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They are great for siding, but you don't walk on siding and water doesn't sit on siding. Cedar lap makes great siding too, but wouldn't last as decking.


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They are great for siding, but you don't walk on siding and water doesn't sit on siding. Cedar lap makes great siding too, but wouldn't last as decking.


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Yeah, probably why they make a thicker composite to cover up existing decks with. I may look into that sometime. I either need to replace about 10 boards on mine with ends getting bad or else cover it all up with something. I did not want to be an early adopter for composite decking, but now that that is a mature product and the prices have all come down on them, not a bad choice for top of deck. I've learned too to use CopperCoat or similar to cover all end cuts of outdoor wood boards that are cut as the preservative in pressure treating doesn't go deep and otherwise would not be there with cuts. My end boards are all having the issues first as this was not done when the deck was put in long ago. Mainly apprearance for now. Anyone out there recommend a product for covering up existing deck boards in composite? Pros/Cons of it? - Paul
 

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I was just at menards yesterday and they had a 72" tool box for sale for $599 I believe. I can't remember the name on it but it wasn't masterforce and I can't find it online. Does anyone know what this box was by chance or have any experience with it?
 

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I was just at menards yesterday and they had a 72" tool box for sale for $599 I believe. I can't remember the name on it but it wasn't masterforce and I can't find it online. Does anyone know what this box was by chance or have any experience with it?

Stainless Montezuma? The one they had on "Black Friday" for $499.
 

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Yup that's the one thanks! They still have one near me. Is it worth 500 or are they junk?
 

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You also don't get any wider of a drawer compared to the typical 26" craftsman with that BF Montezuma from what I recall. It looked like two 26" tool chests with a door between them. If I'm going to buy a 72" chest, its going to give me longer drawers than the usual 26" chest. I wish Menards had their MF 72" chests on sale more often.
 

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Anybody have any experience owning/using this box? When I checked it out at the store it felt rock solid and the drawers seemed to work great for not having any weight in them at least. The price seems unreal and I could really use a box like this so I might jump on it unless I hear some horror stories. Thanks.
 

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Anybody have any experience owning/using this box? When I checked it out at the store it felt rock solid and the drawers seemed to work great for not having any weight in them at least. The price seems unreal and I could really use a box like this so I might jump on it unless I hear some horror stories. Thanks.

If you want a much better box for about $400 more, wait until they have a sale on the Masterforce 72" box. It goes on sale for $999 a couple of times a year. I'm really glad I got one of those and not a Montezuma or a HF box. Thick steel, better drawer locking system than HF's (griplatch vs detents), nice and deep. Also comes in a few different colors and not that ugly HF orange.

Not sure how much that Montezuma weighs, since they don't list it on their website, but the Masterforce 72" is 586 lbs according to the site. I don't like that the Montezuma doesn't have longer drawers though, I really like the big top drawer on the Masterforce 72" for my socket sets. The real test is when you start loading drawers up with weight, I must have over 150 pounds in my top drawer with my sockets, and it's still smooth.

The Masterforce also comes with a lifetime warranty vs a 5 year warranty on the Montezuma. Reports that I've seen have been pretty good about the warranty service on the Masterforce chests.
 
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Yup that's the one thanks! They still have one near me. Is it worth 500 or are they junk?

My brother has one. They are fine for the money. They seem a little light duty. If you want to load it up really heavy or use it daily best to keep looking. If it's for a home garage that isn't going to get a lot of abuse I'd say it's fine. The metal seems a lighter gauge than the better ones but it is half the price.
 

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My brother has one. They are fine for the money. They seem a little light duty. If you want to load it up really heavy or use it daily best to keep looking. If it's for a home garage that isn't going to get a lot of abuse I'd say it's fine. The metal seems a lighter gauge than the better ones but it is half the price.

Thanks for the reply, this is the kind of info I'm looking for. :beer:
 

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They have most of the metal electrical boxes on sale. Any where from 30 to 60 percent off. This includes face plates ect. I picked up 15 deep 4" square boxes for 99 cents each. Regular price is 2.06.
 

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Thanks for the reply, this is the kind of info I'm looking for. :beer:

There's more info about the company that makes these boxes in this thread:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320560

I've seen this box at menards a few times, and I've always been tempted when I see it at 499, but the drawer size kills me. If it had the drawers and wood top from the thread I linked, I would have probably got it.
 

