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my turn to ask a question, if I may. I have a Viair 12V air compressor that I keep in the back of my Jeep. The other morning I decided to use it to air up all the tires as it'd gone from 50s-70s to below freezing. Well the inflator was sticky so I thought it might be frozen so I brought it inside. I used my little mini compressor that is also a Viair that I keep in the BMW to pump my car tires up as it doesn't have an inflator just a screw on adapter..

Well tonight I went to use the big guy because I figured I ought to air up the Jeep tires and the inflator valve was still sticky, I worked a little silicone spray in it and it started behaving again. Went to use it and the chuck is NFG, it does not lock on anymore, I have to hold it on with my hand. So at this point I think I need (OK, want?) a new inflator as the only parts of it that haven't fought me this week are the gauge (which is OK I guess) and the hose. On one hand that was an expensive rig but on the other hand, I did buy it ~10 years ago and I think it was used, sooo... can't ***** too much. The compressor is still compressing, which is the important part of this equation.

Now when I think tire pressure gauges and inflators and stuff I think Longacre, I have had one of their tire gauges for years and it is still kicking, it is in my go bag right now (with breaker bar, flip sockets, plug kit, etc.) This guy looks like basically the gauge I regularly use on an inflator body

https://www.longacreracing.com/shop...Filled-2½”-GID-Quick-Fill-Tire-Gauge-0-60-psi

and I don't mind paying the price if it is good. BUT - it looks like it comes with two chucks but neither one is locking. It really would be a convenience since I'm using a 12V compressor and not shop air to have a locking chuck so I don't have to stand hunched over while filling the tire. Is this a good chuck?

https://www.amazon.com/Milton-EZ-Lo.../dp/B0CZPHJJ63/734403409?tag=atomicindus08-20

What other gear would you recommend for someone in my position?
 
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Change the chuck on the inflator you have? I swapped chucks on my Milwaukee M12 inflator. My Milwaukee M18 inflator came with a decent chuck. Some Viair are good, but if it is a little one really intended as emergency use only, it might not be durable enough for regular use.
 
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Change the chuck on the inflator you have? I swapped chucks on my Milwaukee M12 inflator. My Milwaukee M18 inflator came with a decent chuck. Some Viair are good, but if it is a little one really intended as emergency use only, it might not be durable enough for regular use.

The whole inflator feels a little iffy and like I said I had to spray it with silicone to get it to work again. The chuck worked well for years but now blows off when you hit about 30 PSI unless you hold it in place. Looks like it relies on a rubber insert to grip the threads and it's just degraded due to age, living in the back of a Jeep, etc.

The unit is a Viair 450P so the whole unit is not **** (100% duty cycle, I had fantasies when I bought it that I might actually be able to go off roading) but the inflator as a whole and the chuck in particular need upgrading and I'm not opposed to spending money to not have to touch it again. I've had it probably 10 years so not a huge deal. I definitely use it at least every year when it gets cold as I don't have the ability to have a big air compressor anymore, nowhere to store it or use it.

So far literally every response I've got has recommended JACO so I'm glad I posted as I was completely unaware of them before last night. In fact, are their inflators good? they are significantly cheaper as an assembly than Longacre and come with the locking chuck included.

I'm also not opposed to a screw on chuck but all I can seem to find are obviously Chinese Temu/Alibaba type stuff but is that really bad in this application?

Looks like LockNLube makes a nice looking locking chuck as well but nobody's actually recommended it yet.
 

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I've had a couple JACO connectors for a year now and really like them


I also use a Jaco inflator. I was having an issue where it was bleeding air and not allowing you to get a good pressure reading. I emailed them and they asked the model number and issue. They then asked for a photo of the product to verify where the air was leaking and the product ID. In the time it took me to walk out to the garage to get a pic and back to the computer they had already sent me a tracking number for the updated innards that fixed the issue at no cost.

Phenomenal customer service in a time when everything else seems to be a race to the bottom.

The original chuck also locks on the valve with no issue.
 

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I have three tireflators.

