To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

let's see your craftsman block grinders

W

WAITS

Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
24
Location
Alabama
torqueman2002 said:
Nice color combination! What brand and color codes?

Titanium should bling it out nicely. :beer:
Click to expand...



I don’t remember the code, but from primer to shiner was rust-o. I’ll include the code when I post it ad complete! Man yea, im Sitting on how hot I want my pieces to get, I’m thinking purple!

TM I’ve also got some info to send you soon, about the winding leads!

Here’s a few Ti pieces to pass the time, until the blocks done.

Bisquit cutter
15BA8D25-DB4F-4CCA-AB6F-E7032C5CFE97.jpg
The blue spots in wrapped wire
IMG_4060.jpg
Plaque for daughters softball coach
Adjustments.jpg
Pipeliner hood
IMG_2060.jpg
Hood, bracelet, and ring set
IMG_2214.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using The Garage Journal mobile app
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
T

torqueman2002

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 3, 2009
Messages
6,139
Location
SE Michigan
WAITS said:
I don’t remember the code, but from primer to shiner was rust-o. I’ll include the code when I post it ad complete! Man yea, im Sitting on how hot I want my pieces to get, I’m thinking purple!

TM I’ve also got some info to send you soon, about the winding leads!

Here’s a few Ti pieces to pass the time, until the blocks done.

Bisquit cutter
15BA8D25-DB4F-4CCA-AB6F-E7032C5CFE97.jpg
The blue spots in wrapped wire
IMG_4060.jpg
Plaque for daughters softball coach
Adjustments.jpg
Pipeliner hood
IMG_2060.jpg
Hood, bracelet, and ring set
IMG_2214.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using The Garage Journal mobile app
Click to expand...
Nice work!
:bowdown:
 
D

davethorik

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 14, 2013
Messages
4,992
Location
Norka, Ohio
Got this for free today. I was told it would hum on startup but wouldn't spin, so the wheels were cannibalized and grinder was sitting out for the trash. Nuts/washers still there.

Model 397.1949

I thought it might be a pre-block, due to the rounded shape, but I'm not sure.
 

Attachments

  • 20200326_155336.jpg
    20200326_155336.jpg
    151.3 KB · Views: 56
  • 20200326_155322.jpg
    20200326_155322.jpg
    152.1 KB · Views: 71
  • 20200326_155314.jpg
    20200326_155314.jpg
    147.7 KB · Views: 78
W

WAITS

Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
24
Location
Alabama
davethorik said:
Got this for free today. I was told it would hum on startup but wouldn't spin, so the wheels were cannibalized and grinder was sitting out for the trash. Nuts/washers still there.



Model 397.1949



I thought it might be a pre-block, due to the rounded shape, but I'm not sure.
Click to expand...



Mannn please open it up and find out what color wire goes to which lead on the motor! I’ve got the same model


Sent from my iPhone using The Garage Journal mobile app
 
E

exmaxima1

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 25, 2011
Messages
6,339
Location
Midwest
davethorik said:
Got this for free today. I was told it would hum on startup but wouldn't spin, so the wheels were cannibalized and grinder was sitting out for the trash. Nuts/washers still there.

Model 397.1949

I thought it might be a pre-block, due to the rounded shape, but I'm not sure.
Click to expand...

Pre-block would be cast iron (not aluminum alloy) and weighs about 55 lbs or so.
 
Last edited:
D

davethorik

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 14, 2013
Messages
4,992
Location
Norka, Ohio
Its hefty but i dont think 55 lbs hefty. I think most of the weight is from the wheel guards. I should get a chance to tear into it this weekend.
 
L

lafester

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 1, 2017
Messages
2,191
Location
Northern CO
davethorik said:
Got this for free today. I was told it would hum on startup but wouldn't spin, so the wheels were cannibalized and grinder was sitting out for the trash. Nuts/washers still there.

Model 397.1949

I thought it might be a pre-block, due to the rounded shape, but I'm not sure.
Click to expand...

Great score for free! Even if it is toast you have at least $100 in parts there.
I got one very similar recently, I'll take a few pics if it helps anyone.
 
T

torqueman2002

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 3, 2009
Messages
6,139
Location
SE Michigan
WAITS said:
Anyone now the wiring for a 3971598?
User manual doesn’t have one
IMG_4989.jpg
Click to expand...
Is that the same 1/3-HP Block m-397.19580 you posted in the link below?
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8402577&postcount=12178

Because I don't recognize the model you posted: '3971598'.

Here's a wiring diagram for 397.19580, as well as others.
attachment.php


:thumbup:
 

Attachments

  • Fi 115V Block Wiring rev02 P1110134.jpg
    Fi 115V Block Wiring rev02 P1110134.jpg
    75.1 KB · Views: 370
Last edited:
E

exmaxima1

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 25, 2011
Messages
6,339
Location
Midwest
davethorik said:
Its hefty but i dont think 55 lbs hefty. I think most of the weight is from the wheel guards. I should get a chance to tear into it this weekend.
Click to expand...

Your grinder is NOT a Pre-Block. In addition to being alloy (and not cast iron), your grinder has a slot for a removable quench tray. Pre-Blocks have their power switch at that location. The switch on a Pre-Block would not fit higher up the center panel because the motor stator (laminations) is gigantic and takes up all the space.
 
Last edited:
W

WAITS

Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
24
Location
Alabama
D

davethorik

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 14, 2013
Messages
4,992
Location
Norka, Ohio
exmaxima1 said:
Your grinder is NOT a Pre-Block. In addition to being alloy (and not cast iron), your grinder has a slot for a removable quench tray. Pre-Blocks have their power switch at that location. The switch on a Pre-Block would not fit higher up the center panel because the motor stator (laminations) is gigantic and takes up all the space.
Click to expand...

