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that has been running all week and ends today? :headscrat

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Hello Menards Fans,

Delta Cruzer 12" miter saw $499, $50 mail in, plus 11%.
I got one. Feels comparable in quality to the dewalt and Bosch, utilizes a hinge system and feels 5-10 times smoother and more rugged than the Hitachi. Glad I held out and saw this. Lowes has it for $650

Bostitch 205 piece tool set: $58 minus 11%. I passed.
1/2 drive goes up to 3/4 and 20mm which kills the idea of this being a car toolbox. Also no deep 1/2 19mm. cmon bostitch.... otherwise seems a great value if you lack tools generally, or a gift idea.

Weird one: 5/8 roller bearings were 0.59 cents, buy one get one free minus 11%. Harbor Freight sells these for a dollar a piece.

Other notables: Stanley battery maintainer ~11$
2 pack Stanley Sortmaster $9.99
 

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Delta Cruzer 12" miter saw $499, $50 mail in, plus 11%.
I got one. Feels comparable in quality to the dewalt and Bosch, utilizes a hinge system and feels 5-10 times smoother and more rugged than the Hitachi. Glad I held out and saw this. Lowes has it for $650

Incorrect- lowes is cheaper and comes with a stand
Brand new Delta cruzer miter saws are down to 349$,399$ (10",12" respectively) and come with free delta stand (decent quality). I played with the saws in person, very impressed at that price.
These are "new lower price " so no telling when/if it will go back up.

Link- lowes.com/search?searchTerm=cruzer
 

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11% ends tomorrow, normal ad again on Sunday.

Wish Menards would do another 11% off gift cards for the new year, but I know that has only happened once. I need about $20,000 in building materials :(
 

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Seems a lot of people are looking for these led shop lights. I was in Menard's yesterday and I seen these, if they were in the ad i completely missed it. I pick up a couple of them to try out. Don't see anything about them being link-able so I assume they are not. 16.99 isn't a bad price though and my garage setup I don't need them to be link-able. Sale is over on the 24th.

https://www.menards.com/main/lighti...2133557086.htm?tid=8782221240178770035&ipos=9
 

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Seems a lot of people are looking for these led shop lights. I was in Menard's yesterday and I seen these, if they were in the ad i completely missed it. I pick up a couple of them to try out. Don't see anything about them being link-able so I assume they are not. 16.99 isn't a bad price though and my garage setup I don't need them to be link-able. Sale is over on the 24th.

https://www.menards.com/main/lighti...2133557086.htm?tid=8782221240178770035&ipos=9

i was considering going to LED's to replace my 6 shop lights but 2 things stopped me..

i have the 6500k daylight bulbs in my fluorescent fixtures, each bulb is rated at 2850k, or 5700k output. they are 32 watt bulbs so using 64 watts total. the LEDs i was looking at were like 5000k and used 50 or 59 watts... so whats the real advantage? you're not saving much in energy, and the light output is inferior (given it's a different color of light, but still)

am i missing something?
 

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i was considering going to LED's to replace my 6 shop lights but 2 things stopped me..

i have the 6500k daylight bulbs in my fluorescent fixtures, each bulb is rated at 2850k, or 5700k output. they are 32 watt bulbs so using 64 watts total. the LEDs i was looking at were like 5000k and used 50 or 59 watts... so whats the real advantage? you're not saving much in energy, and the light output is inferior (given it's a different color of light, but still)

am i missing something?

For me the advantage was they always turn on, instantly, at full output, even when it's cold. Also, hopefully I will never have to replace them again.
 

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i was considering going to LED's to replace my 6 shop lights but 2 things stopped me..

i have the 6500k daylight bulbs in my fluorescent fixtures, each bulb is rated at 2850k, or 5700k output. they are 32 watt bulbs so using 64 watts total. the LEDs i was looking at were like 5000k and used 50 or 59 watts... so whats the real advantage? you're not saving much in energy, and the light output is inferior (given it's a different color of light, but still)

am i missing something?

Well after looking at these led's I got from Menard's I'm not at all impressed with them in design. I got 2 of them I might put in my basement but I don't think I'll put any of these in my garage.
 

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i was considering going to LED's to replace my 6 shop lights but 2 things stopped me..

i have the 6500k daylight bulbs in my fluorescent fixtures, each bulb is rated at 2850k, or 5700k output. they are 32 watt bulbs so using 64 watts total. the LEDs i was looking at were like 5000k and used 50 or 59 watts... so whats the real advantage? you're not saving much in energy, and the light output is inferior (given it's a different color of light, but still)

am i missing something?

Are you mixing the light output with the color temperature? 2850K is Tungsten and 5700K is Daylight color balance. Those are not measures of how much light they put out. They are measures of how warm / cool the light is.

The measurement of light output will either be in Lumens or Lux. LED will give you more light output (lumens) for the same wattage as fluorescent. For example, an incandescent bulb has a given output and draws 60W. A "60W Equivalent" CFL will draw 23W. A "60W Equivalent" LED will draw 9W. All three lights have the same amount of output but the LED is more efficient. They all put out an "equivalent" light output to a 60W bulb. Now, if you get a LED that draws 60W, it will output WAY more light than a 60W incandescent would have because so much of the energy goes to heat with a tungsten filament. If you buy the same wattage lights in LED vs Fluorescent you should get more light. If you buy the same light output the lights will be the same brightness but use less power.
 