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I’ve had a Milton tireflator since the 90s. The gauge finally started sticking after 20+ years and I bought a new one in 2015 and it works great and it has an extend double head chuck like you use on a tractor trailer tires. This thing is a tank that lasts for decades. I use it for my motorhome.

About 6 years ago I bought a Jaco ProFlo digital inflator that was on sale. It had a Chinese chuck like the Milton one you showed. I really like it and it is my go to inflator for pretty much everything.

A few weeks ago the Jaco started leaking air and I found that the o rings dried out. I wound up replacing the o rings, and added a new Jaco swiveling locking chuck that is meant for hard to get at tire valves.

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While looking at the chuck I also found that the new Jaco digital pro Flo 2 was on sale for around $35 so I picked one up because I liked the single lever inflate and deflate feature and the rubber swivel head hose and that it has the new quick release chuck. The hose on the origional Jaco does not swivel which can be irritating on occarions where the gauge has to face the floor to get access to the locking mechanism on the chuck. In addition the metal braid starts to splinter after 5 years or so.

The quality control on the newer Jaco 2 isn’t the same as the original one I bought. I knew that from a small percentage of the reviews but pulled the trigger anyway because I love its features and I know that Jaco has a stellar reputation for customer service. I took the old one apart to change the o rings and was very happy with the quality of the internal mechanism. When I got the version 2 last week the brass cap screw at the bottom of the inflate/deflate valve was buggerd like a screw on a gun that the wrong person worked on. This was a complaint on some of the Amazon reviews. Another complaint on Amazon reviews was that the o ring under that cap screw was torn apart by the threads during assembly. I took mine apart new out to the box and sure enough the o ring was shredded a bit. It looks like the person who assembled it puts the o ring in the hole instead of sliding it over the threads to the head of the cap screw. then they run the cap in with an impact which buggers the head and shreds the o ring in one fell swoop. In addition the internals aren’t as well done as the older one. When I disassembled the fill mechanism on the new one I found that a piece of the casting was blocking a large portion of the air inlet right before the valve mechanism. It was only a matter of time until that went into the valve. I took a long thin screwdriver and got it out. In addition the bore that the shuttle valve rides in isn’t as smooth as I’d want it to be. I really like the design of the newer one and hope it lasts, but IMHO they do need to improve the manufacture process, or find a better factory in china to make the thing. Better yet move the manufacture here and put a made in USA sticker on it.
 
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I also use a Jaco inflator.

OK so can you answer me one question. I'm now looking at buying this guy


and the only thing that's making me hesitate is this. The very similar, but 2x as expensive, Longacre inflator that I was considering buying is four distinct parts, all using standard components. The inflator, hose, chuck, and gauge all use standard pipe thread ports so if one failed and I were in a hurry I could go to Colliflower or wherever (or even Harbor Freight in a pinch, or steal parts from the old Viair inflator) and get a replacement, it wouldn't have to be Longacre. I can't tell from the pics, is the JACO one the same way?

If it is, I'm in, $35 for that is not bad and all and if their CS is as good as you say that's icing.

Edit, much later: I was wrong. The hose to chuck connection on my Longacre pressure gauge is not 1/4" NPT but some straight thread with an O-ring. I assume it's the same on the inflator. Have a message into them to see what the port is on the inflator body to see if this is fixable with a new hose or not.
 
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For off roading, how about something like the Ryobi. 18V 1 gallon compressor? It’s much bigger than my Milwaukee M18 inflator, but much smaller than my Milwaukee M18 2 gallon compressor?
 
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For off roading, how about something like the Ryobi. 18V 1 gallon compressor? It’s much bigger than my Milwaukee M18 inflator, but much smaller than my Milwaukee M18 2 gallon compressor?

I already have the Viair 450P just need new hardware for the business end of the hose.

I looked it up and I bought it in 2016, so it's been a good purchase.
 

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I've been using a JACO Lightning S2X for a year with my M18 inflator. Works great with everything from small wagon to zero turn tires to pickup tires. Push on to connect to the valve. Press button to disconnect with very little air loss.
 
