drivesitfar
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Fretters: its going to look great. I hope you still have all the bits and pieces and remember how to put it back together. Best of luck 
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Not specifically old tool related, (although it is a rack for), but in the process of having yet another shift round in the workshop, and decided to try and make my hammer rack a bit less obtrusive. The old one was a floor to ceiling jobbie, so always occupied either some floor else wall space. This one I've strung between the wall and front leg of another bench/storage area I've made. Just a couple of pieces of 3"x1" planed, one screwed either side of a 1-3/4" riser, to provide the gap for the handles. Approx. 4' long.
The bed has been derusted/depainted. Popped a coat of linseed oil on the inside of the bed casting yesterday, and then waxed the outside today.
Took this photo just before I finished applying the wax. Left a little strip undone for the photo, which shows the difference more clearly between the bare and waxed cast.
Once it's had a day or two to cure somewhat, it'll be getting a quick buff.
Took this photo just before I finished applying the wax. Left a little strip undone for the photo, which shows the difference more clearly between the bare and waxed cast.
Once it's had a day or two to cure somewhat, it'll be getting a quick buff.
drivesitfar
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Fretters: nicely done. is that the wax mix you mentioned on the vise repair 101 thread or did you add and subtract a few things. i love when you post your old cast iron stuff naked or burgundy or even that green you do on a few things.
Aye, it's that same mix which I used on that vice and stand. No changes. I'm interested to see how it'll cope with the types of fluid machinery will be seeing. Oil, paraffin/kerosene, possibly some cutting fluid etc.
The remaining Brunswick Green is reserved for the 5". After that last faux pas with the batches being completely different tones, I'm not taking the risk of running out again before I complete that. Already had to restrip and repaint most of it due to that.
The remaining Brunswick Green is reserved for the 5". After that last faux pas with the batches being completely different tones, I'm not taking the risk of running out again before I complete that. Already had to restrip and repaint most of it due to that.
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Finally getting close to the point where I'll be starting to reassemble that lathe. Most of the main parts are cleaned, derusted, coated and ready.
Just need to finish the fun part first though, before any reassembly can start. These are currently in the vat.
Going through those and wirebrushing each one as I take it out will be a time consuming process, to put it mildly.
Just need to finish the fun part first though, before any reassembly can start. These are currently in the vat.
Going through those and wirebrushing each one as I take it out will be a time consuming process, to put it mildly.
Craptain
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Glad to see you back in your own thread.
I wondered if we would ever see the lathe done.
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: not many if any know how to show 100+ year old parts that look new in the box. WELL DONE SIR 
Also best of luck with the Fretter's manual you hopefully memorized or scribbled down so you can put that gem back together.
I agree with Craptain it's good to have you back.
Also best of luck with the Fretter's manual you hopefully memorized or scribbled down so you can put that gem back together.
I agree with Craptain it's good to have you back.
Cheers chaps. Aye, I have been a bit remiss with updates.
Some of it I've disassembled myself, but it was mostly dismantled when I got it. Something of a jigsaw puzzle for reassembly, this one. It's not too complex, however, so apart from just the odd little bit, it's fairly easy to figure where most bits go.
Aye, I have been a bit remiss with updates.Some of it I've disassembled myself, but it was mostly dismantled when I got it. Something of a jigsaw puzzle for reassembly, this one. It's not too complex, however, so apart from just the odd little bit, it's fairly easy to figure where most bits go.
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drivesitfar
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FRETTERS: I for one MISS U. any updates in your world to chat about? even a smoke signal to say you are alive and well and maybe a little wet will do.
cheers!!
cheers!!
Apologies for the late response to that post Dif; I'd not seen it 'til just now.
No progress on the lathe front recently, but have mounted the Baldor grinder on a stand so I can do some drill bit sharpening in comfort. It's a Heath Robinson affair, but does the job. Reappropriated that stand I made for painting on for it. No tool rests for it either, so excuse the replacements. I've grown quite fond of that wooden block now. It's just the right size for freehand sharpening.
Btw, yes, my shed is usually such a **** tip, floor wise.
No progress on the lathe front recently, but have mounted the Baldor grinder on a stand so I can do some drill bit sharpening in comfort. It's a Heath Robinson affair, but does the job. Reappropriated that stand I made for painting on for it. No tool rests for it either, so excuse the replacements.
I've grown quite fond of that wooden block now. It's just the right size for freehand sharpening.
