have it, all original, used maybe 2-3 times in its entire existence??? Many pics ahead!!
drivesitfar
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CAJUN: so 8 NOS (new old stock blocks) and more than a few old blocks sitting around? i think we need a few pictures don't we? anybody else agree?
WOW!!
WOW!!
cajunfirehawk
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Well...thanks to this thread and Dr Block!
A few old blocks, I have ALL of these plus some not shown; need updated pics, no time
IMG_2798 by Cajun Firehawk, on FlickrCraftsman Stands, a few...
20171215_124448 by Cajun Firehawk, on FlickrBoxxed Blocks, 7 in boxes, 1 minus a box (top row far left in bag)
IMG_4571 by Cajun Firehawk, on Flickr
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drivesitfar
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Big Wheels: welcome to GJ and looks like you came with the right stuff. how long have you owned OLD RELIABLE?
CAJUN: so when does your store open so we can stop by and SHOP? OMG that is some nice stuff.
just a hint i've had more than a few of those Craftsman stands and i found out they take up less space when storing them if you unbolt them and put them in a pile on a shelf maybe just below ALL YOUR NEW OLD STOCK BLOCKS.
WELL DONE!! on gathering up all of those.
just curious which one(s) do you use or have you had so much fun collecting them that you haven't made room for the users yet?
CAJUN: so when does your store open so we can stop by and SHOP? OMG that is some nice stuff.
just a hint i've had more than a few of those Craftsman stands and i found out they take up less space when storing them if you unbolt them and put them in a pile on a shelf maybe just below ALL YOUR NEW OLD STOCK BLOCKS.
WELL DONE!! on gathering up all of those.
just curious which one(s) do you use or have you had so much fun collecting them that you haven't made room for the users yet?
Well...thanks to this thread and Dr Block!
A few old blocks, I have ALL of these plus some not shown; need updated pics, no time
Craftsman Stands, a few...
IMG_5804 by Cajun Firehawk, on Flickr
Boxxed Blocks, 7 in boxes, 1 minus a box (top row far left in bag)
I recognize that box on the top right
ProGun3400
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Craftsman 115 19500
Spotted this one a few days ago on CL for $50 with stand. Was browsing in tools section today & came across it again. The price was dropped to $25 so I called the guy. He suggested I come this afternoon so I did. It's rough but I was more interested in the stand. The grinder does work but it's missing some parts
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=715901&stc=1&d=1514081309
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=715901&stc=1&d=1514081367
Spotted this one a few days ago on CL for $50 with stand. Was browsing in tools section today & came across it again. The price was dropped to $25 so I called the guy. He suggested I come this afternoon so I did. It's rough but I was more interested in the stand. The grinder does work but it's missing some parts
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=715901&stc=1&d=1514081309
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cajunfirehawk
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ProGun3400
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Nice. Where were you able to locate replacement bearings?
ProGun3400
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Ordered a set of Nachi's (6203) from ebay, but there are many sources including McMaster, Accurate Bearings, etc.
Outlawmws
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Question for the Guru's": Do the 1/2 and 1/3 HP blocks take the same bearings?
I know its somewhere in the 10K posts, but...
I know its somewhere in the 10K posts, but...
EOC_Jason
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I *think* the 1/3 is a smaller arbor size?
Outlawmws
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That could be just a shoulder on the shaft.
smalltown
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Progun3400 nice find. Just those stands go for way more than that.
ProGun3400
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Thank you
ProGun3400
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Thanks, I've been seeing that....
Bobioz1
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I've replaced them in 1/3 to 1 h.p. and they all take the same bearing.
Outlawmws
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Thanks!
Makes sense. It they all use the same basic end bells, they would fit the same bearing OD.
hey guys, I have a flat top crown top logo, mid 70s 1/2 hp block. I've taken the inner guards off since it has no outer guards anyway, and put on coarse & fine wire wheels. I've had to use washers as spacers to get the nuts to tighten, the wire wheels are too thin and I run out of threads.
