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Chadro

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I know Mac is kind of the whipping boy around here but come on guys, some of you have to like their tools. My best friends family owns a trucking company so I kind of came up working on trucks. His dad who has been wrenching 30 years always told us Mac tools were the best tools you could buy followed by Snap-on. He doesn't fix trucks anymore do to his back so I'm assuming he was basing his opinion on older tools.

I have some Mac tools myself and I'm perfectly satisfied with them. So lets hear it, what are your favorite MAC tools...
 
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tweety652

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i have an uncle that's the same way..He SWEARS by MAC tools, but he was wrenching years ago before MAC soldout to China....that, in my opionion will be their downfall.
 

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I have some of their probably imported picks, screwdrivers and mini files. They are nice tools but they are no snap on.
 

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The only thing I really like from MAC these days is their knurled extensions as they are the only company that puts the knurling where it does the most good, around the female square drive. Great for finger spinning and starting fasteners.
 

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When I owned Mac tools "long ago," I thought their toolboxes looked the best; still do. I also liked Mac's handles on their ratchets, screwdrivers, etc.
 

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i have an uncle that's the same way..He SWEARS by MAC tools, but he was wrenching years ago before MAC soldout


Don't know anything about Mac, so can't comment.
This seems to be the way with a lot of recommendations on the 'net. Some guy, when the product in question was in it's heyday, swears by the stuff. It's like the DeWalt or Milwaukee today. Of course an old-timer using Milwaukee or DeWalt stuff from the 80's is going to swear by the products. They were so good, he used them for 30 years. Some how, I don't see that longevity happening today.
 

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Mac does indeed make some nice tools. I used to own the knuckle saver wrenches and loved them. The only reason I got rid of them was because the dealer that came to the shop went belly up. So I switched to SO. I liked the mac much better. They also have rebranded Knipex tools that the dealer will warranty if you can keep one. I have a set of the Chinese made Mac impact sockets that are good for rounded bolts. Other than their COO they are great. I think that most of what people on this board base their perception on is:

1. Where the tool is made
2. Customer service

I am not in any way saying that is wrong. Mac was at one time a stalwart brand that had a great reputation, unfortunately some poor business decisions put the Stanley group in charge. Now they are a shadow of what they used to be.
 

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When I first started off in the auto repair business back in the early 70's I was buying MAC tools. I continued buying the tools up until a few years ago. I bought a set of MAC brand Vise Grip Pliers (monthly special) and a set of MAC special edition John Force screwdrivers. I was busy in the auto repair business and didn't question the COO because I just assumed that all MAC branded tools were built in the USA. When I saw both those sets and how cheap they were built and what real POS they really were I got to looking very carefully at the quality of their tools. Unlike Snap-On who in most cases improves quality that MAC Tools had begun a real downward spiral since the Stanley Takeover. The Foose special edition is nothing but Stanley Pro tools neatly arranged in a cheap POS box and pimped out under the MAC tools and Chip Foose banner. To me it makes both of them sellouts. Many MAC dealers threw in the towel a few years back and the dealers had their own forum and lawsuit going against MAC. My MAC dealer that started doing business the same month and year that I went to work at my first dealership threw in the towel after 40 years and started a garage door company. He stated that the tools had gone in the toilet, service to the dealers was near impossible and MAC/Stanley wanted them selling MAC branded China built tools at near the price of the original MAC USA branded tools.

Mac tools has become the pimp of China flying the American Flag. I love my Macsimizer (built in the USA) boxes but just about all the other MAC stuff I own I've just about sold off. I have a few sets of Wrenches left and a good many sockets but I wont ever set foot back on the truck unless it's for a replacement or maybe a drawer slide for my boxes.

They are not the whipping boy, they stepped into this with their eyes on nothing but the bottom line and proceeded to shoot themselves in the foot. It's their own fault for the reputation they have built. You can step on a MAC truck and buy some Stanley China stuff at near Snap-On prices or go online to Wal-Mart.com and buy the Stanley Professional line (same as MAC Foose,Pliers, Locking pliers,long nose Pliers, for about 1/10 the cost off the truck. MAC has become a product of it's own greed.

My favorite MAC tool are my toolboxes. Far superior to Snap-On in strength and duability although not quite as pretty but my Macsimizers are 6 years old. Hell they may be built in Tiwan for all I know now. To me Stanley Taking over MAC Tools is ending up about the same as when AMF bought Harley Davidson. Maybe as MAC slides down the toilet there will be a buy out by what few American employees left and they can build a company worthy to be called MAC Tools again. For the record I'm seeing more and more Snap-On stuff coming from China/Tiwan. It's a crying shame that Blue Point wrenches and sockets are built in Tiwan and Lowes/Kobalt wrenches and sockets are built in the US. People better wake up and start to boycott these sell out companies. If you want China built tools go to Harbor Freight and pay what they are really worth. I have nothing agaist HF because you know what you are getting when you walk through the door. In my opinion MAC, Matco and several other former top name brand tool companies have become the Trojan Horse of the tool world. They roll in as one thing but filled with Chinese.