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Are you mixing the light output with the color temperature? 2850K is Tungsten and 5700K is Daylight color balance. Those are not measures of how much light they put out. They are measures of how warm / cool the light is.

The measurement of light output will either be in Lumens or Lux. LED will give you more light output (lumens) for the same wattage as fluorescent. For example, an incandescent bulb has a given output and draws 60W. A "60W Equivalent" CFL will draw 23W. A "60W Equivalent" LED will draw 9W. All three lights have the same amount of output but the LED is more efficient. They all put out an "equivalent" light output to a 60W bulb. Now, if you get a LED that draws 60W, it will output WAY more light than a 60W incandescent would have because so much of the energy goes to heat with a tungsten filament. If you buy the same wattage lights in LED vs Fluorescent you should get more light. If you buy the same light output the lights will be the same brightness but use less power.

my apologies, 2850 lumens per bulb, 2 bulbs, 5700k lumens, vs less on the LED. basically i was getting at, to me, the cost to upgrade wouldn't be worth the energy savings nor losing a small amount of light output.

to get to at least 5k lumens or more, i'd have to spend 30-40 bucks a fixture, i have 6 right now, so i'd be spending 200 dollars replacing them to get about the same light output, and the energy savings isn't much (48-50 watts vs 64 on what i have)

no knocking the LED shop lights, just trying to understand where it would benefit a lot.

ironically, the small shop lights and the larger, brighter ones both say "as bright as a 3 bulb fluorescent" which i'd love to find out how, maybe very soft white bulb, even then you'd be talking 6k in lumens
 

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i suppose if i was looking for new lighting or building a new garage i'd look into it if i had the cash, but to me it's not worth spending the money when what i have works just as good, or better
 

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my apologies, 2850 lumens per bulb, 2 bulbs, 5700k lumens, vs less on the LED. basically i was getting at, to me, the cost to upgrade wouldn't be worth the energy savings nor losing a small amount of light output.

to get to at least 5k lumens or more, i'd have to spend 30-40 bucks a fixture, i have 6 right now, so i'd be spending 200 dollars replacing them to get about the same light output, and the energy savings isn't much (48-50 watts vs 64 on what i have)

no knocking the LED shop lights, just trying to understand where it would benefit a lot.

ironically, the small shop lights and the larger, brighter ones both say "as bright as a 3 bulb fluorescent" which i'd love to find out how, maybe very soft white bulb, even then you'd be talking 6k in lumens

Ah funny that they just ended up lining up with the color temps too. I've seen other people say similar that they already had a good fluorescent setup and it wouldn't improve it to just go to LED. I think the fixtures I have from Costco are something on the order of 4400 Lumens for ~30$. In my case though I have a single circuit for my entire shop space so people able to run 3 lights and have a minimal impact on my total current draw is worth it.
 

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For me the advantage was they always turn on, instantly, at full output, even when it's cold. Also, hopefully I will never have to replace them again.

Expected life of cheap LED fixtures is about the same as a good fluorescent tube. They don't care about about short on times, though, which is what kills lots of tubes in cheap instant-start ballasted fixtures.
 

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i was considering going to LED's to replace my 6 shop lights but 2 things stopped me..

i have the 6500k daylight bulbs in my fluorescent fixtures, each bulb is rated at 2850k, or 5700k output. they are 32 watt bulbs so using 64 watts total. the LEDs i was looking at were like 5000k and used 50 or 59 watts... so whats the real advantage? you're not saving much in energy, and the light output is inferior (given it's a different color of light, but still)

am i missing something?

You seem to have lumens and kelvins confused.

A 'k' means Kelvin. Meaning color
Lumens is output... Meaning brightness

The two are separate and not interchangeable
 
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Noticed today that Dutch Boy paint is on sale as well as $10 per gallon rebate, which makes it a great deal. I've painted two rentals lately with the stuff and been satisfied.
 

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Noticed today that Dutch Boy paint is on sale as well as $10 per gallon rebate, which makes it a great deal. I've painted two rentals lately with the stuff and been satisfied.

I do rebates all the time, and the only rebate that ever came back and bit me was the Dutch Boy rebate. Several years ago they were running a rebate and i submitted it,, 4 mths later they send me a letter stating the products I bought didn't qualify. Never again will I buy Dutch boy
 

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All Masterforce tool storage including the NEW 24" deep boxes are on sale PLUS the 11% rebate. Also side lockers/tops/etc.
 

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I have an older 56" green chest that I bought on clearance a few years ago when the raise & release drawer latch system was first introduced. I was hoping to get a "matching" 56" cabinet on clearance whenever there was another redesign, which seems to have already happened, or is underway, but I missed the boat on being able to get the green variant shipped to store.

There is a black cabinet that is local to me, or I could "drive" to a store that has a green cabinet in stock.