Is there any length or amount of spacers that is 'too much' or unsafe? I was thinking of cutting a length of pipe to add even more space between these wire wheels and the motor to get even more access with unwieldy and weird shaped things.
Is there any length or amount of spacers that is 'too much' or unsafe? I was thinking of cutting a length of pipe to add even more space between these wire wheels and the motor to get even more access with unwieldy and weird shaped things.
drivesitfar
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Cheech: i've heard some of the guys use 2 or maybe 3 wire wheels on a side cause they like the extra coverage which might help your spacing issue. hope one of them sees your post or maybe try it and see if it helps. also make sure to put on your facemask and wear thick clothing when wire wheeling or you'll look like a pin cushion or worse maybe put out an eye.
good luck
good luck
EOC_Jason
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I would say as long as you can thread the nut on completely then you are okay. They are threaded so as it spins it keeps tight (obviously).
I will use washers too, making sure to get some that are the proper ID for the shaft, if they are off-center it will cause excessive vibration.
Like drives said, some people will stack two (or more) wheels together to get a wider surface area, however be conscience of your HP and what you are wanting to wire wheel as you don't want to bog it down.
Spend the money for USA or other quality wire wheels... The cheap chinese crimped ones at the big box stores come apart very quickly...
I will use washers too, making sure to get some that are the proper ID for the shaft, if they are off-center it will cause excessive vibration.
Like drives said, some people will stack two (or more) wheels together to get a wider surface area, however be conscience of your HP and what you are wanting to wire wheel as you don't want to bog it down.
Spend the money for USA or other quality wire wheels... The cheap chinese crimped ones at the big box stores come apart very quickly...
cajunfirehawk
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Wonder why Dr Block has not posted to this thread in a while?
Well on one 1/2 HP block I have a very old USA steel wire wheel and a NOS USA braided/twisted steel wire wheel. At one time I did have an import steel wheel and yes it threw some wires the first few times but calmed down since. I think that wheel got sold when I purged all the old import grinders, maybe not and it will turn up here sometime soon.
This particular grinder is getting two new import brass wire wheels, coarse & fine, and I fully expect it to porcupine everything the first few times so I was going to wear my welding jacket. I have a bionic face shield for me and a HF face shield for anyone else (surprisingly good actually, that's what I used before I got the nicer one) and I won't allow any grinder to be plugged in without face shields and safety glasses underneath.
I did pick up two of each on the wire wheels. Maybe I will try that but my main goal was getting the wheel out further from the body to get good angle on things like concave surfaces and tight spaces in big bulky things. When you do the multiple wheels I'm guessing you 'should' have multiple wheel stabilizers (the big diameter ones) but I only have enough sets and one spare for the wheels I currently have, so I guess I'd have to experiment with that.
1/2 washers are a little loose on 1/2 shaft but not excessively so. I tried the next size down just to see but it won't fit on the shaft. I was planning to dig out the calipers and see if a 12mm might fit on there but I'd have to order anything that big in metric.
This particular grinder is getting two new import brass wire wheels, coarse & fine, and I fully expect it to porcupine everything the first few times so I was going to wear my welding jacket. I have a bionic face shield for me and a HF face shield for anyone else (surprisingly good actually, that's what I used before I got the nicer one) and I won't allow any grinder to be plugged in without face shields and safety glasses underneath.
I did pick up two of each on the wire wheels. Maybe I will try that but my main goal was getting the wheel out further from the body to get good angle on things like concave surfaces and tight spaces in big bulky things. When you do the multiple wheels I'm guessing you 'should' have multiple wheel stabilizers (the big diameter ones) but I only have enough sets and one spare for the wheels I currently have, so I guess I'd have to experiment with that.