Thanx for clearing that up :thumbup:

I had a few square-top block grinders, but ended up selling them a few yrs ago. One of them had identical wheel guards as this one, or nearly identical as memory serves, with the rest just having the lighter sheet metsl guards. The one with cast wheel guards was noticeably more heavy.

Not long after, since i apparently have a fetish for department store branded bench grinders, I bought 2 almost identical J.C. Penney marked 1/3 hp grinders. They are Baldor relabels, and very good grinders. This block will be in good company.

I have a quench tray for this Craftsman somewhere, but I just moved and have no idea where it's at right now.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
B

bagged89s10

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 13, 2005
Messages
4,607
Location
CT
garage clean out on block grinder parts. I have inner guards and housing parts for 6” block. I also have housing parts and one side guard set for a 7” block. I don’t know what’s wrong with the windings in the second to last pic. make me an offer if you need anything. I just want these gone.


a669052a72112bad07d2bb1c7163910b.jpg
b3fe721ff89d256483748ff197203f36.jpg
3f87ee2407a5643a8010b2b740e58aa8.jpg
f5b838960ea1df8cec6c14c7501ed967.jpg
2c045ee14cffe30f1e6a8814566bff0f.jpg
 

Attachments

  • b3fe721ff89d256483748ff197203f36.jpg
    b3fe721ff89d256483748ff197203f36.jpg
    128.3 KB · Views: 3
  • a669052a72112bad07d2bb1c7163910b.jpg
    a669052a72112bad07d2bb1c7163910b.jpg
    113.6 KB · Views: 1
  • f5b838960ea1df8cec6c14c7501ed967.jpg
    f5b838960ea1df8cec6c14c7501ed967.jpg
    86.3 KB · Views: 1
  • 3f87ee2407a5643a8010b2b740e58aa8.jpg
    3f87ee2407a5643a8010b2b740e58aa8.jpg
    108.9 KB · Views: 1
  • 2c045ee14cffe30f1e6a8814566bff0f.jpg
    2c045ee14cffe30f1e6a8814566bff0f.jpg
    69.7 KB · Views: 1
T

torqueman2002

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 3, 2009
Messages
6,139
Location
SE Michigan
bagged - those are nice looking Block parts. I need to do some spring, winter, summer, fall cleaning, too! :beer:


BTW - Here's a good video about electronics cleaners, ie: Deoxit D5

How to use Electronics Cleaners
 
Last edited:
B

bagged89s10

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 13, 2005
Messages
4,607
Location
CT
torqueman2002 said:
bagged - those are nice looking Block parts. I need to do some spring, winter, summer, fall cleaning, too! :beer:


BTW - Here's a good video about electronics cleaners, ie: Deoxit D5

How to use Electronics Cleaners
Click to expand...


i’m getting ready to build a new garage so I can turn the current garage into a bedroom with 2 more bedrooms above it. the current pandemic is delaying the meeting with my architect though.

But that’s why I’m trying to clean out and organize as much as possible as a lot of the things will have to be put in a storage container during the construction.
 
C

Chadwilliam1

Well-known member
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
2,788
Location
Cincinnati
What are my options on the light, is there a replacement cover or replacement light?
Also best way to clean it?

Thanks 12f58f8ae82d06270605fa2189bbbed0.jpg

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
 

Attachments

  • 12f58f8ae82d06270605fa2189bbbed0.jpg
    12f58f8ae82d06270605fa2189bbbed0.jpg
    643 KB · Views: 0
T

torqueman2002

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 3, 2009
Messages
6,139
Location
SE Michigan
Chadwilliam1 said:
What are my options on the light, is there a replacement cover or replacement light?
Also best way to clean it?

Thanks

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
You may want to replace it, for all the time it will take to repair and clean it.

Bench Grinder Lamp Shade 534497198
$6.25 + shipping

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/product/1c81334m3m-0071-358/id-534497198

I just ordered 2, to have on hand. They were discontinued from another site that carries Block parts.
https://www.ereplacementparts.com/black-cover-p-973653.html?osCsid=28fu83dlsa2d5hfacm7sdc6ri0
 
Last edited:
C

Chadwilliam1

Well-known member
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
2,788
Location
Cincinnati
What is the best way to remove the bearing? bcbfb9b5a7cde0144d6b429a54996304.jpg

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
 

Attachments

  • bcbfb9b5a7cde0144d6b429a54996304.jpg
    bcbfb9b5a7cde0144d6b429a54996304.jpg
    650.2 KB · Views: 1
E

exmaxima1

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 25, 2011
Messages
6,339
Location
Midwest
lafester said:
Should just tap out. Nothing holding it in there.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

+1.

Surprising that the bearing is not stuck to the arbor shaft. I've done maybe a dozen of them, and it's a press fit to the shaft while only a "slip" fit to the housing. The spring washers keep them from spinning in the housing.
 
S

Shiftless

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 9, 2014
Messages
14,527
Location
East Bay SFO
So is there a purpose to the little hole in the top of the metal reflector?

I have an extra assembly just like that one that Chad posted with the metal flex, socket and head, with good wires (no plastic hood) but I’m staying away from the post office. :(
 
Last edited:
L

lafester

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 1, 2017
Messages
2,191
Location
Northern CO
Makes me think there is a problem with the arbor shaft.
Hopefully it just got hung up in the housing with old grease.

exmaxima1 said:
+1.

Surprising that the bearing is not stuck to the arbor shaft. I've done maybe a dozen of them, and it's a press fit to the shaft while only a "slip" fit to the housing. The spring washers keep them from spinning in the housing.
Click to expand...
 
B

bagged89s10

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 13, 2005
Messages
4,607
Location
CT
You must log in or register to reply here.
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom