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Micrometers with no locking lever

stevenmi

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Why do some micrometers come with no locking devise? All of the micrometers I have either have a locking lever or nut/disc. I'm looking on ebay and find some without the locks and wondering what is the advantage or disadvantage of not having a lock.
 

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davethorik

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They are usually just an extra cost option on micrometers. Most of the time, you don't even need one. They can break, or wear out.
 

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I use it on a stand for inspection where I'm changing parts out in sequence. I use my locking ones when I measure parts on the machine because I can't always see the barrel to read it. I also use the locking ones when setting up bore gages.
 

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I think locking might be good for a go/no-go gage.

Ratcheting barrel is another "thingy" that can come on a mic. My mentor drilled into my head that the ratcheting barrel was not for a skilled hand's useage, it was for those who had no "feel".
 

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Locks are handy to 'hold' the measurement when withdrawing the mike from some awkward position after taking a measurement.
 
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rlitman

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I like the ratcheting mechanism on mine. Seems like it would be the most accurate method of getting consistent results.

Exactly. Though I prefer the spring clutch barrel wrap style.
Anyway, nobody has the feel to get as consistent results as either mechanism.
 
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Exactly. Though I prefer the spring clutch barrel wrap style.
Anyway, nobody has the feel to get as consistent results as either mechanism.

When I say ratcheting, I mean that you can crank down to a point, and then it just clicks. I take it that this is ratcheting style?
 

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Yes, the type rlitman is talking about is commonly called a friction thimble...same premise, but no clicks.

Yep, friction thimble. I couldn't remember the name.
Pretty much the same idea in the end, though no clicks and a mushy feel, but also the entire outside of the thimble slips, so you don't need to use another hand to support the mic (and I prefer to touch the mic as little as possible). It also doesn't get tighter with every click.

Mitutoyo explains the styles in this document:
https://www.mitutoyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2119-Product-Fund.pdf

While not all of the pros and cons are spelled out there, either can give excellent results when applied correctly and consistently. I can't say I've ever seen the "ratchet thimble" they describe.
 

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I remember when I first started, old German owner of the company would say "It's not a Gdamn c clamp".
 

davethorik

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I remember when I first started, old German owner of the company would say "It's not a Gdamn c clamp".

Did you know it is possible to bear down on a micrometer so hard it bends the frame? I didn't until I saw the aftermath. The spindle and anvil went out of parallel, and it chipped the **** out of the carbide tips. Not to mention any internal damage to the threads that may have occurred. Oh and best for last- this was all done with a pair of 12" channellocks and the Mic clamped in a bench vise, with a gage block in the mic.

The gage block survived, but needed stoned and lapped to the point it was undersize .0002", scrap. Mic was toast. I think the lock knob may have survived the ordeal.

The story I heard, guy thought Mic was a friction thimble, but was actually a plain thimble. So he assumed the friction thimble was stuck or seized, and went to town on it, Channellock style.

Sigh.
 
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