I could go on my they keys of my laptop are starting to glow, lol
 
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I have a bunch of Mac Tools, most of them over 15 years old... My Mac hard handle red screwdrivers and door panel pullers are awesome, my Mac air tools have been flawless and my Mac wrenches are all excellent, too. Mac has never let me down.

If I had to put a number on it, I would put them at about 85-90% of the quality of a Snap-On tool (and I own a few of those, too).
 

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AFAIK, most if not all of the Mac air tools were made by ingersoll rand, astro pneumatic and florida pneumatic...
 

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I own a bit of MAC and I'm a happy camper. I use my tools fairly often (I'm a full-time college student with a mobile mechanic biz on the side) and they have never let me down. MAC dealers are hard to come by so I prefer to just box them up and send them into MAC's warranty department. As long as I see those three little letters... U.S.A. ... I don't worry. It's when I don't see them I become a little skeptical.
 
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We have a Mac dealer that runs around my house but I don't have one that comes by the shop. I'm wanting some more of their hardline stuff so I may have to meet up with him because dealing with the website makes me want to pull my hair out.

Snap-on, Matco and Cornwell are the only ones at my shop. Cornwell is another unappreciated tool company it seems, I may have to give them a shot as well.

I'm wanting to dump my Craftsman box for a Macsimizer but the lack of dealer support bothers me. Man those boxes are nice though.
 
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Chad watch out for imports in both the mac and cornwell lines

Infact stay away from mac all together.

Well Snapon and Matco both have a ton of my money and I'm not a one brand kind of guy. I'm Using Snapon, Matco, Mac, Craftsman and HF right now and I feel that I need to spread the love around.
 

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I own a bit of MAC and I'm a happy camper. I use my tools fairly often (I'm a full-time college student with a mobile mechanic biz on the side) and they have never let me down. MAC dealers are hard to come by so I prefer to just box them up and send them into MAC's warranty department. As long as I see those three little letters... U.S.A. ... I don't worry. It's when I don't see them I become a little skeptical.

Don't get me wrong I still own a good bit of MAC stuff and it has served me well. Some of the stuff I like but most of it predates Stanley. I'm sure the hardline stuff like Ratches, wrenches and Sockets are still high quality USA built stuff. The problem is that the rest of the line has gone so far downhill and so much outsorced to China an Tiwan that I'm just not interested in the product line. I don't like Mac Ratchets so basicly the only thing thats lft for me is sockets and extentions. The rest of that **** you end up paying premium prices for substandard tools. If that was my goal was to buy USA built Wrenches, Sockets and Ratchets I can do that at Lowes in the Kobalt line of better yet Sears in the Craftsman line. I would much rather have a Craftsman Professional ratchet than a MAC. The thing with MAC is that they **** you in with good sockets and wrenches and it makes you beleive in the product. They they hose you on everything else. Kobalt is the same way. At least with Craftsman you can get out like a bandit if you shop careful and you still come out with a quality product. May not be as good as it was 30 years ago but still a lot of bang for the buck.
 

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I'm wanting to dump my Craftsman box for a Macsimizer but the lack of dealer support bothers me. Man those boxes are nice though.

I had a Maximizer double bank for a while, and it was a pretty nice box. VERY solid. But I did have a couple of gripes. I did not care for the way you had to give the drawers a hard pull to overcome the friction detent, (which is designed to keep them from opening accidentally). Some folks prefer this to Snap-on's Lock-n-Roll; I do not. Also, mine had four wheels. The spot welds around one wheel broke, and I had to reweld the support plate for the wheel. Pretty pathetic that it was only spot welded...should have been a long weld bead instead. My friend has a later model of the same double bank, and they went to six wheels. I guess they figured out that their chassis was not stong enough to support a loaded box with only 4 wheels. So if you want one of these, make sure you get one with the six wheels.
 

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I picked up some mac pliers and I paid a lot of money, only to find they were made in china; I don't mind the coo but why on earth , I had to pay so much money is beyond me.

You paid for a name that was poorly laseres on the pliers. Congrads :)
 
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I picked up some mac pliers and I paid a lot of money, only to find they were made in china; I don't mind the coo but why on earth , I had to pay so much money is beyond me.