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Anyone out there recommend a product for covering up existing deck boards in composite? Pros/Cons of it? - Paul

Not composite but I used this stuff last year and it has held up perfectly for about 9 months now. It filled in the crack in our wood and makes the deck look like composite. It was easy to put on and was not that expensive. Some places I had to slop it on pretty thick to fill wider cracks. The wide cracks added some extra work. I would highly recommend this for cracked or splintering wood. I would not use it on anything that has rot as I doubt it would adhere. (I did buy it at Menard's)
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http://www.cabotstain.com/products/product/Deck-Correct.html
 
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Thanks Joe, I know all about Epoxy and its uses. I started out on GJ doing my own basement wood shop epoxy floor project myself, including hand diamond wheel grinding with my angle grinder myself too! I would be more interested in covering over the top of the existing deck with composite lumber, rather than an epoxy covering, mainly because mine isn't good enough to look good with just an epoxy covering, but is sound enough to just cover over with new. I know they make such stuff but haven't researched it at all yet. I like to start with other's recommendations then research it all myself from there. - Paul
 

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Thanks Joe, I know all about Epoxy and its uses. I started out on GJ doing my own basement wood shop epoxy floor project myself, including hand diamond wheel grinding with my angle grinder myself too! I would be more interested in covering over the top of the existing deck with composite lumber, rather than an epoxy covering, mainly because mine isn't good enough to look good with just an epoxy covering, but is sound enough to just cover over with new. I know they make such stuff but haven't researched it at all yet. I like to start with other's recommendations then research it all myself from there. - Paul

http://www.menards.com/main/decking/quickcap-composite-deck-resurfacing/p-1444448140199.htm

I would never use the coatings. Have some family that did it and it peeled right off. I would highly recommend just replacing the boards with full composite boards.
 
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Thanks Ishi, yes, that's the stuff I was thinking of. Has anyone used this or similar? Re-doing the whole deck top in composite is an option, but cost and time are factors. - Paul

The problem with decking is once the underlying boards start to go bad, they have started to go bad. So overlaying it with anything is typically a temporary fix to sell your house, but not really a good solution.

The quick cap I posted yesterday is now $1.60 off on sale, if you are interested in that route.
 
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The problem with decking is once the underlying boards start to go bad, they have started to go bad. So overlaying it with anything is typically a temporary fix to sell your house, but not really a good solution.

The quick cap I posted yesterday is now $1.60 off on sale, if you are interested in that route.

Yeah, the quick cap type is really about as expensive as just doing it proper. Ought to be 1/2 the cost as 1/2 as thick. Doesn't make sense to do it then. - Paul
 

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There is a new Days sale ad out. Those Masterforce wrench rolls I like are Two for $8, about as cheap as they go, around $4 each. China COO. - Paul


Post some pics if you get a chance.....I have 4 I have yet to put to good use.

I would like to see what combo of tools you are using.

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Post some pics if you get a chance.....I have 4 I have yet to put to good use.

I would like to see what combo of tools you are using.

Thanks,
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Well, these are rather simple 77, you just put your wrench set in them! I don' t do alot of pics as I'm pretty busy. But I have some Craftsman US wrenches, some SK wrenches, and some odds and ends of mismatched sets of vintage stuff. I've decided to move away from any wrench rack as I just don't like them and use rolls. Easy to bring out the roll to the job, pull out just what you need, and slide them back in place when done. - Paul
 

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Masterforce 72" Tool Boxes $999.....and since I do not mind taking pics ....[emoji6]

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Get them while they are Hot


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Masterforce 72" Tool Boxes $999.....and since I do not mind taking pics ....[emoji6]

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Get them while they are Hot


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Ahhhh...wished one was near me. Mite have to time my vacation to see my sister in Ohio and haul one back with me. She has one like 30m away.
 

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Ahhhh...wished one was near me. Mite have to time my vacation to see my sister in Ohio and haul one back with me. She has one like 30m away.


All Masterforce will be on sale the next 2 weeks.....it may take up to 6 weeks for delivery at the store.....start planning your trip now.

Might have to wait till November 2016 for the $999 price on the 72" again.

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Yes.....set your store at Marshell MN

And you will get the ad on Friday at 12 am

Check it every week......I thought that was Paul's job .....[emoji9][emoji9][emoji9][emoji9][emoji9][emoji9][emoji9]


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I need your help......lets get a 72" Masterforce for every Man, Women and Child in the USA... Lol


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I would LOVE to get one of those, but the closest one to California is in...Wyoming? Add on the $331 shipping and I might as well get something from stricktlytoolboxes.

The only logical budget option is US General or hope to get lucky on craigslist, I suppose
 
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That's why you need to live in a "Real" state.....is CA still in the union.

I thought Bush sold CA to China? Lol


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