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Thehag

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For a directory of tools that are American made go to the following site

StillmadeinUSA.com

Sadly many of the brands we have always trusted are no longer made here.
 
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woody 73

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I wish that things were that easy, case in point I enjoy writing tool stories and I also like doing stories for the GJ posts MADE IN THE USA.

This is my problem just when I think I find an all American company to write another story I hit a brick wall; see following example:

Conversation just this morning with the Malco Company "Hi, this is woody could you tell me are all your tools & products made in the USA?"

"Deb speaking yes some of are products are still made in the USA, but many others are made in other countries"...

End of story never to be used on the GJ, and it is only getting harder to find 100% made in the USA companies.

Woody:)
 

6PTsocket

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I wish that things were that easy, case in point I enjoy writing tool stories and I also like doing stories for the GJ posts MADE IN THE USA.

This is my problem just when I think I find an all American company to write another story I hit a brick wall; see following example:

Conversation just this morning with the Malco Company "Hi, this is woody could you tell me are all your tools & products made in the USA?"

"Deb speaking yes some of are products are still made in the USA, but many others are made in other countries"...

End of story never to be used on the GJ, and it is only getting harder to find 100% made in the USA companies.

Woody:)
There is another thread about Malco moving into an old Vice Grip factory and plans to be up and running in a couple of years, so the news isn't all bad.

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davethorik

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Like Starrett. Used to be 100% USA, not so much these days. Their website has some of the products labeled, but not all. And the ones not from USA, they don't so much as give you a clue as to where they're from.
 

tdellenburg

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Like Starrett. Used to be 100% USA, not so much these days. Their website has some of the products labeled, but not all. And the ones not from USA, they don't so much as give you a clue as to where they're from.

They can only get away with it if we keep giving them our $$$!!!
 

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Anyone who wants to understand how we got here, should watch this video.
Narrated by Martin Sheen, it's a very professionally made movie on all the underhanded dealings that went on to take our manufacturing base.

 

tdellenburg

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Anyone who wants to understand how we got here, should watch this video.
Narrated by Martin Sheen, it's a very professionally made movie on all the underhanded dealings that went on to take our manufacturing base.


I've been telling people this for years, and they won't friggin listen!

Excellent video sir, thanks for sharing.
 

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I love how the politicians are all up in arms about it, but the problem started decades ago, and has only gotten worse throughout multiple administrations...

I wonder if you raided Martin Sheen's house(s) how much made in China **** you'd find?

"China stole our jobs", uh no, we gave them away...
 

tdellenburg

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"China stole our jobs", uh no, we gave them away...

I agree with you 100%. And if we don't stop, they'll have us lock, stock, and barrel. Assuming they don't already! I'm not convinced American can survive at all at this point. We are, by definition, bankrupt.
 

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I agree with you 100%. And if we don't stop, they'll have us lock, stock, and barrel. Assuming they don't already! I'm not convinced American can survive at all at this point. We are, by definition, bankrupt.

And the corporate owned Gub'mint let it happen....
 

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They can only get away with it if we keep giving them our $$$!!!

I bought some Starrett stuff recently. I called their customer service line with item numbers, "Where is this made?" "Where is that made?" "Ok, thank you, I'll only be buying the USA made items." And those items are really, really nice.

Likely meaningless, but it made me feel better. :bounce:
 

tdellenburg

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I bought some Starrett stuff recently. I called their customer service line with item numbers, "Where is this made?" "Where is that made?" "Ok, thank you, I'll only be buying the USA made items." And those items are really, really nice.

Likely meaningless, but it made me feel better. :bounce:

If that happens enough they'll have to listen. I WILL not buy any non American made tools. Period. Ever.

Even my socks are American made!
 

PeterT

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If that happens enough they'll have to listen. I WILL not buy any non American made tools. Period. Ever.

Even my socks are American made!

I wear wigwam, made in USA.. All my tools are made in USA. I keep an eye on country of origin and most everything I buy is made in USA or Canada.