Btw, yes, my shed is usually such a **** tip, floor wise.
drivesitfar
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Fretters: I just saw you posted on your thread again. i love the baldor stand and i know you won't burn down the place with the cool wood surround to keep some of the dust and debris inside it.
sure i know about FSD (flat surface disease) and that includes floors, shelves as well as benches and counters.
i just found a way to check my threads I'm interested in that you may already know about or maybe not. see the black bar with links and the first on that says USER CP? well i click on that and it shows me if anybody has been posting on threads i post on. i can't believe i have almost 4000 threads i've posted on, but i do like this place as you well know and i learn something everyday.
i do miss your posts so i know you are busy with work and teenagers, but if you get time to interject some wisdom or humor please do.
cheers
sure i know about FSD (flat surface disease) and that includes floors, shelves as well as benches and counters.
i just found a way to check my threads I'm interested in that you may already know about or maybe not. see the black bar with links and the first on that says USER CP? well i click on that and it shows me if anybody has been posting on threads i post on. i can't believe i have almost 4000 threads i've posted on, but i do like this place as you well know and i learn something everyday.
i do miss your posts so i know you are busy with work and teenagers, but if you get time to interject some wisdom or humor please do.
cheers
drivesitfar
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Fretters: i hear you on the FSD (flat surface disease) and Twertsy even admits to FSS (flat surface syndrome) that can't be cured, but i think he has more stuff than any 5 of us put together at the moment and he needs to start a museum.
speaking of cool stuff i looked closer at your grinder's tool rests and do tell what are they made of and how do they work?
you might want to post your little gem over on the vintage grinders thread if you haven't already.
keep up the good fight and just know that if you need to know anything if you can't find it on GJ just ask your teenagers cause you know teenagers KNOW EVERYTHING. don't they?
I have a thread called DRIVESITFAR'S finds and I picked up pair of lathe or old machine legs you might like to tell me what they came off of when i get time to post pictures. thanks in advance
Cheers Mate!!
speaking of cool stuff i looked closer at your grinder's tool rests and do tell what are they made of and how do they work?
you might want to post your little gem over on the vintage grinders thread if you haven't already.
keep up the good fight and just know that if you need to know anything if you can't find it on GJ just ask your teenagers cause you know teenagers KNOW EVERYTHING. don't they?
I have a thread called DRIVESITFAR'S finds and I picked up pair of lathe or old machine legs you might like to tell me what they came off of when i get time to post pictures. thanks in advance
Cheers Mate!!
The left toolrest is just a block of pine. The righthand one is a bellhousing from an old Van Dorn grinder with a piece of MDF on top. (That was going to be a restoration, but the base is shot and the wiring is dubious, so I've retasked one of its parts). Hammered a chunk of lead, (an old sash weight), into the end of that bellhousing to give something to bolt through.
The little copper dipping pot is a piece of 28mm tube with a 2p coin soldered in the bottom. Flared the top with the outer face of a Priory wad punch.
Regarding teenagers, don't they just. I banned the eldest from using the phrase: "I know". It's like I told him, if he knows, then why's he asking.
The little copper dipping pot is a piece of 28mm tube with a 2p coin soldered in the bottom. Flared the top with the outer face of a Priory wad punch.
Regarding teenagers, don't they just.
I banned the eldest from using the phrase: "I know". It's like I told him, if he knows, then why's he asking.
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: anything new going on in the SHED now that it's maybe stopped raining in your part of the world?
or has it?
yep we'll be empty nesters for the first time in our 30+ years together here so not sure we'll know what to do now that all the NO IT ALLS are not living with us.
i hope we survive.
or has it?
yep we'll be empty nesters for the first time in our 30+ years together here so not sure we'll know what to do now that all the NO IT ALLS are not living with us.
i hope we survive.
Thought I'd best update this thread. Changed jobs a couple of months ago, so finally getting more workshop time now. Bought another Drummond, (Myford produced. They took over production of these machines in WWII), a few months ago:
as an interim runner until I got one of the others up & running, but found someone had stuffed the bearings with grease rather than using oil, so it needed stripping & cleaning. So, thought sod it, I'll use it for parts to get the Admiralty machine up & running, so that one is currently a work in progress, again.
Changed jobs a couple of months ago, so finally getting more workshop time now. Bought another Drummond, (Myford produced. They took over production of these machines in WWII), a few months ago:
as an interim runner until I got one of the others up & running, but found someone had stuffed the bearings with grease rather than using oil, so it needed stripping & cleaning. So, thought sod it, I'll use it for parts to get the Admiralty machine up & running, so that one is currently a work in progress, again.