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Also I am going down a rabbit hole here... does anyone know what liquid Longacre uses in their liquid filled gauges? If my setup is going to live outside I wouldn't want glycerin but silicone would be fine. I did ask them but I thought I'd see if anyone knew while I'm waiting for them to get back to me.

Same question re: Intercomp but they don't make inflators, although there'd be nothing stopping me from using one of their gauges on another inflator.

Or I could use something like this https://cleanflow.net/products/accu...d-filled-pressure-gauges-1-4-mpt-bottom-mount although a quick google for "2.5" pressure gauge silicone filled glow in the dark" (or GITD) didn't yield any results so I'd be giving that up.

yeah it may be nerdy but I'm going for the "ultimate" set up here :)
 
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I've had a couple JACO connectors for a year now and really like them

Me, too. Easy to lock and compact enough for motorcycle wheels. Sometime it’s difficult to get some chucks around the spokes onto the valve stem.
 
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I have about 3 inflators I use. I've got a Milton with the little window gauge that is hard to read.

The best I've had is Branick. It uses a "rolling" type analog gauge that is easy to read. Expensive and works well:

Branick tire inflator

I did replace the chuck on it with a quality locking type.
 
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Good evening everyone

Today my JACO chucks came and I'm sad because I now realize that I cannot simply use one on my Viair inflator to try it out; it appears that the hose is a 1/8" (?) MPT at the inflator not 1/4" and the chuck, which is failing, is crimped onto the hose and does not unscrew. Before you jump on me and say "why didn't you look, O *** of limited intelligence" in my defense I am never home when it's light out this time of year, so I was examining the thing by dim streetlight while trying to inflate my tires. Anyway, apparently I really do need to order an inflator, it's not just a want anymore. I should have another Viair inflator laying around (thrift store scores FTW!) but I'm assuming that if the chuck on that works, it's on borrowed time since the one in the Jeep already is failing.

Contenders so far:

Longacre (maybe? I'll explain) Longacre 60 PSI digital is spec'd at +/-0.2 PSI or 0.3% is that legit? My inner engineer likes that if that's valid. Analog 60 PSI is +/-1 PSI or 2%. However, I read somewhere while researching that someone said they couldn't put the JACO chuck on a Longacre inflator so if that's true, that's a negative, and means I was mistaken above when I said that all the ports were 1/4" NPT. Now I'm going to have to examine my tire pressure gauge and see if that is the same.

JACO - seems legit. I know the JACO chuck fits because it comes with one. Also cheaper than Longacre, either analog or digital is under $40. JACO 100 PSI analog is rated +/-2%, the 200 PSI digital is rated +/-1% so either one should be +/- 1 PSI.

QuickCar - don't know anything about these. Seem comparable to Longacre. Couldn't find gauge spec.

Branick - recommended above. Doesn't use replaceable gauge but apparently can take an aftermarket chuck. Analog is +/- 2 PSI and reads to 174 PSI. Digital is +/- 2 PSI and reads to 250 PSI.

So what would you fine folks recommend? I'm tempted to order the JACO analog, what would push me over the edge is if someone could tell me that all the ports are 1/4" FPT (I guess they all have to be except for maybe the hose connection at the inflator, yes? And why would the hose not use the same connection at both ends?) Then if I decide that it's not accurate enough for my engineery self I could just replace the gauge head with a Longacre digital head or something like that.

Thanks for any advice.
 
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Just took a look at my old Longacre pressure gauge and sure enough, the thread at the chuck end is some kind of straight thread with an O-ring. On the pressure gauge, the hose is directly crimped to the deflator body, the only other replaceable piece is the gauge itself. So, I can't imagine Longacre makes two different chucks... I did send them a message asking what the thread was on the inflator body to see if I could replace the hose with a 1/4" MPT whip or if that idea is a non starter.

Who thought trying to pick an inflator would be such a rabbit hole!
 

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I have a "Lock-n-Flate" chuck on my Milwaukee M18 inflator, nice quality and reliable 👍

 
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And oddly, assuming I'm correct that the Viair inflator body hose port is 1/8" FPT, this Viair hose could get me by if I try to go cheep cheep.

