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Tucker99

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Got a simple single handle Moen bath faucet from HD and it is a piece of ****. Where can I buy the commercial stuff with the replacement cartridge, standard 3/4" aerator, etc. This is in a high use bath and I need a something that will last. Also, really digging that new brushed aluminum finish. Any suggestions?
 
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I like Moen, but the last home I bought, I installed Price Pfister vanities in two baths, after I closed, and the two-handle 8" spread fixture I put in one bathroom is still working perfectly. Twenty+ years. We re-modeled the en-suite bath several years ago, and it got new shower and vanity fixtures, yes, Moen.
 

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All the manufacturers build fixtures for the box stores at a price point that the store specifies and it is of a much lesser quality than what you get from a commercial plumbing supply house.

Go to a supply house to get a fixture than can be serviced down the road.


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Been very satisfied with Delta
Bought a kitchen sink faucet from Lowe’s a year ago in brushed nickel
The guy in plumbing dept said if a part ever failed Delta would send u the part free
Can’t verify that yet
 

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I get a free replacement cartridge for the Delta kitchen faucet every couple of years, no questions asked. They even have my info on file when I call with a problem. Our water is very hard and corrosive.
 

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In all fairness .. they all make a decent product. (Moen/Delta/PF)

I get mine from the supply house

The Moen cartridge design is smaller and IMO a bit smoother .. my "go to" for the rentals was always the Chateau line .... especially the classic kitchen faucet. With the single handle bathroom faucet I could go either way (Delta/Moen) .. some people like the classic Delta design better. The better Moen line just seems a bit better built ... but, I have never had a Delta not outlast the bathroom. They will both send you parts ...

PF is more of a design decision -- They have nice designs in the kitchen line.

They all make stuff in China today ....
 

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We have had a Moen for years, but I did NOT keep the receipt, and have no way of knowing what the model # is, so I don't know what aerator to get, and NONE of the aerators on HD display are the right one...and ideas?? Really DON'T want to get a whole new faucet just to have a working aerator!!
 

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That is what people whom have crossed shopped dedicated fixture retailers to big box stores. The fixtures look the same, but the guts are much different, hence the higher price tag.
 

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It's like buying a John Deere riding lawn mower from HD. It's just a junk MTD painted green.
People think they are getting the real deal.
 

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We have had a Moen for years, but I did NOT keep the receipt, and have no way of knowing what the model # is, so I don't know what aerator to get, and NONE of the aerators on HD display are the right one...and ideas?? Really DON'T want to get a whole new faucet just to have a working aerator!!

contact them with a picture
 

yeldogt

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That is what people whom have crossed shopped dedicated fixture retailers to big box stores. The fixtures look the same, but the guts are much different, hence the higher price tag.

Manufacturers make specific models for retailers .... same with major appliances .. mattress sets for the mass market sellers.


If the model #'s don't match -- not the same
 

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Moen sent me free parts for my single handle kitchen faucet. No problem.

i get free cartridges from moen as well, but you have to have a plumber come out to install it. the old cartridges get so jammed / stuck in the fixture sometimes that they have to be chiseled out when the moen puller isnt enough. i tried to pull a stuck bath tub fixture cartridge out once and spent hours on it without success, by then it was after 5pm and i had to pay for an OT plumber visit to be able to turn the water back on to the house that night.

the plumber i last used told me that once he had to torch one out AND that he only has Delta fixtures in his house.
 

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We are in the process of finishing a house and specified that any any-wall valve be moen... Largely because they are relatively easy to replace and Moen has a good reputation for warrantying them.

For faucets, I'm much more flexible as they're relatively easy to replace and we don't have to shut the water main off.

The number one killer of fixtures is poor water quality - if you've got poor water, particularly high mineral content (TDS) water, even the best fixture is going to have limited life...
 
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Been very satisfied with Delta
Bought a kitchen sink faucet from Lowe’s a year ago in brushed nickel
The guy in plumbing dept said if a part ever failed Delta would send u the part free
Can’t verify that yet

My daughter lived in a northern Canadian community, about 4 miles before the pavement ends (and going north the next pavement will be in Russia). She was away for a few days and I got a call from the couple watching her house. Her new furnace had failed at -40. They got the repair guy there and he fixed it but they said the tub was dripping, so they turned the H2O off. The house was pex so I didn't worry a lot but decided that since she would be away for another 10 days I should take a look. Got there and found the Delta cartridge had frozen and cracked. Tried to buy one locally, no one had any, Since it was a 2 hour drive (each way) to get one, I bought an entire new unit locally, just used the cartridge. Brought the cracked cartridge home and took it to a plumbing shop for replacement. The guy handed me a new one and said "here ya go". I said it's been frozen, not their problem and he again said "warranty, no charge". I haven't bought anything but Delta since.
 

