Walkers
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Straight off the battery. Worked great, because the long handle on the old 9.6 tools stored a fairly long cord.
Makita Addiction Thread
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If anyone is looking for an 18v chainsaw, my local Home Depot had three of these in the clearance rack for $150 each.
Price online shows $250, so check you'll have to check your store in-person to see if you can get the deal.
Makita LXT 14 in. 18V Lithium-Ion Brushless Electric Battery Chainsaw Kit (4.0 Ah) XCU11SM1 - The Home Depot
Makita - LXT LithiumIon Brushless Electric Cordless Chainsaw Kit - extend the life of your chainsaw with the use of this item.
www.homedepot.com
Price online shows $250, so check you'll have to check your store in-person to see if you can get the deal.
alinc100
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Just picked up 2, left 1 in Allen Park MI. You have to hunt for them. Store app/website doesn't show them in stock.If anyone is looking for an 18v chainsaw, my local Home Depot had three of these in the clearance rack for $150 each.
Makita LXT 14 in. 18V Lithium-Ion Brushless Electric Battery Chainsaw Kit (4.0 Ah) XCU11SM1 - The Home Depot
Makita - LXT LithiumIon Brushless Electric Cordless Chainsaw Kit - extend the life of your chainsaw with the use of this item.www.homedepot.com
Price online shows $250, so check you'll have to check your store in-person to see if you can get the deal.
engineer2
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Those should be good for pruning and light duty firewood cutting.
engineer2
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Got this for Christmas. 1/3 sheet 18V Makita sander. Looking forward to our next furniture refinishing project.
duneslider
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I have 2 full seasons with that mower and still love it. I would buy another in a heartbeat for sure. It is very heavy duty and a solid mower. I am not sure I have much to complain about. I will say that if the grass is really thick and tall is doesn't do a great job cutting and requires a couple of passes. My old gas mower would still do a nice cut when I let the grass get too long. These just don't seem to have quite enough rpm to get that nice cut in tall grass. I just run into this issue if I go on vacation and miss my cutting day and it goes too long without a mow. When this happens, I just know that I will have to give it two passes. I have a half acre lot and on a normal cut I can do the whole yard on one set (4) batteries. If it is longer then I need more but I have a lot of batteries, so its no problem for me. I also have the makita 18v trimmer and it works fine for yard use.Santa came early. Couldn't resist the deal.
Wife is happy about not having to set the choke and pull the starter rope anymore. I mow 90% of the time, but sometimes she feels like doing it.
Makita XML08PT1 18V X2 (36V) LXT Lithium‑Ion Brushless Cordless 21" Self Propelled Lawn Mower Kit with 4 Batteries (5.0Ah)
$575 from Amazon. Four 5.0 batteries worth $300+. A double charger I can sell for $50, and a $100 rebate from our village, and maybe get $25 for my old mower next spring.
duneslider
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That will probably eventually degrade the battery. You might consider keeping them in an insulated cooler if you are keeping them in the truck overnight in those temps. If you charge them up and put them into the cooler warm they should retain enough heat to be fine.
The biggest problem is charging frozen batteries, that for sure will ruin them. I am also not certain if makita has a circuit to prevent charging a frozen battery, I am pretty sure they do but haven't tried. I do know they will not charge if they are too hot so I am assuming that does mean they have the temp sensor for too cold too.
Lithium batteries will lose a lot of charge when frozen too. I wouldn't be concerned with batteries in a garage dropping down to mid-20F.
FTWingRiders
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That’s my go to pruner/ small tree saw, good battery life too. Love it!If anyone is looking for an 18v chainsaw, my local Home Depot had three of these in the clearance rack for $150 each.
Makita LXT 14 in. 18V Lithium-Ion Brushless Electric Battery Chainsaw Kit (4.0 Ah) XCU11SM1 - The Home Depot
Makita - LXT LithiumIon Brushless Electric Cordless Chainsaw Kit - extend the life of your chainsaw with the use of this item.www.homedepot.com
Price online shows $250, so check you'll have to check your store in-person to see if you can get the deal.
I have the 18” 36v and though it’s a nice for a bigger tree, it eats the batteries at a faster pace than I’d like. For anything too big of a job I grab my echo gas saw.
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Glad to hear you guys like your saws. I only have a few trees on my property and have been getting by just using a reciprocating saw whenever I need to cut up limbs. Spoiled by years of using chainsaws on the farm helping Dad process firewood, I'm acutely aware that while using a recip saw works, it is slow and cumbersome in comparison. This little saw should fill my needs perfectly.
ObnoxiousFumes
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the charger won't charge them when they're cold. But I also don't think I've tried it.
I did find the following info on recommended temps:
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duneslider
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That all seems consistent with my experience with lithium batteries. I really don't do much storage of batteries in really cold temps. The coldest I use my batteries are in the winter when we go cut down a christmas tree, that will be some hiking in the 15-25F temps and I notice zero issues with that. I have had a lot of experience with the batteries not charging when over temp, I get that a lot but don't have to deal with super low temps anymore.Yeah I'm pretty sure the charger won't charge them when they're cold. But I also don't think I've tried it.
