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I noticed you have wall-mounted A/C units downstairs and upstairs. Are those also supplying heat (heat pumps) or do you have another method of heating the garage? Great project!

Yeah they're heat pumps too. Idea is to just knock the chill off in the winter and keep humidity down in the summer. Should do the trick.
 
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Wall paint got done this week. I'm terrible at picking colors so it's not exactly what I was going for, but still turned out pretty well I think. The trim, stairs, and floors will get painted next week. The trim is going white with the "collar" and stair treads going dark gray. The floor is going to be epoxied forest green downstairs and oil paint forest green on the upstairs floor.
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The only thing I would change is to hang the OSB with the other side out (the smoother side). The builder hung it the way you're supposed to (with the slick side in and the guide lines on the rough side out), but it would look a lot smoother the other way. I don't know why they put the guide lines on the rough side!

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Letting the pressure treated 6x6 age as much as possible before painting it with oil paint. The dormer beam is being "painted" with linseed oil before handing the I-beam for the trolley.
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The got my little deck down too. Really glad I extended this from a simple little pad and steps. It's the only little piece of privacy I have now that our neighborhood has filled in so much. It's not huge, but big enough for me in a chair with a beer.
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No lights and it's nice and bright in there. :thumbup:


I'll throw this out there too. When you finish (or whoever) that beam with the linseed oil, get the rags outside after you are done and don't let them lay around. More than once I have been on a fire that was a result of linseed oil soaked rags that spontaneously combusted. :scared:
 
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No lights and it's nice and bright in there. :thumbup:

I'll throw this out there too. When you finish (or whoever) that beam with the linseed oil, get the rags outside after you are done and don't let them lay around. More than once I have been on a fire that was a result of linseed oil soaked rags that spontaneously combusted. :scared:

The white paint really helped brighten things up. I thought about going all white but I think it would've been too sterile looking. And with the green floor the gray will make a good transition to the white I think. At least that's the thought. Like I said...I'm no interior designer!

Man that is great to know about the linseed oil. I've never heard that before. I'll make sure the painter knows. Like always you a welcome wealth of info! Thanks man!

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It looks like a different place with a little drywall and paint! You really do have great views inside and outside!

Can't wait to see pics after you get all moved in and start working.
 

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You're making me use my first post to ask you for a photo of that stair door open

its driving me crazy

if I die between now and the time you post the picture, my life will be incomplete

please post it
 
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You're making me use my first post to ask you for a photo of that stair door open

its driving me crazy

if I die between now and the time you post the picture, my life will be incomplete

please post it

god knows i can't be responsible for an incomplete life!

It's not very conventional I suppose, but...
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Man that looks great! i actually like the texture the painted OSB has to it. That looks great, thanks for keeping us updated :D love your loft/railing!
 
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Hey looks great! Can't wait to see the lights on and lift in.

yeah me too...i need to go ahead and order a lift. been going back and forth on whether to spend the money on the bend-pak. for all the accessories you get with some of the cheaper ones the bend-pak ends up costing twice as much. i generally go on the "spend more, buy once" mentality and certainly don't want to have to replace a cheap one in 2 years, but they seem to get good reviews too. tough decision!
 

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yeah me too...i need to go ahead and order a lift. been going back and forth on whether to spend the money on the bend-pak. for all the accessories you get with some of the cheaper ones the bend-pak ends up costing twice as much. i generally go on the "spend more, buy once" mentality and certainly don't want to have to replace a cheap one in 2 years, but they seem to get good reviews too. tough decision!

I am still building my shop door ( long story ) but have got my brother finding my 2post hoist right now. As for the cheap and lasting option, he runs a five bay shop with very good volume and has had no issues with the " cheap" brand hoists he has bought. For a weekend warrior shop I don't think we would ever wear one out.

My $0.02... A lot of comments on this site can get a bit pretentious, especially when it comes to tools...and the hoist is about as big a shop tool as you'll find.
 
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I am still building my shop door ( long story ) but have got my brother finding my 2post hoist right now. As for the cheap and lasting option, he runs a five bay shop with very good volume and has had no issues with the " cheap" brand hoists he has bought. For a weekend warrior shop I don't think we would ever wear one out.

My $0.02... A lot of comments on this site can get a bit pretentious, especially when it comes to tools...and the hoist is about as big a shop tool as you'll find.

Yeah I think you're right. I will probably raise and lower my lift a couple times a week. I do want it to last a long time though so that's my hang up. I don't know if there is good long term reviews out. I wish there were more convincing arguments and features on the bend pak to sway me harder that way. They seem safer and better built but I'm not sure twice so!
 

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Did you do anything special under the slab (extra reinforcement or footings?) under where the posts of the lift will be?
 
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Did you do anything special under the slab (extra reinforcement or footings?) under where the posts of the lift will be?

yeah kind-of...there is anywhere from 3-6' of packed gravel under the whole slab, as well as a pillar of concrete in the center down to the footers. Then we poured 4.5-5" of fiber reinforced 3500# (i think!) concrete. the guy doing the concrete said he parks a bulldozer that weighs several tons on top of less so I'm hoping it holds up! from everything I've read or heard it should...but you never know!
 