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We are in the process of finishing a house and specified that any any-wall valve be moen... Largely because they are relatively easy to replace and Moen has a good reputation for warrantying them.

For faucets, I'm much more flexible as they're relatively easy to replace and we don't have to shut the water main off.

The number one killer of fixtures is poor water quality - if you've got poor water, particularly high mineral content (TDS) water, even the best fixture is going to have limited life...

Grohe makes great thermo shower valves ... It's all I use for personal. More money ... Lifetime warr.
 

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It's like buying a John Deere riding lawn mower from HD. It's just a junk MTD painted green.
People think they are getting the real deal.

People really need to quit repeating this load of horse ****. John Deere builds all their consumer grade riders in a JD plant located in Greeneville TN. Look it up. Plenty of pictures and videos of the operation available online to put this old wives' tale to bed for good.
 

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All the manufacturers build fixtures for the box stores at a price point that the store specifies and it is of a much lesser quality than what you get from a commercial plumbing supply house.

Go to a supply house to get a fixture than can be serviced down the road.


If you think Moen makes different castings and cartridges for the box stores and a better one for the wholesaler,think again.A moen L2353 etc. is the same no matter where you buy it.
 

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All the manufacturers build fixtures for the box stores at a price point that the store specifies and it is of a much lesser quality than what you get from a commercial plumbing supply house.

Go to a supply house to get a fixture than can be serviced down the road.


If you think Moen makes different castings and cartridges for the box stores and a better one for the wholesaler,think again.A moen L2353 etc. is the same no matter where you buy it.

PF isn't. Same part number fixture at HD is a COMPLETELY different from a supply house. The HD unit doesn't have a replacment cartridge anywhere on the planet. BTDT...

Tommy
 

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PF isn't. Same part number fixture at HD is a COMPLETELY different from a supply house. The HD unit doesn't have a replacment cartridge anywhere on the planet. BTDT...

Really? Do you really think Moen would make two different faucets with the same part number? How would they tell them apart for manufacturing, distribution, and parts if they had the same part number? You would think Moen might be sued if two items with the same part number were built differently internally.

I checked a number of different Moen faucets on homedepot.com and every one of them lists a lifetime warranty. Do you really think Meon isn't going to have the cartridges available if they have a lifetime warranty?

Moen absolutely makes some faucets specifically for big box stores that are not sold at plumbing supply houses. However, the big box faucets have different model names and part numbers. I know for sure the Adler line is only sold at big box stores. A plumber doing work for me couldn't get the Adler faucet I wanted from his supply house and he was told it is only sold at big box stores.

Electronics manufacturers have long made special model numbers for big box stores. They may not be different other than model number, but it keeps customers from price matching since nobody else has the same model number.
 

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Moen absolutely makes some faucets specifically for big box stores that are not sold at plumbing supply houses. However, the big box faucets have different model names and part numbers. I know for sure the Adler line is only sold at big box stores. A plumber doing work for me couldn't get the Adler faucet I wanted from his supply house and he was told it is only sold at big box stores.


The Moen Adler line is available at supply houses,Ferguson,Crawford Supply,Meyers all have it in my area. It might have been that the supply house just didn't have it in stock.
 

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the problem is you bought from a big box store. the plumbing supply stores get a better grsade such as all brass popups instead of plastic. big box stores get parts made for a price point not quality
they do make different faucets for home depot buying power
here is a perfect example glacier bay toilets all have the same part number for the model you look at but different sku #. why is that? several manufacturers make the same toilet but if you check the m.a.p. toilet testing you will see several with the same part number of model name but different flushing abilities.the different manufacturers cut thier cost by cutting corners where they dont think the consumer wii see. water heaters are another example. box store heater plastic drain valve at bottom supply house heater has a brass valve
lifetime warranty doesn't mean they will always make parts.escpecially after the recession. parts that barely sold where not remade but discountinued. i have replaced several moen pullout spout faucets because the hose assembly was no longer made. it was just cheaper for their inventory and manufacturering to just replace the whole faucet with a new one. all it takes is one little prefix at the end and its not the sale
 
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Really? Do you really think Moen would make two different faucets with the same part number? How would they tell them apart for manufacturing, distribution, and parts if they had the same part number? You would think Moen might be sued if two items with the same part number were built differently internally.

