Looking to buy a nutsert/rivnut tool

stutts · Jan 21, 2015

looking for some sugestions, in a quality long lasting tool, needing it mainly for nutserts at the moment, but will be riveting also down the line.
thanks guys

CobraRed · Jan 21, 2015

I use Astro's 1442 and it's treated me well, saw their 1442 at SEMA had a new head piece that is like a quick change that doesnt require tools to change out the mandrel/nose piece.

383 240z · Jan 21, 2015

I have a Blue Point one, had it for years, pulled a ton on nutserts with it when I was building custom cars. It will pull up to 1/4" with the arbors that I have, think I have down to #12 IIRC. I don't know of any nutsert tools that also pull rivets, but I could be wrong.

I'm pretty sure its a re-branded Marson Keith

383 240z · Jan 21, 2015

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231207&showall=1

MFolks · Jan 21, 2015

Some choices:

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...=aps&hvadid=3527362300&ref=pd_sl_4ok6tsnvk8_b

sz0k30 · Jan 21, 2015

Check out this place:

http://www.rivetsinstock.com/

rshadd · Jan 21, 2015

I have the Marson 39302 Poly Nut Thread Setter Kit. I don't use it often, but when I do it always works great. It's built to last. The larger nutserts do require a good amount of hand strength. If you plan on setting a lot of these, you might want to consider a hydraulic or pneumatic gun.

This is a 1/4"-20 nutsert sample...

Strouty · Jan 21, 2015

I have a hydraulic one, I think Wurth rebranded it, not sure. They are more expensive, but the work much better. It will do 1/4" rivets as well as up to 3/8" nutserts.

http://www.tooltopia.com/huck-hk150...QEVQL_k39_Ef3D4F4FbKnZgAl_e2DlAcAYaApxv8P8HAQ

jjjrmx5 · Jan 21, 2015

Someone just posted this question back in late 2014.

Here's another older thread.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133153

For hand units I use AVK.

Pegasus Racing and Jegs both also sell hand units as many if not most race shops use them for racecar assembly of various components.

188slo50 · Jan 21, 2015

I have a marson and had it for years still works like new.

stutts · Jan 21, 2015

probably have a total of like 20-30 to do max, going with m6-m8 size serts, are those hand ones capable of doing those?
thanks

i will be better at searching from now on.

miketyler · Jan 21, 2015

Nothing ***** more than removing a screw later and having the nutsert spin in the hole. I might also suggest you consider the rivnuts with the serrated flange so they bite into the material when pulled.

Aircraft rivnuts require that you notch the hole to accomodatte locking tang on the flange. I have had better luck with the serrated type. I actually add a little structural epoxy on them to give them a little more holding strength.

n8n · Jan 21, 2015

If you only have a few to do you don't need a tool at all, you can fake it with a long machine screw and nut and a few lubed washers...

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Hammer1963 · Jan 21, 2015

Another vote for the Astro brand

got2boostit2 · Jan 21, 2015

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xxaler · Jan 21, 2015

I hate to be the **** that always recommends the cheap brand, but...

I'm using the Powerfist (Princess Auto) nutsert gun and have probably put somewhere around 150- 1/4" nutserts and 200+ 10-24 nutserts through it without any problem. Great tool to have, I was amazed I went wandering through my entire life lost and confused before I found this tool.

K-Dog · Jan 21, 2015

I HAD the Marson set and I hated it.

wagzilla · Jan 21, 2015

Mine are simple and work!

Lawson

James

cheechi · Jan 21, 2015

miketyler said:
Nothing ***** more than removing a screw later and having the nutsert spin in the hole. I might also suggest you consider the rivnuts with the serrated flange so they bite into the material when pulled.

I can tell you something that ***** more. When those bite too much or the wrong way and basically you have reamers because they didn't set right. Drilled out plenty of that type and I don't like them at all. The best are the square, notched, or hex style but you have to have $$$ for that kind of setup.

I do like your idea of epoxy though I have used that from time to time.

My only experience with actual sert guns is Bollhoff pneumatic or air over hydraulic I forget which. I wouldn't know where to buy a hand one other than Amazon before these recent threads.

devoncoolman · Jan 21, 2015

Hey wagzilla what set up is that?

Loudpipes66 · Jan 22, 2015

Check ebay. I picked up a Blue Point HP400 complete with all the dies and a ton of nuts in excellent condition for $56 shipped.