I will have to go buy some pipe plugs to check thread.

 
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got a reply from JACO re: the hoses they use

Thank you for your question regarding the sizes on our FlowPro tire inflators. Below are the specific details:

FlowPro 1.0 Analog/Digital
End of air hose to air chuck: 1/4-inch NPT
Air hose to inflator body: M10 x 1
FlowPro 2.0 Digital
End of air hose to air chuck: 1/4-inch NPT
Air hose to inflator body: 3/8-inch 24UNF

in case this helps anyone down the road

Edit: I was originally disappointed by this response, but it appears that a whip with a 3/8-24 thread on one end and 1/4" MPT on the other is an off the shelf part


so the FlowPro 2.0 is in the running for a replacement. I think I'd find the ergonomics of the FlowPro 1.0 more familiar, but I'd rather have something that I can replace parts on should the mfgr. suddenly go Tango Uniform.
 
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To connect the JACO Lightning S2 chuck to my M18/M12 I used a Lightning adapter. This may help you depending upon which inflator you choose.
 

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Another reponse

Thank you for contacting Viair.
This is to confirm that the output of the tire inflation gun hose port size is 1/8" NPT.
Let us know if you have any other questions.

so I'm going to order that 1/8" to 1/4" whip (from Viair, oddly enough, #92803) today so I have a functional unit.
 
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someone in another thread (where I was asking specifically about analog gauges) mentioned Joe's Racing as well, this appears very similar to the other ones I've used and liked in the past


From the pics it looks like everything is 1/4" pipe thread except I am guessing that the hose to body is 1/8" pipe like my Viair, I have a message into them now as well.

Edit: confirmed everything is 1/4" NPT on Joe's except maybe the hose to body which is some flavor of NPT

support guy was real helpful so now I think that's what I'm going with because ergonomically it looks identical to the Longacre one. I just have to decide digital or analog? The digital uses AAA cells and I have a crapton of NiMHs so that's not a HUGE drawback I just have to throw an extra pair in the box just in case. which reminds me I probably need some more AA and AAA cases to transport them... I think these are my choices


Digital version is supposedly 1% accurate so 0.6 PSI whereas the analog one is probably less accurate but doesn't need batteries. On reflection 60 PSI range seems best if I ever need something for a truck I'll just have to get a new gauge head.
 
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Sounds like you have a plan! I don’t think the dial ones wear out either. Anything electrical will definitely be replaced before a gauge version.
 
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So the Joe's 60 PSI mechanical gauge version showed up. Now I have a GITD gauge and I put the JACO chuck on it and it's a nice upgrade. When the hose I ordered shows up I'll put the other JACO chuck on the original inflator and keep it as a backup. I can now confirm that the Joe's inflator has a 1/8" NPT thread on the body end and 1/4" NPT on the chuck end so everything is nice and standard, I could have a hose made at a hydraulic shop in a pinch and use a different gauge if I somehow broke that.
 
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Well **** kid. Went to air up the BMW's tires - last time I did it was what prompted this - and the JACO chuck is not compatible with the BMW TPMS valve stems. Works great on the rubber stems on my other two vehicles though...

Unfortunately it was the locking part of the chuck dying that in part made me want to get a new inflator. (the other was that the valve was sticking)

Anyone know if the lock-n-lube chucks will work on a BMW? Or anything else decent?

On the upside my cheap *** hacked together Harbor Freight "solar battery maintainer" works great, so there's that.
 

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Well **** kid. Went to air up the BMW's tires - last time I did it was what prompted this - and the JACO chuck is not compatible with the BMW TPMS valve stems. Works great on the rubber stems on my other two vehicles though...

Unfortunately it was the locking part of the chuck dying that in part made me want to get a new inflator. (the other was that the valve was sticking)

Anyone know if the lock-n-lube chucks will work on a BMW? Or anything else decent?

On the upside my cheap *** hacked together Harbor Freight "solar battery maintainer" works great, so there's that.
If you look it up this appears to be a common problem. The reply on the BMW forums is to temporarily install a tire valve extender that is compatible with your air chuck.If you have a screw on chuck for the Jaco inflator that would probably work better.

