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Long Handled 1/2" Drive Ratchet

BrandoJames

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On a long ratchet, high tooth count and flex head are more important than on a shorter one.

I think the opposite is true--you'd typically use a smaller/shorter ratchet in tight clearances, where the swing arc (tooth count) is quite relevant. Typically you're only using a long ratchet when you have plenty of clearance. I own the 1/2" Williams S-52EHLA (36 tooth) and there's never been a time while using it when I thought: "My gosh, I need a fine tooth ratchet!"

Here's when I've needed a fine tooth ratchet: when changing spark plugs on the back side of my V6 Camry, where clearance was so tight that my hands and fingers were getting cut up. That's when my Snap-on FF80A was worth its weight in gold, compared to my coarse tooth Craftsman.
 
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I find tooth count a main criteria, many times I use the long ratchet for it's reach ability and swing space maybe limited thus a decent tooth count makes them more useful .
flex head can be a hindrance, locking is useful .
 

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I have the 24 inch Tekton which seems to work fine so far but I am not in the trades and it is not heavily used.
 

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Can't remember exactly but a 1/2 SK LP90, that I think was 15-18" long, was on steals and deals not long ago, ***** that you just missed out.

I've got a snap-on SX80B, 17-18" long locking flex. I love that ratchet, but out of your price range. I also wrench for a living...

I have always felt that if 18" is too short, use a breaker bar. 24" ratchet is a lot to swing and makes for an expensive breaker bar.

If this is for diy type use. A decent Taiwan ratchet should be more than good enough and won't break the bank

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I have always felt that if 18" is too short, use a breaker bar. 24" ratchet is a lot to swing and makes for an expensive breaker bar.

Breaker bar is a LOT more picky about fitment. If you're in a situation where it fits, great. If not, a long quality 1/2" (or even 3/4") ratchet is pretty nice to have.

(Edit: I just mean to say I like to have all options available if I can, and it's an excuse to buy more ratchets)
 
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Breaker bar is a LOT more picky about fitment. If you're in a situation where it fits, great. If not, a long quality 1/2" (or even 3/4") ratchet is pretty nice to have.
I've run into situations where having a fine tooth 1/2 18"ish ratchet was needed, wheel alignments. But I've broken cam bolts/nuts with 18" of leverage. Never run into something where I need more than 18" and both a breaker bar or good 1/2 impact won't work. I'm also an auto tech, I don't work on heavy equipment or semis

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I think the opposite is true--you'd typically use a smaller/shorter ratchet in tight clearances, where the swing arc (tooth count) is quite relevant. Typically you're only using a long ratchet when you have plenty of clearance. I own the 1/2" Williams S-52EHLA (36 tooth) and there's never been a time while using it when I thought: "My gosh, I need a fine tooth ratchet!"

Here's when I've needed a fine tooth ratchet: when changing spark plugs on the back side of my V6 Camry, where clearance was so tight that my hands and fingers were getting cut up. That's when my Snap-on FF80A was worth its weight in gold, compared to my coarse tooth Craftsman.

You might want to think about it a little more. Leverage is the main reason why long ratchets are used. I replaced the entire front suspension of my Honda recently. Yeah, there are plenty of spaces, until you put a long ratchet in there. Control arms, body panels, etc. could greatly limit the swing room. Fine tooth and flex head are very helpful for avoiding obstructions.

For example, you couldn't find more access room than lug nuts. Yet, on one of my cars, if using a long fixed head ratchet, the ratchet handle will be rubbing against body panel. A few degrees of flex head is definitely needed. Factory lug nut handle is good because it's short and at an angle. Break bars are good because they have flex heads.

Replacing spark plugs of the rear bank Honda V6 engine had been a struggle for me as well. Every time, I got abrasions on my hands and arm. However, my latest attempt was much easier, thanks to Gearwrench magnetic spark plug socket, which has not only a magnet to hold the socket, but also a swivel shaft. I then used an extention and a universal adapter to bring the ratchet out of all obstructions. That just shows: sometimes a little bit wiggle can make life so much easier.
 
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I bought a 24" flex SK LP90 a couple of months ago for around $140. SK had either a 26 or 30% off plus free shipping. I used that ratchet more than I thought I would. I don't abuse it but it's nice having the extra leverage and fine tooth mechanism.

I used it the other day to replace a front wheel bearing on a Ford. I didn't have clearance for my impact and the 24" ratchet quickly broke lose the bolts. Once loose i switched to a 3/8 short ratchet.
 