I did find the following info on recommended temps:
Full PDF here:
jollygreengiant
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They won't charge if they are too cold. My batteries will sit on the charger for a while, with what I'm assuming is a slow trickle charge to warm them up, before the charger will kick on to it's normal speed.
engineer2
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I read online that the blade is not well sharpened. I checked my own and I agree. Before I use it, I plan to remove the blade and sharpen it. Even my Craftsman/Honda mower would struggle in tall grass, but it's 20 years old.
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ObnoxiousFumes
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Dang I need one! That's an absurdly good price.
Qualitytools
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Found this, but I am skeptical of the site. Anyone know of them or has purchased from them before? Too good to be true!
www.svahausaofficial.com
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
www.svahausaofficial.com
NORTON'S SHOP
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Found this, but I am skeptical of the site. Anyone know of them or has purchased from them before? Too good to be true!
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
You could be 457!
Found this, but I am skeptical of the site. Anyone know of them or has purchased from them before? Too good to be true!
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
14 in. 18-Volt X2 (36-Volt) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Battery Chain Saw Kit with Four 5.0 Ah Batteries and Charger XCU03PT1
Scammer.
Qualitytools
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TOTALY, Right!! And Extra Batteries, Yeah right
Thanks for the replies everyone.Makita continues to lose money in North America.
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Makita Announced Latest Financials (1/31/24)
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jollygreengiant
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When you put the numbers side by side like that it's really eye popping. They made a 8.7% profit margin overall yet had a -8.7% profit margin in north America. I hope they can turn things around.
What are DeWalt's and Milwaukee's numbers like?
What are DeWalt's and Milwaukee's numbers like?
engineer2
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Hopefully the new USA CEO can turn things around. I read on FB that Makita USA management is stuck in the early 1990's.
They certainly don't know how to market products in the USA. Hardly any deals on products or pricing knowledge. Displays at big box stores are paltry.
They are focused on the heavy construction market while the volume is in light construction, carpentry, automotive, electrical, plumbing, and DIY.
Good reputation though. Ever notice most of the HD rental tools are Makita? At least in our area.
Part of the problem is they are Japanese, while Americans want American brands like Milwaukee or DeWalt.
They certainly don't know how to market products in the USA. Hardly any deals on products or pricing knowledge. Displays at big box stores are paltry.
They are focused on the heavy construction market while the volume is in light construction, carpentry, automotive, electrical, plumbing, and DIY.
Good reputation though. Ever notice most of the HD rental tools are Makita? At least in our area.
Part of the problem is they are Japanese, while Americans want American brands like Milwaukee or DeWalt.
engineer2
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They are all China. Makita is a worldwide company with some items made in their global plants.
Consumers think Milwaukee (HQ in Milwaukee) and DeWalt (Maryland) are all Made in USA.
I've had some owners tell me they only buy American tools.
Consumers think Milwaukee (HQ in Milwaukee) and DeWalt (Maryland) are all Made in USA.
I've had some owners tell me they only buy American tools.
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Milwaukee is owned by China. Makita is Japanese owned. Dewalt is America owned, with the overwhelming majority of the profits and half of the capital investment in the US. Stanley employs over 15,000 Americans. The other two much less than a thousand. Manufacturing is global in all cases.
Dave455
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I think you are spot on.
Both Milwaukee and DeWalt are perceived (in the U.S.) as “American” so other makers have to struggle against that, even if that assumption is erroneous.
As a Brit, I’ve never really understood the attraction of DeWalt. All the products I’ve seen appear to be average Chinese, although no doubt one or two have specific advantages.
Milwaukee, although Chinese owned (and generally Chinese made) do seem to make an effort to innovate, and some of their products are worthwhile, but you are supporting China by buying them.
Here in the U.K. I see more Makita than DeWalt and Milwaukee combined. I’m sometimes puzzled when it’s stated that Makita is “all made in China”, as that isn’t my experience.
I wonder if Makita are getting it a bit wrong in the U.S. and supplying a lot of their cheaper tools, but missing out on the lucrative “mid ground”?
Snapped-off
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Picked up a new dual port charger on ebay for $45.
engineer2
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I heard Europe is Makita's biggest market. We were walking around Rome last summer and a couple of guys were installing shutters. They were using a Makita impact driver. I was going to compliment them, but I don't know Italian.
Makita sells all levels of tools at the home improvement stores, but it's an ever changing random mix. The main bricks-and-mortar retail store in the USA is Home Depot. Drill and impact driver kits are often homeowner grade, but the circular saw or chainsaw may be the top 36V model. They are starting to promote their XGT 40V line, but they are quite expensive. I think the 18V line will be around for many years to come.
