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The grinder is actually low man on the Fuel totem pole. You have 2783 which came out near the same time as the 2780, but is tool-less & has a brake. Then they just came out with the 2980-20, that takes advantage of High-Output batteries, and is rated as a 13amp equivalent grinder. This is also tool-less & has a brake. While much better than the brushed grinder & more than enough for most, it is not the latest or greatest anymore.

Follow up questions:

1) So the 2780 & 2783 do not take advantage of HO batteries? Does that mean these grinders are not optimized for HO, or that they're actually incompatible with HO batteries?

2) Isn't the 2980-20 a larger grinder, larger wheels, than the 2780 & 2783?

3) What's the advantage of a brake on a battery operated tool? I had assumed all battery operated tools spun down pretty fast. No?
 
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Follow up questions:

1) So the 2780 & 2783 do not take advantage of HO batteries? Does that mean these grinders are not optimized for HO, or that they're actually incompatible with HO batteries?

2) Isn't the 2980-20 a larger grinder, larger wheels, than the 2780 & 2783?

3) What's the advantage of a brake on a battery operated tool? I had assumed all battery operated tools spun down pretty fast. No?


#1 HO should fit ok but I would assume the electronics probably wont know the difference

#2 Yes up to 6" vs 4-1/2 to 5"

#3 3 sec wheel stop gotta love it...guessing you haven't experienced setting down one that's still slightly moving and accidently catching the wheel :D
 

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#3 3 sec wheel stop gotta love it...guessing you haven't experienced setting down one that's still slightly moving and accidently catching the wheel :D

Thanks for the answers. Sorry for non-deal post, but I'm in the market for a grinder and needed to know. Regards the above, of course I have! On corded grinders. I was under the impression that most battery tools spun down quickly anyway but based on your answer, I guess not. I've not used a cordless grinder yet.

BTW, I am getting up to speed that there are some tools optimized for HO (above grinder being one of them), if anybody's interested, link below. Looks like the "larger motor" amp-grabbing tools will be optimized for HO, and the smaller more compact tools that don't grab amperage will not utilize any particular advantage of the HO batteries.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tool...aukee-12-ah-high-output-battery-review/39878/
 
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Thanks for the answers. Sorry for non-deal post, but I'm in the market for a grinder and needed to know. Regards the above, of course I have! On corded grinders. I was under the impression that most battery tools spun down quickly anyway but based on your answer, I guess not. I've not used a cordless grinder yet.

BTW, I am getting up to speed that there are some tools optimized for HO (above grinder being one of them), if anybody's interested, link below. Looks like the "larger motor" amp-grabbing tools will be optimized for HO, and the smaller more compact tools that don't grab amperage will not utilize any particular advantage of the HO batteries.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tool...aukee-12-ah-high-output-battery-review/39878/

I have to say I'm by no means any expert on the new High Output batteries and I only have the High Demand (9.0) and Milwaukee did release newer tools in parallel especially for use with those batteries Circ saw, recip saws, grinders, maybe more than that I dunno, but really I don't have recall of any spiels touting major performance increases using HO with the older tools. Except for increased runtimes with the larger of XC battery line up and some slight RPM boost

If there is more to it hopefully some of the others will add their knowledge here or over on the Addiction thread
 

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Whats the Return valve on the $199 M18 2x4.0 Starter kit with select free tools. Wondering how much the Wet/Dry Vacuum and Sander would be after Starter kit return ?
 

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Thanks for the answers. Sorry for non-deal post, but I'm in the market for a grinder and needed to know. Regards the above, of course I have! On corded grinders. I was under the impression that most battery tools spun down quickly anyway but based on your answer, I guess not. I've not used a cordless grinder yet.

BTW, I am getting up to speed that there are some tools optimized for HO (above grinder being one of them), if anybody's interested, link below. Looks like the "larger motor" amp-grabbing tools will be optimized for HO, and the smaller more compact tools that don't grab amperage will not utilize any particular advantage of the HO batteries.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tool...aukee-12-ah-high-output-battery-review/39878/

If you are in the market for a Grinder, I'm selling my 2780 for $100 shipped never used, just got it last week. Just sayin...
 

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I have to add I have a 1st Gen 2781 the one with the lock on slide switch. Its the one I wanted at the time.

Same here, that's the one I wanted & is what I got. Paddle switch is great too & has it's advantages but I much prefer the slide locking switch. My grinder is for home use so no OSHA to worry about.
 