I checked a number of different Moen faucets on homedepot.com and every one of them lists a lifetime warranty. Do you really think Meon isn't going to have the cartridges available if they have a lifetime warranty?

Moen absolutely makes some faucets specifically for big box stores that are not sold at plumbing supply houses. However, the big box faucets have different model names and part numbers. I know for sure the Adler line is only sold at big box stores. A plumber doing work for me couldn't get the Adler faucet I wanted from his supply house and he was told it is only sold at big box stores.

IDK about Moen. I know for sure about PF. Right after I bought my house I bought A PF fixture at HD and installed it. I did it the way I was taught by a veteran plumber- Remove the aerator, open the faucet hot and cold valves before turning the water back on. Turn the water on, flush the fixture, shut the faucet off, install the aerator. The hot water dripped. Went back to HD to get a cartridge. They said didn't have them. Said they were not available in store. Went to the plumbing supply house. Gave them the fixure P/N. The cartridge did not match the one from the HD fixture. Counter man even showed me the parts breakdown. Same fixture P/N, different internals. Now that being said (this is the important part), THEY HAD THE SAME P/N, BUT DIFFERENT UPC CODES.

It was also over twenty years ago, so I'm sure much has changed.

Tommy
 

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Post #9.....hotshot....delta kitchen faucet with pull out sprayer, from plumbing supply house. Same story....call and they will sen you the part....so I did and not a problem. True to their word.
 

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The Moen Adler line is available at supply houses,Ferguson,Crawford Supply,Meyers all have it in my area. It might have been that the supply house just didn't have it in stock.

My apologies. I was going by what the plumber told the contractor. I would normally install a faucet myself, but I hired a contractor for a large remodeling project. The contractor hired a plumber because the bathtub needed a new valve and the vanity was being replaced with new faucet. The plumber said he would install the Adler faucet if the contractor or myself supplied. I can't recall if I bought it from Menards, or if the contractor did.
 

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If one of the big faucet companies with lifetime warranty ever said they didn't have the part anymore my next question would be which model faucet were they sending as a replacement?

Moen has been good to me. I called them to ask about a part number so I could buy an o-ring I lost to convert my kitchen faucet to a single hole faucet. They said they would send it at no cost. (I kept the o-ring as I knew I would eventually convert to single hole.) Another time the diverter valve on my three handle Moen shower faucet froze up. I got the old one out and called Moen who promptly sent me a new diverter stem.

Most plumbing supply houses don't want to deal with homeowners if a plumber is not involved. (I've tried.) I won't ever buy another store brand Chinese faucet. I have one in my motorhome bathroom and the finish is gone despite limited use. It also had two extra screens in the aerator which caused it to plug up. It took me a few years to realize that and once I took out the two extra screens it never plugged up again.
 

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We have a Delta faucet in our home from The original build 40+ years ago. Still functioning fine. We are building a new cabin. We had a good selection of taps and faucets to choose from at the wholesaler. Delta will be our faucet of choice. Mind you Koehler came in as our second choice for finish and styling. Just don’t want to source parts if needed.
My buddy is a plumber and will only buy Moen. Moen was not available at the supplier but do have Moen kitchen taps at home. Think we bought them at Costco.
 

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Another vote for Delta. I have had them for years.

KEH
 

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There’s not a big difference between Moen, Delta, and Kohler. They’re all available for the budget minded to the designer lines. I have my favorite but they’re all good quality once you get away from the economy/lowest tier products.
 

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All the manufacturers build fixtures for the box stores at a price point that the store specifies and it is of a much lesser quality than what you get from a commercial plumbing supply house.

Go to a supply house to get a fixture than can be serviced down the road.


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Rmack898 beat me to it.......This is not a fallacy but a fact......Years ago, I had a good friend, who was working in the field, school me.....We went to the box store and picked up a Moen sink fixture off the shelf, then went and purchased the same item at the plumbing supply house. He then laid out all of the parts side by side on his workbench....While the fixture appears to be the same, the internal parts are not always the same. Plastic vs brass, plastic vs a different quality plastic, etc and so forth.........

To the OP:

If the house is a temporary item, fine, go to the box store, if this is your forever home, buy it where the professionals do....


Bill S.
 
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