Found another 6095 drill with battery. Paid $6. got home, and popped a known-to-be-good battery into it. Spun fine. So the internals are probably fine. battery looks NOS, and it took a charge. About the only problem is the drill chuck is screwed up, and someone stripped the screw out. Gonna have to cut the chuck off and remove the screw. I have another chuck I can put on. Clean it up inside and out (lots of pipe dope and paint globs) and then into storage, for use or parts if necessary. The battery alone is worth the price of purchase!
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How do you have a know good battery for that?
I put it on the charger and it went for an hour then ran the drill like new. Unfortunately popped it into the drill today and nothing. Put it in a drill I know to be good and still nothing. So it might be bad after all, but I'll run it thru my rejuvenator first and see if I can bring it back.
But the drill is cleaned up, re-greased and a new chuck put on it. Ready to go!
But the drill is cleaned up, re-greased and a new chuck put on it. Ready to go!
ObnoxiousFumes
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Excuse my ignorance, why exactly do you like those old models?
When I first stated installing HVAC, we would screw and caulk the two ducts to the units on the roof. All the other cordless drill brands had the "pod" style of battery at the base of the handle. And were too wide to get between the ducts to gain access to the screws. The Maikta's with the stick battery were narrow enough to get in there. Never had a problem with them being too weak, and battery life seemed really good. After 5-6 years they went to the NiMh style, and they just didn't seem to last in use. So I went back to corded drills.
About 5 years ago decided a cordless drill had a place, and the 9.6v Makita's are considered obsolete, so can be had for a song. Found a source for new batteries, and have discovered the 9.6v line had alot of different tools that I wasn't aware of originally. Really love the flashlights, and finally got a pair of angle drills. And they have an impact wrench. Might not be strong enough for lug nuts on cars, but it is so compact I'd find a way to use it.
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ObnoxiousFumes
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Thanks for the explanation @bonneyman! Are those also the ones that can be wired to run off of a car battery?
I've read where there are people who run the 9.6 volters off of a car battery. The DC motors are quite tough. But extended usage at that higher voltage will cause the motor to run hotter. Probably not good for long term. Makita did do a stick battery 12 volt line that would work fine I think.
I've got that modified 9.6 volter running off of an old car battery charger, and I finished doing the gutter on my house with it. The older chargers used selenium diodes, which were less efficient than todays silicon diodes. So, this old charger only puts out 11.3 volts. Freshly charged stick batteries put out 11.3 volts initially before dropping, so, I know the motor windings can take it. If I run into an overheated motor in that modded drill, I just give it a rest during the job to let it cool off. If it craps out I've got spare motors I can swap into it, and might cut some venting slots in the drill body around the motor to facilitate cooling.
I'd give it a shot. For $5-10 for a used drill what have you got to lose?
I've got that modified 9.6 volter running off of an old car battery charger, and I finished doing the gutter on my house with it. The older chargers used selenium diodes, which were less efficient than todays silicon diodes. So, this old charger only puts out 11.3 volts. Freshly charged stick batteries put out 11.3 volts initially before dropping, so, I know the motor windings can take it. If I run into an overheated motor in that modded drill, I just give it a rest during the job to let it cool off. If it craps out I've got spare motors I can swap into it, and might cut some venting slots in the drill body around the motor to facilitate cooling.
I'd give it a shot. For $5-10 for a used drill what have you got to lose?
OK gents, got my adaptor finished. Now I can run any 9.6 volt stick battery tool off of my old car battery charger. The measured output voltage is 10.8, so, I don't think I'll be taxing the drill motor much. Bought a 25' computer monitor cord off of Amazon, and attached an old stick battery case to the end.
Why you might ask? Well, if I have several Makita tools going, I can foresee a scenario where the battery chargers can't keep up with tool usage. Rather than sit around waiting for an hour while the sticks recharge, this way I can pop in the adaptor and keep working. And with a 25' cord I can park the car battery charger in the shade and have alot of reach to the work area. $11 for the cord and a few hours of cutting and soldering. Plus if the batteries ever do just die I don't have a bunch of 9.6v tools laying around idle.
No mods necessary to any tool, as I took an extra battery clip and modified it. One only has to remove one handle screw and swap the OEM clip for the mod clip. This was about the only way to use the adaptor without drilling or cutting on the tool. Figured a 2 minute clip swap was worth being able to keep zipping.
Why you might ask? Well, if I have several Makita tools going, I can foresee a scenario where the battery chargers can't keep up with tool usage. Rather than sit around waiting for an hour while the sticks recharge, this way I can pop in the adaptor and keep working. And with a 25' cord I can park the car battery charger in the shade and have alot of reach to the work area. $11 for the cord and a few hours of cutting and soldering. Plus if the batteries ever do just die I don't have a bunch of 9.6v tools laying around idle.
No mods necessary to any tool, as I took an extra battery clip and modified it. One only has to remove one handle screw and swap the OEM clip for the mod clip. This was about the only way to use the adaptor without drilling or cutting on the tool. Figured a 2 minute clip swap was worth being able to keep zipping.
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Squez
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Plus another sawzall 2 circular saws and 3 routers I didn’t feel like getting out..
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