I bought one of the monthy special long handled pliers sets back (2006??) and they came in this nice zip up pouch (tossed it) and I think there was about 8 pairs of differant long handle needle nose (bent tip, straight, 45, several differant hose removal pliers, etc) for like 159. Yeah Good deal! Until I put the hose removal pliers against the first set I bought back in 94. Biggest POS this side of Pittsburg Tools. (nothing against Pittsburg as you don't expect tool truck quality from HF). Now the pliers would get the job done but some of my stuff has been doing that for 75 years (some of my dads stuff) Had the shop I was working at in the 80's burned down I have even more of it. Even though Stanley bought MAC tools in 1980 they kepth the pencil pushing geeks out of that part of the business. When they got greedy in the late 90's the poop hit the fan with service and quality.
 

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Chad watch out for imports in both the mac and cornwell lines

Infact stay away from mac all together.

Before I got this computer I used to study the MAC catalog up and down, backwards and forwards, and even sideways. I KNOW which parts numbers are USA. ;)
 

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i have tools from all the tool trucks, and beyond...
to be truthful, i havent bought a new MAC tool in 15 years. the MAC's that i do own are mainly angle head wrenches 1 1/16" - 1 5/8", a couple hard handle screwdrivers, and a couple ratchets.
wrenches and hardhandle screwdrivers are great, the ratchets leave a LOT to be desired IMO. ive never had ratchets break like these do. i even replaced a 3/8 dr long flex head with one from autozone, and have had zero problems.

i never liked MAC's toolboxes, but i do own one MAC side box that i bought used, and havent had any issues with it.

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My Kiwi pliers.I believe last month I was told my dealer was going out of buisness,It was quit the tool route or lose his home.Mac's refurbished ratchets hold up than Craftsman's ratchets.If anyone at Sears hand you a refurbished ratchet for a replacement,turn it down and request a new one.Craftsman uses plastic gears in their refurbished ratchets.I know someone that went through this,was given a refurbished ratchet for a replacement and it broke right away.
 

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I have some MAC tools, as someone stated earlier, the extension have the knurling in the correct places. MAC had some nice ratchets up until 1977 when they went with the current design. The older ratchets had 60 or 45 tooth, new models 30. My MAC tools are the American made hardlines. What I have are excellent quality. My dad has MAC tools from the 70's, my grandpa has screwdrivers from MAC. Older MAC tools = good, newer MAC tools = iffy
 

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Most of the older Mac tools you can't get parts for anymore or are obsolete.Mac dealer I have whom is going out of buisness had a customer bring a torque wrench that broke and found out it was obsolete.Only option was credit to a new torque wrench.I have a set of line wrenches from the 1960s still in the original pouch I bought on Ebay,it has not gauranteed on the wrenches.Mac and Matco used to be buisness partners in the tool buisness,broke up in 1979 and it happened when my father started working at a Chrysler dealership.
 

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I dislike MAC ratchets, love the hardhandles and screwdrivers except the Macsimizers, and the USA made sockets are some of the toughest around. The Knucklesavers are also beautiful, but they cut my hand. So I bought Cornwells instead.
The Edge sockets built in Taiwan do their job, but unless the price gets cut in half its not a good investment.
 

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I like my little MAC ratchet. It's old school but it's comfy. :)

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I had to send in a few pliars for warranty - took over three weeks to get back five of the six I sent in. The sixth? Still waiting. It's been six weeks and counting.

I also sent in some sockets - they replaced about half and sent the other half back to me, stating "tools not broken". Here's the thing...

None of the tools were "broken". The ones they sent back were actually the ones that were in the worst condition - they were 12-point industrial sockets that were pretty much used-up, and the exterior was so worn that the size could no longer be read.

I re-sent them to Mac, and included a copy of their warranty policy (which does not require that teh tool be "broken". Still waiting...

There is no way I would buy another Mac tool...
 

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Slightly off topic, but are there any Mac dealers on the board?

I don't see any Mac trucks around and I bought a VR15PA ratchet for $5 that needs a rebuild kit.

:confused::beer:

None on the forum (they would be shamed off with in hours)

Try sending it in to Mac.
 

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When I have sent tools to MAC I get them back within two weeks. I sent back a VR15 ratchet, really nothing wrong knurling was almost wore smooth. I got a VR17 back and I have no complaints. The box of tools that came with it in warranty return was over $200 of new tools. My experience with MAC's warranty is a very positive one, I send in broken tools they send me new ones no questions asked.
 

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If you need a rebuild kit; call mac and they will send you kits in the mail for free... they even sent me more then one! :)
 
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