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Fantastic build Lyle! It is crazy how a little bit of paint makes the whole place look so much bigger. I agree with the previous comment on putting lights on that trim around the dormer in the open bay. It will help when you have a car on the lift to have light shining underneath. You can never have enough light! put a fridge upstairs and a good la-z boy chair pointing out the window at that view and you'll only leave to eat and use the bathroom in the house!
 

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No lights and it's nice and bright in there. :thumbup:


I'll throw this out there too. When you finish (or whoever) that beam with the linseed oil, get the rags outside after you are done and don't let them lay around. More than once I have been on a fire that was a result of linseed oil soaked rags that spontaneously combusted. :scared:

I'm glad to see you posted that. I also think that one of the members on here had a fire caused by that at one time although no damage. And more often than not, people are being made more aware of it. If any members on here are into woodworking and use Linseed Oil, then make sure you get a fireproof container to throw the rags in, or burn them in a burn barrel. Do Not toss them in with other household trash that would have papers to make a larger fire.

From Wikipedia......
Spontaneous combustion

Rags soaked with linseed oil stored in a pile are considered a fire hazard because they provide a large surface area for oxidation of the oil, and the oil oxidizes quickly. The oxidation of linseed oil is an exothermic reaction, which accelerates as the temperature of the rags increases. When heat accumulation exceeds the rate of heat dissipation into the environment, the temperature increases and may eventually become hot enough to make the rags spontaneously combust.[32]
In 1991, One Meridian Plaza, a high rise in Philadelphia was severely damaged and three firefighters perished in a fire caused by linseed oil-soaked rags.[33] In 2011, a garage in Sacramento also caught fire due to the spontaneous combustion of linseed oil-soaked rags.[34]
 
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Yard is down!
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Hopefully they finish this week. All that's left is exterior paint, hang the I-beam, trim paint, hang lights, asphalt. The asphalt is going to be a couple weeks along with final landscaping and all but I don't count that.
 
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So all my hay blew away today. No idea if the grass will stick. Ugh. It'll cost me a small fortune to sod if I have to! Maybe hydro seed? Has anybody had luck with that or have any ideas? We live at the base of these mountains here and it's windy all the time. To give an example they didn't even mention wind on the weather for today for our town and my weather thing posted a 46mph gust at one point. We average about 12mph always!
 

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I like this thread (build) so much that I tried to subscribe to it twice!

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Thanks will!

So they've literally built like 3 house in my neighborhood since I started my garage. Granted they are production builders and the houses will probably start falling apart in a couple years but still...I want this done! This is the price you pay for having quality father/son builders build for you.

They got the I-beam in place today. It looks pretty good. I can't decide if I should paint it or not. The red primer actually doesn't bother me.
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Also got my eye hooks in for the hoist rack thing I'm going to have over the lift to take the camper shell off my Toyota and the steel top off my bronco.
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They're kind of hard to see because the painter is still here and I had him paint them white. Electricians were here today too but the lights are ordered and not in so they couldn't finish.

And since all my hay blew away I have to pay to have more laid down and then some guy come behind the hay guys to stick it down with that hydro seed stuff (minus the seed). Hopefully that will work and in a couple months ill have some semblance of grass!
 

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And since all my hay blew away I have to pay to have more laid down and then some guy come behind the hay guys to stick it down with that hydro seed stuff (minus the seed). Hopefully that will work and in a couple months ill have some semblance of grass!


Pssst. It's straw not hay. :lol:

I wouldn't pay to have it done. I'd go pick up a few bales and do it yourself. You may want to check out the landscape places and see if they have any of the netting you can put down (with stakes)over it to hold it in place.

Please forgive the Ebay link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mesh-Fence-...109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c300e74fd

It comes in different sizes which I find something wider than what I linked. If you're having trouble with the straw blowing away, I would do the area around the drive way first. As the grass starts coming up, I would put straw down in a different area and move the netting to that area. If you water that grass, it'll come up alot faster too.
 
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Pssst. It's straw not hay. :lol:

I wouldn't pay to have it done. I'd go pick up a few bales and do it yourself. You may want to check out the landscape places and see if they have any of the netting you can put down (with stakes)over it to hold it in place.

Please forgive the Ebay link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mesh-Fence-...109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c300e74fd

It comes in different sizes which I find something wider than what I linked. If you're having trouble with the straw blowing away, I would do the area around the drive way first. As the grass starts coming up, I would put straw down in a different area and move the netting to that area. If you water that grass, it'll come up alot faster too.

hahaha...thanks man. I didn't realize there was a difference between straw and hay! I feel real lazy paying people to do this stuff because in the past I've done almost all of these different things myself, but right now I'm so busy with work it would take me forever and I need to get it done. Plus these guys have a straw chipper/shooter thing so it's finer and the other guy has the hydro-seed thing that is supposed to tack it all down. They did it today and then this evening we actually had heavy snow (crazy for central VA in April!) followed by some steady rain so that's good. I'm going to set up sprinklers this weekend to keep water on it so it'll grow pretty fast (I hope!).