I don't shop at walmart, outside of their groceries 90% of everything in that store is made in China. Some say its a global economy,, it isn't global when the trade deficit is 350 billion dollars every year.
I buy American tools because I like to think when I am swinging a wrench, I not only supporting a fellow American (the one that made it) and another American company with all of their corporate people, but if feels nice in my hand and I didn't have to go into HF and smell like chinese rubber for 3 days straight
 

ecotec

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I wish that things were that easy, case in point I enjoy writing tool stories and I also like doing stories for the GJ posts MADE IN THE USA.

This is my problem just when I think I find an all American company to write another story I hit a brick wall; see following example:

Conversation just this morning with the Malco Company "Hi, this is woody could you tell me are all your tools & products made in the USA?"

"Deb speaking yes some of are products are still made in the USA, but many others are made in other countries"...

End of story never to be used on the GJ, and it is only getting harder to find 100% made in the USA companies.

Woody:)

Earlier this week, I was at a tool store. I saw 2 pairs of Malco 2003's. one had made in USA molded into the grips, the other did not. They were both made in USA, though. It bothered me...
 

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i am getting really pissed off watching that you tube link.
i buy American. i will gladly spend whatever it takes to keep my neighbor employed.
i avoid anything chinese
 

tdellenburg

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i am getting really pissed off watching that you tube link.
i buy American. i will gladly spend whatever it takes to keep my neighbor employed.
i avoid anything chinese

If only more people thought as we do. That video really is an eye opener. I just hope the ones buying cheap Chinese junk lose their jobs before I do!!!
 
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zendriver

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"China stole our jobs", uh no, we gave them away...

Pretty much spot on, without spending 1:20 worth of a polished Martin Sheen conspiracy.

America had a huge garment industry in New England - until it moved to the cheap labor low cost South US. Then it moved to even cheaper China, India Vietnam, etc.

America once made cars in Detroit, left then to cheaper places like Canada, and on to Wisconsin, Indiana and Tennessee. Now it's even Cheaper Mexico. They would go to China but shipping is prohibitive.

The same with washing machines, toasters, TV's, electrical coils and most everything else.

Whether we like it or not, Businesses are in business to make money,not provide American jobs. Labor cost is the lions share of the cost of any manufacturing and is does not take a Wharton graduate to determine, that paying a Mexican auto worker $8/hr to build cars, verses $60/hr to an American, will have a profound effect on the company bottom line.

It's interesting that Americans love to "blame China", while letting our own greedy, controlling Corporations, completely off the hook.
 

T45

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"Businesses are in business to make money, not provide American jobs."

Purpose of a job is to make money...

they are one in the same, brother...
 

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"Businesses are in business to make money, not provide American jobs."

Purpose of a job is to make money...

they are one in the same, brother...

Then there is no problem, right? :rolleyes:

Please explain your point, on how they are the same, since it does not make sense to me.
 

turnthewrench

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Businesses are in business to make money.

Those who don't follow this rule, perish. And so do the jobs the've created, if any.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to make more money, that's what we're all in for. Now, bad politics is a different topic. If you require a "free" trade agreement to make business, it's because it isn't "free" after all. And that's what our politicians have been doing for the last 30 years or so -- exporting our jobs to cheap COMMUNIST countries to the detriment of American workers...those who elected them in the first place.

As hard as it sounds, don't blame it on the companies, but on the bad policies implemented by those in Washington who don't give a F$%$#.

And enjoy your Tekton tools :pimpflash
 

TorKe

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I'd buy more American if it weren't so expensive...

Point me to cheap American socket sets?
 

turnthewrench

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"Cheap" is as subjective as "Hot Wife"

Buy what you need at the price you can pay, but don't blame those who are trying to do the same... buying "cheap hot wives". Or, as we call 'em here... Harbor Freight.

How about this?
 

M6erfan

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"Businesses are in business to make money, not provide American jobs."

Purpose of a job is to make money...

they are one in the same, brother...