I wonder if my older chest would work with the latest 24" cabinets.
 

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I have an older 56" green chest that I bought on clearance a few years ago when the raise & release drawer latch system was first introduced. I was hoping to get a "matching" 56" cabinet on clearance whenever there was another redesign, which seems to have already happened, or is underway, but I missed the boat on being able to get the green variant shipped to store.

There is a black cabinet that is local to me, or I could "drive" to a store that has a green cabinet in stock.

I wonder if my older chest would work with the latest 24" cabinets.
I have a green 56" lower that I'm thinking of upgrading to a new 72" lower. Good shape, West Central WI. It's the model without the raise and release latch. In case you want to roadtrip

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I have an older 56" green chest that I bought on clearance a few years ago when the raise & release drawer latch system was first introduced. I was hoping to get a "matching" 56" cabinet on clearance whenever there was another redesign, which seems to have already happened, or is underway, but I missed the boat on being able to get the green variant shipped to store.

There is a black cabinet that is local to me, or I could "drive" to a store that has a green cabinet in stock.

I wonder if my older chest would work with the latest 24" cabinets.

Seems like they will ship it to you though?

https://www.menards.com/main/tools-...rawer-mobile-tool-cabinet/p-1444451669316.htm

They are quite a few in stores between Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois as well.
 

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I do rebates all the time, and the only rebate that ever came back and bit me was the Dutch Boy rebate. Several years ago they were running a rebate and i submitted it,, 4 mths later they send me a letter stating the products I bought didn't qualify. Never again will I buy Dutch boy

never had an issue with the dutch boy rebates. just mailed one today, clearance ceiling paint, 25 bucks plus 10 for the mail in rebate and the 11 percent to boot. was going to get the clearance platinum paint for the room i'm finishing in the basement but unfortunately they only had bases left that would work with darker colors, not the color i wanted. ended up going with the pittsburgh ultra.. wish i didn't need paint right now because i know i could get it cheaper when i catch it on sale.. oh well.
 

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I have a green 56" lower that I'm thinking of upgrading to a new 72" lower. Good shape, West Central WI. It's the model without the raise and release latch. In case you want to roadtrip

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Thanks. That model would match my chest, but that would be quite a drive.

Seems like they will ship it to you though?

https://www.menards.com/main/tools-...rawer-mobile-tool-cabinet/p-1444451669316.htm

They are quite a few in stores between Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois as well.

I think they are still offering ship to home, but the shipping is kinda pricey. I want to say it was about $200 from the closest store. I guess if I were to drive to a store, it might not save me much. I would more than likely need to rent a U-Haul trailer. The chest was a tight fit in the back of my Grand Cherokee and I doubt the cabinet would fit. I wish they would ship from one store to another, but they won't.

I would think so they look to be exactly the same design, but 6 inches deeper and other than you'd have a 6 inch ledge.

I tend to agree. I guess my only question would be whether the fasteners that attach the chest to the cabinet would work, but that might also be a question for the newly discontinued line. I could probably use the 6" lip as a work bench :). The new cabinets are only like $80 more than the discontinued models right now.

I got a good deal on the chest when they were clearing those out. I think I paid $299. I was hoping to get a comparable deal on a discontinued cabinet, but that probably ain't happening.

I wonder how the green chest would look with a black cabinet. As of yesterday, there was a black cabinet at a store pretty close by.

I don't even really "need" a cabinet, but the chest is just sitting on the floor of my garage.

Anyone know if the same company is still making the Masterforce boxes? In the past, they were being manufactured by these guys, http://www.qualitycraft.com/, who made many different brands of toolboxes.
 
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I got a good deal on the chest when they were clearing those out. I think I paid $299. I was hoping to get a comparable deal on a discontinued cabinet, but that probably ain't happening.

They don't seem to be willing to clear out the old 18"

I was looking at the older 46" top and bottom set and it was in red (rare to have any color besides green in stock) at my store. Only one left from the 18" line and they had a big sign saying last one. They have it listed for $898 which is the sale price online before 11% rebate. Tried to see if they would knock the price down for it being a floor model and they said no.

Might have to spend the extra ~150 and get the larger depth one.
 

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Who makes the master force hand tools ?pliers, screwdrivers, etc..

Screwdrivers used to be made by Pratt-reed. I guess they're Western Forge these days. I've got a few recent ones, they seem okay. (They're not sizes I use often enough to have strong opinions about.)
 

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Pretty sure they're still Pratt-Read, I haven't noticed any design changes. They're good drivers.

The pliers and stuff seem to be lowest bidder a lot of the time, I'm pretty sure the manufacturer varies quite a bit.
 

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going to start buying masterforce stuff i think.. at least for screwdrivers and pliers and such. our sears is closing so my craftsman drivers wont be getting repaired when they break. how is menards with the warranty on masterforce stuff like drivers and pliers?

i needed a new set of needle nose.. ended up leaving with this. 17 bucks after rebate is a smoking deal for all 6 of these, very comfortable too. dig the finish.

https://www.menards.com/main/tools-...38-c-9156.htm?tid=4740102935174039918&ipos=15
 
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