nmk_61802
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Unfortunately even if it goes off without any issues this time, Dannmar will still have a lot of frustrated/ unhappy people that could have been potential customers.
MaxJax Group Buy Announcement
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Clearly, they are not worried about that. This reminds me of when home builders would require people to enter lotteries for the "honor" of being able to pick a homesite. It's their product and they can do what they want with it and make customers jump through whatever hoops customers are willing to jump through. It's not customer friendly and the market will sort it out. You don't know what customers you've lost when the phone doesn't ring.
nmk_61802
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Unfortunatly they alread offered it so it is a moot point. But if they decided to no longer offer the deal, some would still buy, some wouldn't, all would be upset.
I am not saying that I do not appreciate what they are doing, but limiting it to twenty people is the wrong thing to do in my and many other peoples opinion. They have already offered an unlimited group buy to another forum (linked earlier) and while not as good as a discount, I think many would be appeased if they knew they could purchase at that discount if they did not become one of the twenty.
Of coarse this is just my opinon, but I bet you will find a lot who agree with me.
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yeah, I suppose the thing with the other car forum does throw a wrench in there in some respect.
It's touchy, but I remember JSK posting first posting the announcement more than like 3-4 months ago... wonder if he knew it would turn out like this?
It's touchy, but I remember JSK posting first posting the announcement more than like 3-4 months ago... wonder if he knew it would turn out like this?
Shocker
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Moot point....
The point has to be able to talk to be made.
The point has to be able to talk to be made.
Same thing that is going to happen anyway.. there are a LOT of people that are only going to buy if it is at the GB price. So if they canceled the GB they would lose a lot of sales, but if it does happen and they limit it to only 20 they STILL lose a lot of sales.
Here is the discussion I was having with a friend yesterday about the price point.
Lifts in general are similer to heavy equipment- the companys that build them charge a hefty mark-up on them when the sell them...but in a commercial setting whether that is a construction site or a auto-shop there is an oppertunity for the buyer of said product to charge his customers (usually via an hourly rate) to pass down the expense of purchasing the equipment.
This lift on the other hand is directly marketed as a home garage lift. Since there are no customers, no monies to be made back the price has to justify the return.
Do you know why the vast majority of car guys do not have a lift at their house? It is NOT because of ceiling height..it is because of price!! It is hard enough to rationalize $1500 when you can make do with a jack and jackstands to change oil, rotate tires, fix brakes, change shocks, etc.
They obviously do not understand this. If they want home garage lifts to become commonplace they need a low price point that the average Joe (and his wife) can live with.
The problem I see there is that if they sell the lift @ $1500 all the time, a lot of smaller shops will buy them and then the company is not making the big $$$ of the other full size lifts. Solution? Offer ZERO warranty or support on this lift when used in a comercial setting. Be very clear about that upfront that this is a home lift. Most shops will pay the extra for a 'normal' lift to get warranty and support if needed.
nmk_61802
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Moot point....
The point has to be able to talk to be made.
I never have been accused of being good at spelling. That is why I keep a dictonary close at work.
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Please view update to Garage Journal Group Buy http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30425
txz28
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Too bad they had to limit it to so few people. I cannot say that they won my future business since I will probably be looking in about a year.
Any update on the power station. I tried ordering one, but I was told when I ordered that they did not know anything about the power station or it's availabilty.
Are you actually coming out with the power station?
http://www.maxjaxusa.com/maxjax-lifting-system/maxjax-features.html
-Scott
Scott-
I spoke with Gabe last week about the Power Station and he said they're about 4 months away from going to market with it. Gabe related that development of the Power Station was delayed by the fine tuning they were busy doing on the MaxJax itself. They will let us know as soon as it's available.
I spoke with Gabe last week about the Power Station and he said they're about 4 months away from going to market with it. Gabe related that development of the Power Station was delayed by the fine tuning they were busy doing on the MaxJax itself. They will let us know as soon as it's available.
Junkman
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I would believe that you could upgrade to the power station if you were buying a new unit, but I don't see how you could trade in the "used" unit for a new power station. What would they do with the used units that were returned? I know that I wouldn't want to buy a new lift and get a used power unit with it. If you want the power station, then I would just hold off on the purchase till it becomes available.
Looking at the photos my take is that it will be a kit/mount you transfer your existing pump to... can't be more complicated than that...
I too agree, I doubt they will take your existing setup in trade, makes no sense.
This:
vs this:
I too agree, I doubt they will take your existing setup in trade, makes no sense.