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Can you use the non locking version that you have to hold in place while inflating? If so use that.
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Well **** kid. Went to air up the BMW's tires - last time I did it was what prompted this - and the JACO chuck is not compatible with the BMW TPMS valve stems. Works great on the rubber stems on my other two vehicles though...
I have the same issue with my locking chucks on every Acura I fill. What I do is put on an Alligator V2B inflate through valve cap and push the locking chuck on that. Then put the original valve cap back on when I'm done, because the Alligator sticks out too much on the rigid stem.
 
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yeah my little mini pump that lives in the BMW's trunk is also a Viair and it has a screw on chuck and I've never had a problem with that one.

The locking chuck on the big Viair inflator used to work fine too until it didn't, but it is crimped on the hose.

Right now the only chucks I have are those two and the Jaco, so I need to get something for the big inflator that will work on all three vehicles. The "inflate through valve cap" looks like a good idea if it works, I could just toss one in every compressor bag.
 

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...The "inflate through valve cap" looks like a good idea if it works, I could just toss one in every compressor bag.
Well, I use them because they fit, but also because I bought a box a while back and use them on my cars with rubber stems (when they don't stick out too much). Stem extensions would work just as well if you have those.
 
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Well, I use them because they fit, but also because I bought a box a while back and use them on my cars with rubber stems (when they don't stick out too much). Stem extensions would work just as well if you have those.

I don't have anything like that in my bag of goodies, I only have what I listed above. I have the ability to inflate all my tires, but it would be nice to be able to use the proper inflator on the BMW.
 

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I'm happy with my Jaco. Love the chuck.
I'd be willing to try the lock-n-flate based on my excellent experience with their grease couplers.
 
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It doesn't surprise me, but I never would have guessed that BMW valve stems are non-standard

I've had the car for ~10 years and this is the first time I've had an issue inflating the tires, but of course it has to be with the setup that I obsessively researched :)

I did keep the original valve stem caps and toss them in the door pockets because they're very unusual looking, not the usual ones that look like the plastic caps we've been using for decades just colored grey.

I also am kind of incredulous, how do you screw up something as ancient as a Schrader valve?
 

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Also I am going down a rabbit hole here... does anyone know what liquid Longacre uses in their liquid filled gauges? If my setup is going to live outside I wouldn't want glycerin but silicone would be fine. I did ask them but I thought I'd see if anyone knew while I'm waiting for them to get back to me.

Same question re: Intercomp but they don't make inflators, although there'd be nothing stopping me from using one of their gauges on another inflator.

Or I could use something like this https://cleanflow.net/products/accu...d-filled-pressure-gauges-1-4-mpt-bottom-mount although a quick google for "2.5" pressure gauge silicone filled glow in the dark" (or GITD) didn't yield any results so I'd be giving that up.

yeah it may be nerdy but I'm going for the "ultimate" set up here :)
All liquid-filled gauges I've seen or used had glycerine for the fill.

IMHO, a liquid-filled gauge is useless for 99% of what we use gauges for. If it's mounted directly to a piston compressor or other high-vibration situation, sure, but not for a tire pressure gauge or much anything else.

Liquid-filled gauges WILL leak with large swings in temperature or pressure--like you'd encounter in a car. There's a rubber plug on the gauge you can remove to drain it.
 

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Ive been using the Lock n flate for a while now. Still love it. Not sure if it works on special BMW valves though
 

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I use the Milwaukee M12 inflater it has the accurate digital gauge and brings the air pressure to recommended (look a drivers door pillar) to set it and check and fill each tire. M12 battery will fill several tires and top off several before running out of energy.
 

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I have a couple of the Makita DMP180 18V tire inflators since I'm on that platform. Compact size and good ergonomics. Can top up 12 tires and the 3.0 battery has plenty of life left. Locking chuck but no locking trigger (velcro strap solves that) . Accuracy is within 1 psi of my expensive +/-0.25% digital gauge like the one racing teams use.
 
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