I sorta see your point but they're not one in the same. Businesses will automate and replace human jobs at any chance they get.

No one employee would do that and put their self out of a job...
 

1982fxr

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Those who don't follow this rule, perish. And so do the jobs the've created, if any.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to make more money, that's what we're all in for. Now, bad politics is a different topic. If you require a "free" trade agreement to make business, it's because it isn't "free" after all. And that's what our politicians have been doing for the last 30 years or so -- exporting our jobs to cheap COMMUNIST countries to the detriment of American workers...those who elected them in the first place.

As hard as it sounds, don't blame it on the companies, but on the bad policies implemented by those in Washington who don't give a F$%$#.

And enjoy your Tekton tools :pimpflash

Those trade deals originate on Wall Street, not some jerkoff politicians office.
 

American Locomotive

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I'd buy more American if it weren't so expensive...

Point me to cheap American socket sets?
Unfortunately with Craftsman off-shoring everything, the only option is S-K really for "affordable" American made sockets. S-K stuff is like 1/3-1/2 the cost of Snap-On tools, but it's still probably 2x more expensive than the older Craftsman USA stuff.

I'd gladly buy more US made stuff if it were actually affordable, but a lot of companies seem to charge a ridiculous premium for U.S. Made stuff, and I'm not sure if the cost they charge actually reflects the increased labor costs of making it here.

Snap-On charges $50 for a 10" 1/2" drive extension. I suspect the actual labor costs associated with producing that extension - including material costs are probably just a few dollars.
 
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TorKe

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"Cheap" is as subjective as "Hot Wife"

Buy what you need at the price you can pay, but don't blame those who are trying to do the same... buying "cheap hot wives". Or, as we call 'em here... Harbor Freight.

How about this?
Does it come with the socket holder ?
 

reader2580

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Whether we like it or not, Businesses are in business to make money,not provide American jobs. Labor cost is the lions share of the cost of any manufacturing and is does not take a Wharton graduate to determine, that paying a Mexican auto worker $8/hr to build cars, verses $60/hr to an American, will have a profound effect on the company bottom line.

If all jobs are off shored then pretty soon businesses will have no customers to buy the stuff they make.

American manufacturing is still huge, but the problem is automation has replaced a lot of the jobs and consumer stuff is mostly made overseas. Mining is big in northern Minnesota, but even there machines have replaced many of the workers.
 

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i know im just stirring the pot....

if i owned a business i want no employees if not just the cost of paying them its the insurance-workers comp and the lawsuits from peoples negligence getting them hurt accidental or intentional. i work at a small business and talk with the owner about his practices. he literally goes to church 6 days a week (funny usually not sundays) praying for no accidents. then there are the people that want that free ride to "get hurt" in search for a check. thats the real reason labor is the biggest cost for any business
 
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tdellenburg

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I love how everyone thinks that "theirs" is the only labor that has any value!

"I can't find cheap American sockets."

Uh, maybe because Americans won't work for $2 a day and live in a slave camp!

I'd love to bring my truck to you guys and have my transmission replaced for Chinese labor rate!!!
 

woody6904

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Just curious what the wage rates are in Taiwan compared to China? Everything gets compared back to China, but as its been shown most of the high quality import hand tools are coming out of Taiwan.

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nmantas

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Wright is doubling down on showing pride in being American made. Here is a video they released a few months ago:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bXo4yGqGPX8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
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Why doesn't the pool of geniuses here that know the answers to all the problems start a tool company? While they are at it start a puter company so we can piss and moan on an American made machine.
 

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I love how everyone thinks that "theirs" is the only labor that has any value!

"I can't find cheap American sockets."

Uh, maybe because Americans won't work for $2 a day and live in a slave camp!

I'd love to bring my truck to you guys and have my transmission replaced for Chinese labor rate!!!



When you find this Chinese labor rate transmission rebuild shop let me know. 207k miles on my 97 jimmy transmissions bound to go out in the next couple years


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