This:
vs this:
A friend of mine has installed several lifts and he's concerned about the style of anchor. He Say's this "bolt type" can spin in the drilled hole and will not be strong enough. If the threaded insert is used that has a nut on top of the post base, it will not spin.
So, I'm now concerned on which type to use. He's also concerned that there is no connecting bar support between the two posts, either on the floor or at the top, to keep the posts from folding in. He suggests that only my 2.400 lb. 427 Cobra be used on the lift and not,.... my Dakota truck or our
Chrysler 300M.
I know the company has tested this lift very well, with what type of anchor is used and not having a supporting bar between the posts.
Please advise me if he and I, are worrying too much about the anchors that are supplied and, having no support bar ?
Thank you,
Kevin
So, I'm now concerned on which type to use. He's also concerned that there is no connecting bar support between the two posts, either on the floor or at the top, to keep the posts from folding in. He suggests that only my 2.400 lb. 427 Cobra be used on the lift and not,.... my Dakota truck or our
Chrysler 300M.
I know the company has tested this lift very well, with what type of anchor is used and not having a supporting bar between the posts.
Please advise me if he and I, are worrying too much about the anchors that are supplied and, having no support bar ?
Thank you,
Kevin
A lot of your concerns have been discussed throughout this thread and many others... In fact, I think you were part of those discussions...
Weren't you the one who tried to start a group buy on here for the MaxJax?
Mezzanine
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I would suggest you ignore everything that friend says. Sounds like armchair engineer to me. If Maxjax sells me a lift that comes with fasteners, and I install it per their instructions, then I am confident that it will perform inside of the design parameters. If your car fits the weight limits, then lift 'er on up. Stop worrying. Be happy.
I suggest, for peace of mind, to get some epoxy made for concrete, and pour some of that inside the hole before you push the anchor in.... if the concrete chips also pour a little on top (grease the threads on the bolt and screw it in so you don't get epoxy in the threads)...
Never hurts to over do it when it comes to safety...
Never hurts to over do it when it comes to safety...
cw_racefan
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Yep, Jeff from Bend-Pak and I were talking about just that. For piece of mind, get some Simpson concrete anchor epoxy. Not cheap (about $15/tube), but made specifically for concrete anchors. As Wachuko said, grease the threads to keep them clean, and fill the whole only 1/4-1/3 or you'll just have a mess on the surface. I'll be doing that with mine tomorrow when I install the anchors. Not really worried, but just another bit of safety margin.
Gabriel J
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It states in the installation instructions that if 100 lb.ft of torque can't be achieved (meaning the anchors come out or spin) to replace the concrete. If they spin in the new concrete I have poured in the garage, then I might give a second thought to their instructions.
-Gabe
-Gabe
CW- Are these the products you mentioned ?
How much would be needed for all the holes ? (ebay's below are the small & large size)
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=65442-72913-ET22&lpage=none
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=168205-72913-SET22&lpage=none
http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPSON-STRONG-...-ADHESIVE_W0QQitemZ360141024797QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Simpson-Strong-...emQQimsxZ20090317?IMSfp=TL0903172010002r36710
How much would be needed for all the holes ? (ebay's below are the small & large size)
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=65442-72913-ET22&lpage=none
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=168205-72913-SET22&lpage=none
http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPSON-STRONG-...-ADHESIVE_W0QQitemZ360141024797QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Simpson-Strong-...emQQimsxZ20090317?IMSfp=TL0903172010002r36710
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cw_racefan
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I got the Simpson Fast-Pac. I think both the big box stores carry it.
Slide blocks don't match up to use the safety bars ?
I do have one problem. When I raised the lift to the top, and went to lower the arms on the safety bar, one off the holes was covered half way. I think the factory assembled one of the slide blocks 180 degrees off where it should be. :headscarf
I'll have to take out the very heavy piece and turn the block to match the other side. I'll defiantly need another strong man to help me or, take out all five anchor bolts, lay the column down, remove the block, turn it, then
reassemble.
Any of you have this problem ?
(I forgot to mention, the anchors and epoxy worked out great) !
I do have one problem. When I raised the lift to the top, and went to lower the arms on the safety bar, one off the holes was covered half way. I think the factory assembled one of the slide blocks 180 degrees off where it should be. :headscarf
I'll have to take out the very heavy piece and turn the block to match the other side. I'll defiantly need another strong man to help me or, take out all five anchor bolts, lay the column down, remove the block, turn it, then
reassemble.
Any of you have this problem ?