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Whats the Return valve on the $199 M18 2x4.0 Starter kit with select free tools. Wondering how much the Wet/Dry Vacuum and Sander would be after Starter kit return ?
for the 4.0x2 + thing promo (4.0 is #309844229):

depot adds and removes SKUs from this type of promotion as the promotion evolves, this is what it showed for me just now. ends dec 3

202196549 119->74.47 m18 2630 brushed 6.5 circular saw
205482388 129->78.27 m18 2621 brushed sawzall
202196580 119->74.47 m18 2680 brushed 4 1/2 angle grinder
204463218 119->74.47 m18 2626 multitool
206463133 149->85.20 m18 2360 floor flood light
304591900 99->59.47 m18 2648 brushed 5 ro sander
202043806 89->61.50 m18 0880 box vacuum
205846390 79->56.55 m18 0886 jobsite fan
205620421 129->78.27 m18 48-11-1850 5.0xc battery
206395174 129->78.27 m18 2890 jobsite radio
203807106 119->74.47 m18 48-59-1806 6-port sequential charger

you can do the math or just add both items to cart online and the return value shows in the cart in checkout

of these, "ok deals" are the multitool, sander, fan, vacuum. the rest are either old/busted versions of whatever tool or just not good prices

"good deal" I'd say the floor flood light, it's a great light if you need one and this price is maybe the best ever

there's a trick, if you order online, put the thing you want as pickup and the thing you'd return as deliver to home. place the order and then cancel the deliver to home within 15 minutes. usually works and saves you the bother of returning anything
 
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thanks for asking that question, I didn't know the 2648 5" RO sander was included. I was able to do the 4.0 kit ship to home RO sander store pickup, cancel ship to home thing. for some reason, the total for the kit was $179 instead of the advertised $199, I think there may be some problem. Sometimes depot will update the price of kit parts on, for example, the 1st of the month on a schedule but the promo still runs for a few days. This happened earlier this year with a ryobi battery + 2 tool kit and it got a little ridiculous, brushless tools were $35 after return.
 

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thanks for asking that question, I didn't know the 2648 5" RO sander was included. I was able to do the 4.0 kit ship to home RO sander store pickup, cancel ship to home thing. for some reason, the total for the kit was $179 instead of the advertised $199, I think there may be some problem. Sometimes depot will update the price of kit parts on, for example, the 1st of the month on a schedule but the promo still runs for a few days. This happened earlier this year with a ryobi battery + 2 tool kit and it got a little ridiculous, brushless tools were $35 after return.

I didn't even think to check online since usually its a bundle price and can't be returned. Looks like only works with 1 item per order so have to place 2nd or 3rd order for more items.

M18 Multi Tool - $74.47 was wondering on this one since I bought 2x of the $99 Kits which is better deal just after selling charger's/batteries. Plus you still get a nice bag. I like these better than the Fuel Bags since you have some inside pockets as well.

M18 Sander - $59.47 at this price I'll take the gamble on it. Be nice to sands something real quick if needed.

M18 Vac - $61.50 Going to buy another one already have one like to keep one in the truck.

M18 - $85.20 good price already have one.

M18 Fan - $56.55 Decent price now if you need it. Got 3 of them already.

M18 6 Charger - $74.47 I have the Rapid M18/M12 6 charger not a bad price but I like the M18/M12 Rapid and only use M18/M12 Rapid single chargers and sell the regular chargers off if I get them.

The rest don't care for and have the Fuel versions.
 

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Looks like $228.65 for the 2830-20 M18 FUEL Rear Handle 7-1/4 in. Circular Saw @ Acme with 15%. Seems decent but still might wait not in a huge need of it. I'm sure some promo might come along during Summer 2020.
 

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HD.com special buy of the day has some good deals on M18 and M12 tools where you essentially get M18 5.0 or M12 4.0 battery for free. Some tools are even priced a bit lower in the special buy. Also, the newest version of the M18 Fuel grinder is on sale with and without a HO 6.0 battery. model #'s 2980 & 2981 and these aren't in the special buy.
 

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I’m glad I waited out on buying the m12 grease gun from one of the online guys...


Home Depot has a few buy an m12 and get a 4.0 kit free right now. Online “cyber Monday” deals.
 