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The threads on the rear end of the mandrel were buggered due to the grub screws being tightened down without their brass slug being inplace:
so after a few failed attempts at finding a needle file with a fine enough edge to sort them, I ended up resorting to the thread file, (or rasp, as I prefer to term them).
so after a few failed attempts at finding a needle file with a fine enough edge to sort them, I ended up resorting to the thread file, (or rasp, as I prefer to term them
).
Had to file down one of the bearing wedges to fit the rear bearing. What a tedious job that was. Due to the size and shape, very little could be done with it held in a vice, so my fingertips did most of the holding. Left one is the one I had to reshape.
This is the purpose of the wedge. It's used to spread the bearing to lock it into the housing. The oiler bolt screws down into it.
Bearings inplace on the headstock. The castellated nuts look shiny because I had to file & Brasso them to get them looking presentable. Apes with Mole grips have no regard for cosmetic considerations.
Also had a session the other week cleaning & derusting all of the Drummond changewheels. Over 60 in total, so that took some time. Here's some of them.
Left one is the one I had to reshape.
This is the purpose of the wedge. It's used to spread the bearing to lock it into the housing. The oiler bolt screws down into it.
Bearings inplace on the headstock. The castellated nuts look shiny because I had to file & Brasso them to get them looking presentable. Apes with Mole grips have no regard for cosmetic considerations.
Also had a session the other week cleaning & derusting all of the Drummond changewheels. Over 60 in total, so that took some time.
Here's some of them.
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Craptain
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Nice to see you still alive. I have been wondering where you were and I guess working is the answer.
I have been dealing with hardened grease in my lathe too. The change wheels were caked in it to the point that they couldn't be correctly adjusted, resulting in a stripped gear. I think it might have been crashed as well.
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I have been dealing with hardened grease in my lathe too. The change wheels were caked in it to the point that they couldn't be correctly adjusted, resulting in a stripped gear. I think it might have been crashed as well.
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: nice to see you posting on your thread and showing us some of the ways a guy can use hand tools and fix things.
One of these days i'll find a lathe that is decent quality and not priced to the moon and buy it hopefully with some extra tooling, but until then i'll keep watching and learning how to fix/repair and use on here on GJ.
WOW that Parkinson swivel jaw is AWESOME. i know it's maybe too big for your small shop, but it looks amazing on that cool stand you found. is it a quick release and did you use the linseed oil, turpentine, beeswax and japan dryer mix for the finish or do tell?
cheers
PS after my last post on here i thought i scared you away since i've finally got my 5 kids off and living at their own places and you having teenagers. well my daughter had an injury and needed to move back in for 4 months or so and she finally moved back in with her husband a few weeks ago so we'll try this empty nest thing again. sure is quiet around here and something for you to look forward too!
One of these days i'll find a lathe that is decent quality and not priced to the moon and buy it hopefully with some extra tooling, but until then i'll keep watching and learning how to fix/repair and use on here on GJ.
WOW that Parkinson swivel jaw is AWESOME. i know it's maybe too big for your small shop, but it looks amazing on that cool stand you found. is it a quick release and did you use the linseed oil, turpentine, beeswax and japan dryer mix for the finish or do tell?
cheers
PS after my last post on here i thought i scared you away since i've finally got my 5 kids off and living at their own places and you having teenagers. well my daughter had an injury and needed to move back in for 4 months or so and she finally moved back in with her husband a few weeks ago so we'll try this empty nest thing again. sure is quiet around here and something for you to look forward too!
No Japan driers in my mix DIF, but yes, that's the mix which both the lathe & the vice are finished with. It is quick release.
Aye, it was just work which was interfering with my shed & forum time. Was working away a lot, silly hours etc., so personal time was almost nonexistent. Dropped on this job which just has me working a few hours a day locally, so much better now, plus the new job is stress free. The previous job was a pain in the ****, for multiple reasons. Money ain't everything, when all's said & done.
Aye, it was just work which was interfering with my shed & forum time. Was working away a lot, silly hours etc., so personal time was almost nonexistent. Dropped on this job which just has me working a few hours a day locally, so much better now, plus the new job is stress free. The previous job was a pain in the ****, for multiple reasons. Money ain't everything, when all's said & done.
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: yep QUALITY OF LIFE is definitely worth a lot so happy to hear you maybe found a good solution. 
will that Parkinson and it's stand maybe fit in a suitcase if i stop in for a visit and it WOULD give you a little more shop space?
will that Parkinson and it's stand maybe fit in a suitcase if i stop in for a visit and it WOULD give you a little more shop space?
Old grease can turn a simple job into one that's a pain, can't it.
