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DocsMachine

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Feel free to hate me, but what an amazing waste of time and material. He could have been making some other invention (vehicle) where that level of style and expense and time is appropriate.

-No hate, but perhaps a bit of clarification.

It's not only "just plain cool", and, as others have said, a worthy piece to practice tricky skills upon, but it's also a showpiece.

If you wanted to get a tattoo, you would naturally want to see examples of the artists' work beforehand. If you wanted a new kitchen and cabinets installed, you'd probably want to see photos of work the installer has done previously. Heck, if you were going to hire a guy to make a webpage for your business, you'd want to see examples of other websites the guy has made.

That cart is an example of that guys' skill.

You go to a body shop to have some work done to your car- which would you rather see, a guy in greasy coveralls driving a rusted-out pickup covered in dents, or a guy in a clean shop shirt driving a clean, detailed custom truck?

The people going to the shop that cart guy works for, are looking to spend huge coin to get world-class work done. That "Rampage" Camaro likely cost the client half a million or more- the client isn't looking to pinch pennies, he's looking for skilled people with good ideas that can bring his "vision" to life.

He doesn't care how cheaply they can make it, all he wants to know is can they take this wild-a*s idea, these three or four concept drawings, and this old car as a base to start from, and make it a show-winning reality.

If a wild cart like that even unconsciously helps the shop land a $200,000 contract, it wasn't wasted time. :)

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[QUOTE
That cart is an example of that guys' skill.
The people going to the shop that cart guy works for, are looking to spend huge coin to get world-class work done.
If a wild cart like that even unconsciously helps the shop land a $200,000 contract, it wasn't wasted time. :)
Doc.[/QUOTE]


^^^ This guy gets it! ^^^
The shop that cart guy works at builds some of the most trick cars in the USA.
If you were shopping for a place to build a very high end custom car....would you go to the place that cobbled together a welder cart out of an old crappy shopping cart / broken down dolly... or the place that built the wildest most trick welding cart you've ever seen?!

Most guys with the coin to build a high end car (like they do there) want to be able to say: "I had my __________ built at ________(insert high end custom car shop name here).
They can't brag that they had it done at joe blows bondo & ************ welding shop.

(& I bet $200,000 is just a start for some of the builds done there)
 

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Ya thats actually a little WTF. Spends huge amount of time and money building a cart then puts an Everlast welder on it. He most have a ton of extra space because that cart will hog a lot of room.
 

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Very, very cool cart. Lots to show in the way of fabrication skills and design capabilities. I would love to see it and like others have said, it is a true sales piece for a high end custom shop.
 

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I don't know... Some of us have floors in our garages that might need more suspension travel and more aggressive tires :thumbup:
 

DocsMachine

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Ya thats actually a little WTF. Spends huge amount of time and money building a cart then puts an Everlast welder on it.

-I don't recall if he said, but I strongly suspect the bulk of the materials came from his employer. The laser/waterjet and press brake certainly did. The welder itself, however, appears to be his own purchase, and he did say, in effect, that it'll do for now.

He most have a ton of extra space because that cart will hog a lot of room.

-Didn't you see the photos of the shop he works at? You could use an entire longbed pickup truck as a welder cart and still have plenty of room. :D

Doc.
 

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That is very very cool but overdone for sure
You only really need the suspension on one end if you want to prevent rocking on an uneven floor

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I'm not sure why some of you guys are knocking on this thing...It's so awesome! It's what engineers do best, they over do it. If I had his skills, I would be making cantilever suspensions for just about anything with wheels! One day...
 
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I'm not sure why some of you guys are knocking on this thing...It's so awesome! It's what engineers do best, they over do it. If I had his skills, I would be making cantilever suspensions for just about anything with wheels! One day...

It is not "over built" nor it is even artistic or jaw droopingly difficult. It has a rather advanced suspension system (hence my comment earlier) on something that is completely unnecessary, nor advantageous in this design. All based on a super basic trapezoid frame.

I am personally not a huge fan, but to each their own. That is not a slight against the builder as he has incredible fabrication skills, but the choice I don't follow.
 
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It is not "over built" nor it is even artistic or jaw droopingly difficult. It has a rather advanced suspension system (hence my comment earlier) on something that is completely unnecessary, nor advantageous in this design. All based on a super basic trapezoid frame.

I am personally not a huge fan, but to each their own. That is not a slight against the builder as he has incredible fabrication skills, but the choice I don't follow.

I understand that, just as you said it is completely unnecessary, I said engineers tend to "over do it." I agree it is way over-the-top and impractical for a cart, but sometimes you have it in your gut to build something outrageous and different, and by the reactions were having, no one has done something quite like this to a welding cart.
 

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I am all for the beginner being super practical as I learned the hard way. This is not the case here, the cart is art.
Its different than someone saving week to week under the misguided impression its something they got to have. All that is art of mm preach on practical and sometimes cheap for the novice and entry level people, so they get real return, get return there is some incentive.
I doubt the cart was a breaking deal, it was entertaining art work to the fabricator.
 

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from that thread.

white and wood on a welding cart.... serious juxtaposition from the normal looks lol
 

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Haters gonna hate.

Sberry like that cart too buddy. Cool contrast between two the carts here.
 
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This is a kind of project a guy wants to do, its cool. What I don't like to leave the impression is where a guy needs something and doesn't. Inch air lines in a garage and a Blanchard ground table with specialized clamps to fix the mower deck has too high a learning curve and cost too much. Guys end up with hi investments in pieces that soon take up space.
I got no criticisim for the cart. In fact most of the geometry I over my head. If a guy was obsessing, starving his kids, not getting things he really did need than, didn't already have plenty of 11R or other more common tools than I would probably think different.
 

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I only have about half a brain anyway. I can come to the general point of a spread sheet, read a coule charts if they are simple enuf and wire a 3 way if I got a picture but for the most part we would still be walking if it was up to me to figure out some of the things a real engineer can.
 
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