The painters got more of the inside done today and got to the dark gray. It turned out really great I think. Breaks up the light gray and white.
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I can't wait to see everything with the dark green floors. I'm also epoxying the I-beam in the same green as the floor to protect it even more from rust.
 
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Got the doors done for the dormer. Haven't decided if they're going to be painted dark green like the front door on our house, dark green with white trim, white, etc. I like how they turned out though. They work really well too. Seal up nicely. The rail slides into place and I can easily pull it up and move it out of the way.
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Color choices -:willy_nil- they can be a ****** to decide on! Are you planning on having the railing there all the time or only when the doors are open? The reason I ask is that you might want to post an exterior picture without it and in doing so, it might make the color scheme choice more straightforward. The body/trim choices for the door can make it 'pop', 'disappear', or 'stick out like a sore thumb'. Another question is - are you going to paint the steel beam to best match the wood support above it? Oh, and don't forget to consider the effect on color that an exterior light in the peak will have depending on the bulb type, reflector color, and wattage output. It can be an 'accent', a 'wall color highlight', an annoying beacon blinding the eye, or a light & fixture that enhances the overall look of the building. Have fun with your choices! :eyecrazy: lol
 

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Got the doors done for the dormer. Haven't decided if they're going to be painted dark green like the front door on our house, dark green with white trim, white, etc. I like how they turned out though. They work really well too. Seal up nicely. The rail slides into place and I can easily pull it up and move it out of the way.
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If you get a chance in the coming weeks I'd be endebted for some close shots on how you dealt with the doors closing around your beam, looks awesome though:rocker:

Is that "gate" outside the doors just for inspection or permanently staying in front of the great looking doors?
 
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Color choices -:willy_nil- they can be a ****** to decide on! Are you planning on having the railing there all the time or only when the doors are open? The reason I ask is that you might want to post an exterior picture without it and in doing so, it might make the color scheme choice more straightforward. The body/trim choices for the door can make it 'pop', 'disappear', or 'stick out like a sore thumb'. Another question is - are you going to paint the steel beam to best match the wood support above it? Oh, and don't forget to consider the effect on color that an exterior light in the peak will have depending on the bulb type, reflector color, and wattage output. It can be an 'accent', a 'wall color highlight', an annoying beacon blinding the eye, or a light & fixture that enhances the overall look of the building. Have fun with your choices! :eyecrazy: lol

hahaha...thanks? not sure if you made my decision easier or harder! The nice thing about paint is that it's easy to change! My wife suggested actually painting the doors the same color as the hardiplank and the criss crosses white like the trim. The steel beam is being epoxied green. The railing will really only be there when the doors are open I think. I left it up for now so the painter will paint it. I'll post some pics of it down later hopefully. They are painting more today so it'll depend on what's wet when i get home!
 
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If you get a chance in the coming weeks I'd be endebted for some close shots on how you dealt with the doors closing around your beam, looks awesome though:rocker:

Is that "gate" outside the doors just for inspection or permanently staying in front of the great looking doors?

sure thing man...I'll take some more pics of that. It's not completely done actually. They framed around the beam to the left and right and the doors actually close directly below it. The only thing that they have left to do is put these sweeper things (look like the bottom of a nylon broom) in the gaps left in the middle of the I-beam. Should block some wind and rain and bugs but still allow the trolley to slide through. I'll post pics showing what I mean!

The gate is a lift out and won't be there most of the time. It's just sitting there waiting for paint right now!
 

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hahaha...thanks? not sure if you made my decision easier or harder! The nice thing about paint is that it's easy to change! My wife suggested actually painting the doors the same color as the hardiplank and the criss crosses white like the trim. The steel beam is being epoxied green. The railing will really only be there when the doors are open I think. I left it up for now so the painter will paint it. I'll post some pics of it down later hopefully. They are painting more today so it'll depend on what's wet when i get home!

Listen to your wife ;)
 

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Take a roller and roll your soon to be lawn. That will imbed the seed into the dirt somewhat. A lot of people don't even put straw down, but it realy helps to keep the moisture in so the seed will germinate and grow.

If it were me, I would probably get some more straw, spread it out even if you have to do it by hand, then water things in. Once the grass starts to come up through, don't rake out the straw, but mow everything and chop the straw up along with the grass. Just go in opposite directions so you get an even covering. If you have a rider, raise the deck up to evenly distribute everything. After about three or four mowings and the grass toughens up some, then you can give it a light raking to get rid of some of the excess . But don't rake hard as you'll pull the grass up as the roots will still be small and tender.
 
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Just read the thread...

Nice project - great result...

Tony

Tasmania...very cool. I lived in Newcastle for about a year when I was 20. I love Australia. If it weren't for family in the US I'd move back in a minute. Never made it to Tasmania but I wish I had. Melbourne was probably my favorite.

Thanks for the compliment BTW.
 
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