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M12 bare tool grease guns are $99 most places right now...though I already have one and love it I just tried stacking the ACME CYBER15 for 99+ coupon on it just for grins. Wouldn't work, added a filler a pen to bring it over $100 still wouldn't work. Thing is unless I missed I don't see that part # in list of exclusions :confused: Worked ok on the kit though

Dang with free shipping over $49 be a good deal if could get it
 

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I wonder if the right angle die grinder will show up on a promo. That and a ratchet would be a great combo for me.

Also, are any of the grinders variable speed? I am looking to do rust repair and and want to control the speed a bit.
 

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I wonder if the right angle die grinder will show up on a promo. That and a ratchet would be a great combo for me.

Also, are any of the grinders variable speed? I am looking to do rust repair and and want to control the speed a bit.

As far as I know the the grinders are either on or off...they run at full rpm

The new M12 RA grinder has 4 modes for different peak RPM 0 - 10,000 0 - 15,000, 0 - 20,000, 0 - 24,500


Now the 2438 M12 polisher sander does have a variable speed trigger and two mode setting to control peak RPM Sanding RPM: 0-8,300 RPM
Polishing RPM: 0-2,800 RPM.

I'm looking at one of them now was hoping to score my best DEAL on one today

Does anybody know of any promo codes for Tooltopia (they do have a code box on checkout) seems they have the best value on an 22x kit throwing in 2 xtra 1.5 compact batteries for $216. Though nobody really needs ANOTHER charger :lol_hitti does have the hard case for storage too.

https://www.tooltopia.com/milwaukee-2438-22xec.aspx
 

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The grinder is actually low man on the Fuel totem pole. You have 2783 which came out near the same time as the 2780, but is tool-less & has a brake. Then they just came out with the 2980-20, that takes advantage of High-Output batteries, and is rated as a 13amp equivalent grinder. This is also tool-less & has a brake. While much better than the brushed grinder & more than enough for most, it is not the latest or greatest anymore.

There is also the 7/9in grinder, but I’d put that in separate category, as that is a whole different size disc that is used.

I still don't understand why the brake is necessary on the Fuel grinders that already ratchet down within a couple revolutions and I don't use a spanner on any of my 4.5 - 6" grinders, so tool-less = glove
 

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I also don't understand why "they" are trying to convince us a brake is necessary at all when I'd bet 99% of all angle grinding trigger time in the US is still 120VAC and I'm not aware of (any?) corded angle grinders implementing a brake.

Basically, don't believe the hype. Everyone is taught to brake by just stopping the wheel on a sacrificial part of your work or workbench anyhow. As for arguments about "safety"... Darwin's theories covered that, ie don't be dumb
 

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As far as I know the the grinders are either on or off...they run at full rpm

The new M12 RA grinder has 4 modes for different peak RPM 0 - 10,000 0 - 15,000, 0 - 20,000, 0 - 24,500


Now the 2438 M12 polisher sander does have a variable speed trigger and two mode setting to control peak RPM Sanding RPM: 0-8,300 RPM
Polishing RPM: 0-2,800 RPM.

I'm looking at one of them now was hoping to score my best DEAL on one today

Does anybody know of any promo codes for Tooltopia (they do have a code box on checkout) seems they have the best value on an 22x kit throwing in 2 xtra 1.5 compact batteries for $216. Though nobody really needs ANOTHER charger :lol_hitti does have the hard case for storage too.

https://www.tooltopia.com/milwaukee-2438-22xec.aspx

Thanks for the tips on the RA. Looks like the 2438 is better for me. I was wanting something more akin to air where I could control speed via trigger/paddle.
 
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No, I’m not 100% sure. But it’s a “pre order” so it shouldn’t be a problem.

FYI, I called toolup this morning (there was a bit of a wait, but they have a call back system), and they canceled my older order quickly and easily and sent me an email confirmation.
 

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FYI, I called toolup this morning (there was a bit of a wait, but they have a call back system), and they canceled my older order quickly and easily and sent me an email confirmation.



I called earlier and talked to a guy Anthony there and he canceled my order as well. I’m still waiting on the email confirmation.
 

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About the braking action on the Fuel grinders being talked about, my slide switch unit does stop completely by a quick count of 4 after you release the switch...1,2,3,4
 

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I called earlier and talked to a guy Anthony there and he canceled my order as well. I’m still waiting on the email confirmation.
I spoke with the same guy...I did specifically ask for an email confirmation, so I'm not sure if it's standard practice to send an email confirmation?
 

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I spoke with the same guy...I did specifically ask for an email confirmation, so I'm not sure if it's standard practice to send an email confirmation?