1/2 washers are a little loose on 1/2 shaft but not excessively so. I tried the next size down just to see but it won't fit on the shaft. I was planning to dig out the calipers and see if a 12mm might fit on there but I'd have to order anything that big in metric.
drivesitfar
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Cheechi: a few years ago we were talking on this thread on how to best use our block grinders as buffers by extending the wheels. one of the member was a machinist and volunteered to make threaded extensions (one left hand thread and one standard) so we didn't have to use those extensions that were held buy a set screw.
I think DOC might have bought a set of those extensions where he could maybe show you and i'll email him to see if he's ok since it sounds like he hasn't posted in a while.
keep working on it and i'm sure you'll find a good solution.
I think DOC might have bought a set of those extensions where he could maybe show you and i'll email him to see if he's ok since it sounds like he hasn't posted in a while.
keep working on it and i'm sure you'll find a good solution.
Outlawmws
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Guys, something else on the wire wheels:
- DO use a guard, even if its only the main shell, it cuts down on the porcupine attack...
- Also, use and set the "spark arrester", that minimizes the ones in your shirt front I've found...
- The usual about Eye protection and I like using a face guard as well these days...
torqueman2002
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Hi fellow Block Heads.
Just getting caught up on eMails, GJ and GG threads, and YouTube videos, after spending some time in the Twin Cities with family.
I helped out my son with a brake job on their 2010 Focus. I should have suspected it wasn't going to be a routine pads, rotor, and calipers job when only 3 of the 4 lug nuts on the 1st wheel would come off.
Anyway, it's done and I am here to add my 2 pennies, FWIW.
On the Block bearing sizes - I have noticed there are 2 sizes, depending on the arbor/shaft diameter.
Huh, not use to attaching pics. directly from laptop. I have been using PB, but that's a whole mother (sic) subject.
Anyone know how to have an attached pic show up in the body of the post?
TIA
Just getting caught up on eMails, GJ and GG threads, and YouTube videos, after spending some time in the Twin Cities with family.
I helped out my son with a brake job on their 2010 Focus. I should have suspected it wasn't going to be a routine pads, rotor, and calipers job when only 3 of the 4 lug nuts on the 1st wheel would come off.
Anyway, it's done and I am here to add my 2 pennies, FWIW.
On the Block bearing sizes - I have noticed there are 2 sizes, depending on the arbor/shaft diameter.
Huh, not use to attaching pics. directly from laptop. I have been using PB, but that's a whole mother (sic) subject.
Anyone know how to have an attached pic show up in the body of the post?
TIA
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torqueman2002
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Drives, I did have some sets machined up for buffer extensions, as a proof of concept.
While they turned out nice, there was no interest to have them made (at the time) and the project was still-born.
I have since purchased a dual speed Baldor buffer from TP Tools that does just what I need it to.
"3/4 HP 2-Speed Buffer - This is a TRUE 2-speed Buffer - exclusive design for TP Tools. Don't confuse with converted models!
Buffer has 2-speed design for all applications: 1800 RPM for plastics and 3600 RPM for metals and nonferrous materials. Powerful 3/4 HP, single-phase, 115 volt, 7.4 - 7.8 amp motor resists stalling even with applied pressure and provides added horsepower for hours of use. Buffer has on/off switch on motor base and 8 ft cord that plugs into standard 115 volt outlet."
http://www.tptools.com/BALDOR-3and4HP-2-Speed-Bench-Mount-Buffer,6136.html?b=d*12983
While they turned out nice, there was no interest to have them made (at the time) and the project was still-born.
I have since purchased a dual speed Baldor buffer from TP Tools that does just what I need it to.
"3/4 HP 2-Speed Buffer - This is a TRUE 2-speed Buffer - exclusive design for TP Tools. Don't confuse with converted models!