Fretters: yep QUALITY OF LIFE is definitely worth a lot so happy to hear you maybe found a good solution.
will that Parkinson and it's stand maybe fit in a suitcase if i stop in for a visit and it WOULD give you a little more shop space?
You wish.
It might fit, but the weight would screw your baggage allowance. Definitely an improvement, job wise. Never thought I'd hear myself say this, but now I'm working surrounded by women rather than working with blokes, there's far less bitching, whining & pettiness to contend with.
drivesitfar
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Fretters: so i guess i'll have to bring 3 suitcases?
sounds like those gals MULTY TASK instead of find ways to NOT DO SOMETHING .
not sure exactly what your day job is, but if you are as good at it as you are with the stuff you spiff up and fix in your shop your employer must be a happy camper to have you.
nice job spiffing up that Parkinson!!
how many Record vices with quick releases have you taken apart. do you have any pictures or methods to share cause as you say with the end of the dynamic being enclosed it looks like i'll have to take out the vise nut to get it out and then I bet the spring and pin is a PITA to get out?
cheers
sounds like those gals MULTY TASK instead of find ways to NOT DO SOMETHING .
not sure exactly what your day job is, but if you are as good at it as you are with the stuff you spiff up and fix in your shop your employer must be a happy camper to have you.
nice job spiffing up that Parkinson!!
how many Record vices with quick releases have you taken apart. do you have any pictures or methods to share cause as you say with the end of the dynamic being enclosed it looks like i'll have to take out the vise nut to get it out and then I bet the spring and pin is a PITA to get out?
cheers
Record's are ones which I rarely touch, but heard the standard, larger mechanics vices have enclosed slides from others.
Job wise, I'm a caretaker/handyman now. Suits me down to the ground. Good hours & stress free, plus practically just a stone's throw from home, so couldn't ask for more. In my last job, the hassle I had to deal with & sort just wasn't worth the money. I think Gert preferred it when I was working long hours & away though.
Job wise, I'm a caretaker/handyman now. Suits me down to the ground.
Good hours & stress free, plus practically just a stone's throw from home, so couldn't ask for more. In my last job, the hassle I had to deal with & sort just wasn't worth the money. I think Gert preferred it when I was working long hours & away though. Craptain
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Job wise, I'm a caretaker/handyman now. Suits me down to the ground.
Keep Gert happy and spend more time in the shed. [emoji106]
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drivesitfar
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Fretters: remind me (us) who Gert is? i'm assuming your bride?
your new job sounds a LOT BETTER cause as you say money isn't everything and you'd probably live longer and make up the difference in a good attitude and come across better deals cause you'd feel like searching again. sometimes life can really drag you down so keep doing the best you can to avoid feeling that way.
take care
your new job sounds a LOT BETTER cause as you say money isn't everything and you'd probably live longer and make up the difference in a good attitude and come across better deals cause you'd feel like searching again. sometimes life can really drag you down so keep doing the best you can to avoid feeling that way.
take care
drivesitfar
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Fretters: that clears that up. no way i'm calling my bride my SWMBO or whatever some of the older guys call there's cause i'm sure i'd have to sleep in the car if i did. she's only 5'9 and 140 pounds and i ain't messing with her or would I cause she's like a BOBCAT, but she has BENEFITS to be sure.
carry on big guy and show us some more TOOL **** when you are able to get some time to post up more.
cheers
carry on big guy and show us some more TOOL **** when you are able to get some time to post up more.
cheers
drivesitfar
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Fretters: sorry you had to take it apart and put it back together cause you forgot to put in a part, but it looks awful PURDY now.
i try not to razz, irritate or bother my bride much cause she makes most of my meals. there are those other benefits that we won't talk about that she seems to want almost more than i do these days.
cheers and keep up the good tool **** pictures!!
i try not to razz, irritate or bother my bride much cause she makes most of my meals. there are those other benefits that we won't talk about that she seems to want almost more than i do these days.
cheers and keep up the good tool **** pictures!!
Didn't forget to put one in. It was just a case of what was on there originally, in the pile of bits, wasn't enough to give clearance from the bronze nut. Had to add an extra spacer in there to provide clearance.
Workshop is currently looking like a bomb site, as I'm rearranging, trying to make space for a bench for it.
It was just a case of what was on there originally, in the pile of bits, wasn't enough to give clearance from the bronze nut. Had to add an extra spacer in there to provide clearance.Workshop is currently looking like a bomb site, as I'm rearranging, trying to make space for a bench for it.
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drivesitfar
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Matt: i'm hoping to see you get a little (or a lot) more time in the shed in 2018 cause always love your projects and of course your posts almost always make me smile too.
cheers
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
cheers
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!