LXCam · Jan 22, 2015

I have both the Marson and my original I bought 35 years ago like what magzilla posted. I use the marson all the time and echo going with the sheraded inserts. But my old one is my favorite, it seems to do a much better job locking them in, it's just not as fast.

cruzer75 · Jan 22, 2015

If you dont have a lot to do the manually ones with a bolt, washers and wrenches works ok. We sell kits at work for customer install of 5mm bolts and they work fine, no complaints.

K-Dog · Jan 22, 2015

wagzilla said:
Mine are simple and work!

James

Can I get a little more info on this ?

lashlee · Jan 22, 2015

I second (or third) a Marson. At one point I misplaced my 1/4-20 arbor and bought a HF one and broke it on the first try. Horrible design and cheap materials. Get a quality one that will last.

Idle Serge · Jan 23, 2015

This is what I use--super easy and efficient nutsert attachment:

www.dafra.com.au

Difficult to come by here in the states but Australian sites have them easily accessible:

Cope · Jan 23, 2015

stutts said:
probably have a total of like 20-30 to do max, going with m6-m8 size serts, are those hand ones capable of doing those?
thanks

i will be better at searching from now on.

M8 you will need Aluminum inserts. I did a couple of steel ones with mine but had to use a c-clamp to tighten it.

raf0419 · Jan 23, 2015

Anybody else get a kick out of the name "Nutsert"? [emoji12]

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LXCam · Jan 23, 2015

raf0419 said:
Anybody else get a kick out of the name "Nutsert"? [emoji12]

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Heck I have a mini socket set called the palmster....had to have that one. :evil:

Here's both sets. Like I said earlier, the old unit makes for a more secure crimp and it goes up to 3/8". One of these days I gotta remember to order more of those inserts.

Eldogg · Jan 24, 2015

Huck HK-150N here.

jrrazo29 · Jan 24, 2015

Kind of expensive, but at work we have a Blue Pneumatic rivnut tool. Takes literally 3 seconds to install a rivnut.

wagzilla · Jan 26, 2015

hi guys Kimball Midwest is the company

#5/16-18 Tric-Nut Insert Conversion Kit

For Use With Tric-Nut Insert Installation Tool 85-051

Package Quantity: 1
you don't need a special tool to use it

James

K-Dog · Jan 26, 2015

wagzilla said:
hi guys Kimball Midwest is the company

#5/16-18 Tric-Nut Insert Conversion Kit

For Use With Tric-Nut Insert Installation Tool 85-051

Package Quantity: 1
you don't need a special tool to use it

James

Lowes? Home Depo ?
I looked on Amazon and unless I was using poor search terminology ( which is likely ) I cant find that tool.

Ramper · Jan 27, 2015

Is there a conversion that allows you to use a pneumatic riveter as a nutsert installer? The pulling is the same. I would LOVE a pneumatic, but can't justify the cost since I already have a good air riveter.

garandman · Jun 13, 2019

Been using the 13” Astro Pneumatics 1442 to install McMaster heavy wall 1/4” Nutserts. It has the quick change head and came with mandrels up to 5/16.

Wouldn’t want anything smaller.

The Tool Tyrant · Jun 14, 2019

https://www.fsirivet.com/6bFQM3N9IqgAHoP/1344377857D100MIL1_D180.pdf

We have a few of these in the shop and use them everyday. Hydraulic is much easier to use than the less expensive manual :Mr.T:

types...especially if you have a lot of Rivnuts (nutserts) to install. We use the serrated style Rivnuts (nutserts) and NEVER have issues with them spinning :willy_nil

. I would venture to guess that we have installed at least 10,000 Rivnuts (nutserts) over the past ten years, so I'm not blowing smoke here.

You can still find a good deal on these on ebay every now and then if you keep your eyes open :yikes:

dnschmidt · Jun 14, 2019

Astro really has several good setups for these. They have manual ones, as has already been mentioned, they have air powered ones in multiple varieties and they have one that uses an 18V cordless drill. Here's their selection: http://www.astrotools.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+rivet+nut

Mr. Tool · Jun 14, 2019

Sub'd!

CSXRAILFAN · Sep 5, 2019

wagzilla said:
Mine are simple and work!

Lawson

James

I know this is really old but.... can you tell me what I am looking at? What is this set up you are using that appears to work so well.

Hagatronics · Sep 5, 2019

I've always used the terms nutsert and rivnut interchangeably but y'all seem to indicate they are somehow different. Is there a difference?

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