I asked for one also (and he said he would send it) but I haven’t got it yet.
 

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I also don't understand why "they" are trying to convince us a brake is necessary at all when I'd bet 99% of all angle grinding trigger time in the US is still 120VAC and I'm not aware of (any?) corded angle grinders implementing a brake.

Basically, don't believe the hype. Everyone is taught to brake by just stopping the wheel on a sacrificial part of your work or workbench anyhow. As for arguments about "safety"... Darwin's theories covered that, ie don't be dumb

Braking is typically cheaper and easier to accomplish on DC motors, which might explain why this feature doesnt happen on most 120 vac tools. In any case, dont knock it till you try it. I have the M18 angle grinder with brake and I find it to be a huge time saver when I'm making a lots of quick cuts since I can put the tool down immediately after a cut rather than needing to wait for it to spin down or sacrificing part of my work or workbench.
 

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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill
 

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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill

I can't answer your question, but you should be able to sell the high torque for more than you can buy the mid torque. So you might end up pocketing some cash if you don't mind prob in the work to resell.

EDIT: I just looked at the deal and noticed it is not the fuel model, so nevermind
 
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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill

I just bought the 3/8 Stubby, the Mid TQ, and the Hi TQ.

Took out a large nut and bolt and a bracket and played with it a bit in my vise.

I like em all, but that's not surprising, ehhh...:lol_hitti

They have different Impact settings on them. I played around a bit, and then decided to see how quick the Hi TQ would destroy the 12mm bolt. It was instantaneous. Use it with respect, it would have no problem snapping a wheel stud on the Hi setting methinks.

Seems to me that the stubby 3/8 and the mid TQ would do most anything you would run into. The only thing I usually run into that I might need the high TQ is for a Crank bolt on my Land Cruiser. That's why I got it.
 

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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill

Have a link to the deal?
 

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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill

I can't answer your question, but you should be able to sell the high torque for more than you can buy the mid torque. So you might end up pocketing some cash if you don't mind prob in the work to resell.

EDIT: I just looked at the deal and noticed it is not the fuel model, so nevermind


Ya like swaps said its the older non fuel high torque, 450ftlbs it was rated so specs are generally comparable to the newest FUEL Mid Torque

Not a bad deal though mid torque alone is close to that price by itself
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Oh lucky me by following up on some of the HD Cyber Monday deals I found just what I needed with the 2438 polisher/sander. "Special Buy of the Day" $129 and with a bonus 4.0 starter kit! :beer:

Couldn't do better on the bare tool alone at ACME with the 15% was $136 earlier :wtf:
 

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I've been wanting a M12 ratchet and saw Home Depot's Cyber Monday ad for a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and an M18 non-fuel High Torque 1/2" impact combo.
I've seen numerous posts here about the mid-torque's capability, but that's not an option for this deal. My uses would be mostly for tire changes and rotations, with an occasional axle nut or suspension bolt. Currently I have both pneumatic and corded electric impacts, but would like the cordless concept. I'm just a weekender, maintaining the family fleet. Is the hi-torque overkill for my needs? If the torque is as high as advertised, is there any danger of snapping off wheel studs, or is the torque manageable for wheels in the 100 ft/lbs range? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill

I'm also a weekender maintaining my track car and family fleet...I had an older M18 fuel 3/8 impact with 200 ft-lbs and it was plenty for wheels, suspension bolts, etc. Until one time I got to one single rusted brake caliper bracket bolt that it couldn't break free. So I sold it and got the mid-torque...great impact, still haven't found a bolt it can't break free. However, it is pretty big and bulky for all around use. I do have the 3/8 non-fuel ratchet, and that is much smaller and easier to use on small stuff. I did just pull the trigger on a 3/8 stubby to have something smaller for dragging to the track :)

If I were you, the mid-torque and 3/8 ratchet combo would be great. Or, just the 3/8 stubby for all around use and pick up a mid-torque or high torque later if you find you absolutely need more power...but the 250 ft-lbs in the stubby will handle a ton, esp for a weekender.
 

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I asked for one also (and he said he would send it) but I haven’t got it yet.



Once we’re on the topic of toolup, they requested a wire transfer for my transaction to go through. I contacted Milwaukee and told them this extremely unprofessional request. Don’t think I’ll ever attempt to use them again


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Anyone notice toolup charges way too much tax? Killing the deal on the batteries.
 
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