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I think the opposite is true--you'd typically use a smaller/shorter ratchet in tight clearances, where the swing arc (tooth count) is quite relevant. Typically you're only using a long ratchet when you have plenty of clearance. I own the 1/2" Williams S-52EHLA (36 tooth) and there's never been a time while using it when I thought: "My gosh, I need a fine tooth ratchet!"

That's called self-selection bias. When you need a fine tooth ratchet, that's what you grab.

There isn't a good reason to buy coarse-tooth ratchets anymore, at least not new. Modern fine-tooth designs are just as strong and offer more utility.
 
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why settle? If you really want the long Proto, be patient, save your money and get it. :beer:

Ratchets are a pretty personal choice. I prefer fine toothed ratchets (anything over 60 teeth). I find myself using a long 1/2 drive ratchet when i need umph, or reach. In a deep engine compartment, fine toothed action makes things easier because space laterally is minimum at best.

I think one of the best sleeper 1/2 drive ratchets on ebay are the Proto Italian made round head palm control ratchets in long handled fixed or flex head trims. if you shop around, you can get both under $40 each.

The 2 foot long Tekton 90 tooth is sweet but, a little heavy. EZ Red aren't as durable as they used to be.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention the extendable 1//2 drive ratchet. Some are real good, some are just awful. it's something that can be very useful. :beer:
 

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That's called self-selection bias. When you need a fine tooth ratchet, that's what you grab.

There isn't a good reason to buy coarse-tooth ratchets anymore, at least not new. Modern fine-tooth designs are just as strong and offer more utility.

This is the reality. The 36 tooth designs were fine in the day but it no longer makes any sense to buy them for any other reason than nostalgia. It’s like buying a typewriter.
 

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It's all about what you like. I have eight 1/2" ratchets in my box. From the old 50 tooth SK 42470 up to the 26" locking flex Mac Axis. The one I grab the most is the SK 50 tooth. I don't know why, I just like it.
 

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Can't remember exactly but a 1/2 SK LP90, that I think was 15-18" long, was on steals and deals not long ago, ***** that you just missed out.

I finally weakened and purchased the 1/2 SK LP90 ratchet. I am quite pleased. Nice construction and the ratchet has reasonably low back drag.
 
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why settle? If you really want the long Proto, be patient, save your money and get it. :beer::beer:


I think that's sound advice and is where I am with it. As I said, I have three long flex now. It's not going to be a high use item in my home shop and what I have will do most anything I need it to (I have a large set of Wright 3/4" drive on standby).

That fine of a ratchet for a guy like me is pure luxury. Not necessity. I need a floor jack worse so I'll just continue to work towards that for now. After all the reading, I doubt I'd ever be happy with the lower tooth ones mentioned. My first large road bike was a 750 Honda. Although I liked it and it was a damn good motorcycle, I always regretted not waiting longer and buying a Harley. I can see the same scenario playing out if I buy a lesser ratchet.

Thanks, Fedwrench. Encouraging advice.
 

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If you fussy enough be on this forum starting discussions on a ratchet you going be a user who not that happy with second choice to save some bucks .
Ratchets are one of those tools best buying what really best/desire for your preferences .
wrenches, ratchet wrenches and socket ratchets are basic hand tools that pays spend a little more on/hold out for your personal favourites .
 

Rabid Badger

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It's all about what you like. I have eight 1/2" ratchets in my box. From the old 50 tooth SK 42470 up to the 26" locking flex Mac Axis. The one I grab the most is the SK 50 tooth. I don't know why, I just like it.

The 42470 is my personal favorite, too. I have the 100 tooth version sitting in the drawer when the occasion calls for it, though.
 

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FYI FWIW
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From my own experience Ratchets are a lot of what you think feels good for a particular task. Relative to what you can afford. The grip, the swing, the trust, direction lever, etc.. Its like anything ya need a bunch:lol: Its a very changed world now with tool companies being controlled by just a few big entities. :(

This guy has the Wright idea. (I'm sorry)

They make a flex head version, too (4430) but it goes for around $100.
 

sparky 1971

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The 42470 is my personal favorite, too. I have the 100 tooth version sitting in the drawer when the occasion calls for it, though.

I also upgraded a 42470 to 100 tooth. I like the old 50 tooth better though. They are sitting side by side along with a bunch of modern high tech ratchets that are rarely used.
 
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