Buffer has 2-speed design for all applications: 1800 RPM for plastics and 3600 RPM for metals and nonferrous materials. Powerful 3/4 HP, single-phase, 115 volt, 7.4 - 7.8 amp motor resists stalling even with applied pressure and provides added horsepower for hours of use. Buffer has on/off switch on motor base and 8 ft cord that plugs into standard 115 volt outlet."
http://www.tptools.com/BALDOR-3and4HP-2-Speed-Bench-Mount-Buffer,6136.html?b=d*12983
drivesitfar
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Doc: i've been clicking on the PAPERCLIP just above where we write our posts that you can download up to 7 pictures per post. if you have more than 7 pictures make more than 1 post.
also once they are thumbnails on your post a member can click on them twice to have them show up full screen.
I used to use PhotoBucket a lot prior to joining GJ and they started changing methods of posting that were not as user friendly so almost all of my pictures are still on GJ.
GJ's owners have bought or pay for more storage so hopefully all the member's pictures will remain on GJ as long as GJ is an active forum.
good luck
cheers and MERRY CHRISTMAS
also once they are thumbnails on your post a member can click on them twice to have them show up full screen.
I used to use PhotoBucket a lot prior to joining GJ and they started changing methods of posting that were not as user friendly so almost all of my pictures are still on GJ.
GJ's owners have bought or pay for more storage so hopefully all the member's pictures will remain on GJ as long as GJ is an active forum.
good luck
cheers and MERRY CHRISTMAS
EOC_Jason
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Cheechi - I got these 2 x Weiler Brass Wheels for $24 on an Amazon Warehouse Deal... Solid brass, not the cheap "brass coated steel"...
On my regular bench grinders I leave the shell in place but have the tool-rest removed and spark arrester raised. I suppose I could move the arrester down carefully but I don't want it to catch on the wheel as the wires do straighten out a little longer when spinning at that high RPM... I do hear wire pieces shoot out the rear discharge ports (and against the wall) on the grinder so I know the shell is doing its job for the most part.
I have a little 1725 RPM motor with an arbor and an exposed wheel. It's only like 1/3 HP or something around there, it has enough power that I can clean things with ease but I can still stop it if I use too much force. The lower speed is a million times nicer if you rub your hand up against the wheel it won't rip off flesh. Also the lower speed is more gentle on materials.
I *do* ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS wear a face shield (not just safety glasses), wire bits and crud go flying everywhere so better safe than sorry. I've heard / felt plenty hit my face shield so I know it's doing its job! I also have a thick denim apron I put on to keep my clothes somewhat clean. Finally I have some leather gloves that are a size too small (so they fit good and tight on my hands) that I will also sometimes use when cleaning a bunch or need to grip something that might be a little sharp.
It's also good practice to reverse your wire wheel every so often. They wires will wear a certain way from the constant rotation, when you flip it you get a nice sharp edge and it will cut like a brand new wheel!
On my regular bench grinders I leave the shell in place but have the tool-rest removed and spark arrester raised. I suppose I could move the arrester down carefully but I don't want it to catch on the wheel as the wires do straighten out a little longer when spinning at that high RPM... I do hear wire pieces shoot out the rear discharge ports (and against the wall) on the grinder so I know the shell is doing its job for the most part.
I have a little 1725 RPM motor with an arbor and an exposed wheel. It's only like 1/3 HP or something around there, it has enough power that I can clean things with ease but I can still stop it if I use too much force. The lower speed is a million times nicer if you rub your hand up against the wheel it won't rip off flesh. Also the lower speed is more gentle on materials.
I *do* ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS wear a face shield (not just safety glasses), wire bits and crud go flying everywhere so better safe than sorry. I've heard / felt plenty hit my face shield so I know it's doing its job! I also have a thick denim apron I put on to keep my clothes somewhat clean. Finally I have some leather gloves that are a size too small (so they fit good and tight on my hands) that I will also sometimes use when cleaning a bunch or need to grip something that might be a little sharp.
It's also good practice to reverse your wire wheel every so often. They wires will wear a certain way from the constant rotation, when you flip it you get a nice sharp edge and it will cut like a brand new wheel!
Outlawmws
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