(I forgot to mention, the anchors and epoxy worked out great) !
amishman
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Curious if Danmar is offering any reduced prices to folks that did not get to take part in the 2nd Group Buy date since the original one went so crazy and they could not get a 2nd day off to try buying one again.
I am wanting to buy one and was just curious. Or, does everyone now pay full $2K price no mater what.
tj
I am wanting to buy one and was just curious. Or, does everyone now pay full $2K price no mater what.
tj
bazar01
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Re: Slide blocks don't match up to use the safety bars ?
I had the same problem.
The sliding block was 180 deg off.
Lay the column on it's back with the wheels on the floor.
Prop the open end of the column with a piece of wood to level the column.
Move the sliding assembly towards the top end until you can pull out the hydraulic cylinder.
Once the hyd cylinder is out, pull the sliding block assembly out slowly on the open end of column.
Turn the block around and slide the assembly back in.
Install the hydraulic cylinder back in. Slide the assembly up to the base plate.
It's heavy because of the hyd cylinder, but once it's out, it's easy to move the block.
I had the same problem.
The sliding block was 180 deg off.
Lay the column on it's back with the wheels on the floor.
Prop the open end of the column with a piece of wood to level the column.
Move the sliding assembly towards the top end until you can pull out the hydraulic cylinder.
Once the hyd cylinder is out, pull the sliding block assembly out slowly on the open end of column.
Turn the block around and slide the assembly back in.
Install the hydraulic cylinder back in. Slide the assembly up to the base plate.
It's heavy because of the hyd cylinder, but once it's out, it's easy to move the block.
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amishman
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I maybe buying one soon. Just have to see if I can get a little off the price is all. I may opt to have mind pro installed. I don't have the drill nor bits to tackle the job. Figure those tools alone for decent ones would be $100 to $200?? Anyway, was referred by Danmar to a local installer and for $450, they would allow the lift to be shipped to their location, they will bring it up to my home, and install it, and make sure all works. Sounds like a fair deal to me.
I don't like dealing with heavy *** stuff and drilling into concrete. grin. Just not my thing.
tj
I don't like dealing with heavy *** stuff and drilling into concrete. grin. Just not my thing.
tj
Nick-NY
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I missed the group buy as well, I want one but am not willing to pay full price considering how much was saved during the GB. Anyone know if they are going to do another GB? I noticed that Costco sells the 4 post lift by Danmar but the dimensions wont work in my garage. I want a MaxxJax really badly.
I'll see if, I can do anything guys.
tj- it is pretty simple but, if you don't feel comfortable, don't do it yourself. I bought a hammer drill and two bits cheaper than renting them.
Harbor Freight for less than $80.
You have to be precise with your measurements, drilling and handling heavy weight. Check with this installer if they will give you a install guarantee, if they won't, find someone else. You will love the lift !
Kevin
tj- it is pretty simple but, if you don't feel comfortable, don't do it yourself. I bought a hammer drill and two bits cheaper than renting them.
Harbor Freight for less than $80.
You have to be precise with your measurements, drilling and handling heavy weight. Check with this installer if they will give you a install guarantee, if they won't, find someone else. You will love the lift !
Kevin
I was out of work during the first group buy, so couldn't justify the expense even with the discounted price. But now that I'm working for a company that's actually growing in this economy, I can convince the wife of the "necessity" to have this tool!
I'd definitely be in for another opportunity.
Thanks,
LWW
I'd definitely be in for another opportunity.
Thanks,
LWW
I will talk with my salesman on Monday. I'm not promising but, if you three (+)
are interested, maybe,........ they'll work a deal.
If anyone else want's to be included, let me know and I'll put you on this list.
1-amishman
2-Nick-NY
3-LWM
4-rbahr
5-Matt
6-D + 10 (club cobra)
Thanks,
Kevin
are interested, maybe,........ they'll work a deal.
If anyone else want's to be included, let me know and I'll put you on this list.
1-amishman
2-Nick-NY
3-LWM
4-rbahr
5-Matt
6-D + 10 (club cobra)
Thanks,
Kevin
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rbahr
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Hi FUNFER2,
Add me to your list please
Thanks
Ray
Add me to your list please
Thanks
Ray
Junkman
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If any of you fellows saw my display of the MaxJax at the Carlisle PA swap meet, you still qualify for the $1995 special that includes free shipping to the lower 48 states. Just talk to Gabe when you call. This deal is good till the last day of May. I believe that is as good as it is going to get, since they are already selling out as fast as they get them back into stock. Junk
I believe that is as good as it is going to get, since they are already selling out as fast as they get them back into stock. Junk